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Posted: 12 years ago
#31
All show me yahi dikhata hai...😲 some super hit show me Big City & Big Hero... ki yahi story hai main Hero apni main heroin ko jo wife hai usko big Party me sabke samne tomuch insult karta hai & apne all friend's ko Saraab dene ko kahta hai & wife deti hai... 😡
then uske baad Super LOVE STORY start...un Cvs ko & Fan's ko kya bologe ??😲 Now is story ki Jodi super HIT & story also...

Junoon me to village ki story hai...so kuch vi dikha sakta hai...
Edited by br200910 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Perhaps they did it because they wanted meera to learn something from that incident
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Really women r always neglected
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -publicenemy-

I actually thought it was a realistic portrayal of such situations. JL's mother shared her point of view, and as far as what I know of some regional cultures in India, this is not an alien perspective, but quite the norm.

Agreed , this is plain truth although unjustified but this is what happens in village I believe also happens in cities also, this mentality is the reason our country is going through the crisis as women are the one who have instilled this mad unreasonable and total rubbish thinking in men that what ever you are doing is OK with us and we will support you which is nothing but total crap.

Meera asked her why she would support a man who hit her and got an answer from the woman. After listening to the woman, who is clearly in an emotional state, then for Meera to expound on the ills of domestic violence in that moment, would have come across as not only patronizing but also judgmental. She is not there to start a woman's lib movement in the village, but for her own reasons. And when a grown woman who has her mental faculties intact is telling you what she believes and to stay out of her business, the last thing she wants is for you to tell her how wrong her beliefs are (whatever your feelings on the issue may be). It was evident that it was not a behavior that Meera condoned, but she knew when to step back and let the woman handle her own relationships.
Again agreed, Meera is educated , smart and city bred and she knows that this thinking is totally wrong but I guess there was no point in fighting with the women who in no way would have listened to her, the husband-equals-God mentality is too deep rooted to change in just one lecture , also JL's mom literally scolded Prithvi and asked him to leave them alone and not interfere in their matters , Now after listening to that who would speak for her , she would have definitively spoken more if she was on a mission to educate women against domestic violence.

For me, the main purpose of the scene appeared to illustrate certain aspects of Prithvi that were unknown to Meera before - as much as Prithvi can be a goonda, there is some code of morality that he follows (in his own way), which likely was a surprise to her (especially given how many times she has cringed from him thinking that he was going to hit her). It may sound like an oxymoron that a man who made a number of attempts on her life would be so against hitting a woman - but they are indeed two different issues (not to argue the point of whether a would-be-murderer or a domestic abuser is better in any sense).
Yes , I also believe that this is what the CVs wanted to show that Prithvi is not as bad as Meera thinks.They wanted to show that Prithvi has some goodness in him where he wants to save women from domestic violence which is totally against what he did with Meera but on his behalf I can say that his actions towards Meera where to save his DT who is every thing to him , this does not in any way imply that I support Prithvi's actions but this is the personality of Prithvi that he will go to any extent to save the people he cares about and what he thinks is right.

I think on the surface level, it's easy to pathologize and demonize all of them for their weaknesses, but for me it seems like the CVs are trying to balance story telling with reality as much as can be accomplished in a 70s style exaggerated love story drama.

Just my two cents.

At the end, I can only say that right idea but wrong implementation, they wanted to show significance of marriage to mithvi , they could have shown a couple who are in desperate times but still are sticking together as they are married.

My two cents, thanks for reading


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well yes I too dint agree with the whole concept of women should take any crap from men ... I guess CVs wanted to mainly show the scene from Prithvi-Meera POV and make Meera realise the difference between Prithvi and other men of the village ...

Prithvi might hv once tried to kill Meera when she was just his enemy .. but after he marries her even if its out of force , he will never really physically harm her like these men and this is what Meera realised from the whole scenario the way Prithvi dealt with the issue ...

Coming to that woman .. its a bad example shown .. I agree .. but the piont is its a harsh reality of our society and its still the same .. Indian wives in most cases take all the abuse from her hubby and still live with it .. nothing is really changed in India ... to bring the change , we should first change our thought process and stop believing in pati parmeshwar concept ... I believe makers might show the change later on starting from Mithvi relationship itself which might set an example for rest of the villagers but to show this change , first they got to highlight the regressive mentality of our society so that when the change is finally shown , it looks believable ...🤔
Edited by jyoti06 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Agreed , this is plain truth although unjustified but this is what happens in village I believe also happens in cities also, this mentality is the reason our country is going through the crisis as women are the one who have instilled this mad unreasonable and total rubbish thinking in men that what ever you are doing is OK with us and we will support you which is nothing but total crap.

Agree, showing such things encourages people to think that its ok to believe such notions. When the CVs can't curb such archaic beliefs from a TV, shouldn't they be encouraging such belief? I don't think so.

Again agreed, Meera is educated , smart and city bred and she knows that this thinking is totally wrong but I guess there was no point in fighting with the women who in no way would have listened to her, the husband-equals-God mentality is too deep rooted to change in just one lecture , also JL's mom literally scolded Prithvi and asked him to leave them alone and not interfere in their matters , Now after listening to that who would speak for her , she would have definitively spoken more if she was on a mission to educate women against domestic violence.

Mithvi can't strongly oppose to JL's mom when she can easily accuse them abt being the kettle calling the pot black. Mithvi aren't a golden couple that they can go around giving lectures on relationship & stuff. Then again if you take out the sex of the person from what Prithvi & JL's dad did, they stand on equal grounds JL's dad would have been drunk & beaten his wife & wouldn't even remember the incidence later on. Instead of beating the JL's dad Prithvi could have dragged him to pancahyat & got justice for JL's mom & this could have been an example for the rest of the villagers. Isn't the correct message sent across this way? In the beginning of the show Prithvi made one person do uthak-baithak & repeat every time that he would not beat his wife, which was better than what they showed yesterday.

Yes , I also believe that this is what the CVs wanted to show that Prithvi is not as bad as Meera thinks.They wanted to show that Prithvi has some goodness in him where he wants to save women from domestic violence which is totally against what he did with Meera but on his behalf I can say that his actions towards Meera where to save his DT who is every thing to him , this does not in any way imply that I support Prithvi's actions but this is the personality of Prithvi that he will go to any extent to save the people he cares about and what he thinks is right.

Prithvi's actions are debatable, I don't get how he is rough with Meera & such a gentleman with other women in the village 😕

At the end, I can only say that right idea but wrong implementation, they wanted to show significance of marriage to mithvi , they could have shown a couple who are in desperate times but still are sticking together as they are married.

My two cents, thanks for reading

So true, the scene could have scripted in a different manner where the message coming out wasn't so distorted
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: br200910

All show me yahi dikhata hai...😲 some super hit show me Big City & Big Hero... ki yahi story hai main Hero apni main heroin ko jo wife hai usko big Party me sabke samne tomuch insult karta hai & apne all friend's ko Saraab dene ko kahta hai & wife deti hai... 😡

then uske baad Super LOVE STORY start...un Cvs ko & Fan's ko kya bologe ??😲 Now is story ki Jodi super HIT & story also...

Junoon me to village ki story hai...so kuch vi dikha sakta hai...


Total agree...😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: LadyMacbeth

Agree with you 300% , CVs are really lackking creativity and showing craps like that . Every word spoken by Jeevanlal's mom is a straight insult to womanhood .
The problem is with the Indian mass viewers you know , they are gulping all bullshits like that happily .



Haha, I was wondering how the female who acts as Jeevanlal's mother even SAID those dialogues!

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