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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for the update Harshu.

I feel bad for Jodha and Jalal in this track. Both are victims in their own way.
Jodha because, as a woman to be questioned by her husband in this way and then to have rumors flying around a harem which is more like a girls hostel, about her chastity would be a horrible experience for not only a 16th century Rajput woman but even a 21st century woman.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be to come out of such a thing and start over normally.

Jalal: Apart from the intensely personal nature of this issue, he is also the Emperor. An Emperor being taken for a ride by his wife is no joking matter. His pain was two fold.

1)He thinks that Jodha, someone who he has very strong feelings for has betrayed him. She prefers someone else to him.
2)A begum has fooled the Shahenshah. This one has wider, more public implications on the image of the Emperor. This is in no way acceptable.
So he has to keep this under wraps.

As for why no one else realized what was obvious to MA. I think people generally see what they want to see.
HB, Sb and the other ladies (not Ruks) want to see Jo and Jalal together and they are just happy about the fact that Jo is pregnant.
Now MA is a different story. She is a rat always sniffing for cheese in the form of anything that can pull Jo down.
So while others are basking in the good news of the long awaited heir, MA is busy scrutinising Jalal and Jodha trying to detect something that can help her achieve her ultimate goal.

Jalal's sword practice was the highlight of the episode.


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: devkidmd

Thanks for the update Harshu.


I feel bad for Jodha and Jalal in this track. Both are victims in their own way.
Jodha because, as a woman to be questioned by her husband in this way and then to have rumors flying around a harem which is more like a girls hostel, about her chastity would be a horrible experience for not only a 16th century Rajput woman but even a 21st century woman.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be to come out of such a thing and start over normally.

Jalal: Apart from the intensely personal nature of this issue, he is also the Emperor. An Emperor being taken for a ride by his wife is no joking matter. His pain was two fold.

1)He thinks that Jodha, someone who he has very strong feelings for has betrayed him. She prefers someone else to him.
2)A begum has fooled the Shahenshah. This one has wider, more public implications on the image of the Emperor. This is in no way acceptable.
So he has to keep this under wraps.

As for why no one else realized what was obvious to MA. I think people generally see what they want to see.
HB, Sb and the other ladies (not Ruks) want to see Jo and Jalal together and they are just happy about the fact that Jo is pregnant.
Now MA is a different story. She is a rat always sniffing for cheese in the form of anything that can pull Jo down.
So while others are basking in the good news of the long awaited heir, MA is busy scrutinising Jalal and Jodha trying to detect something that can help her achieve her ultimate goal.

Jalal's sword practice was the highlight of the episode.



Some people don't like this track but as your thoughtful post proves this track has many components working in tandem humming under the hood of it's engine. So while the outside appearance may not be so nice, there are many interesting things on closer reflection.

1 Both Jodha and Jalal are in a nightmare situation. You have perfectly encapsulated the reasons why it is so for Jalal.
2 Perfect reasoning why nobody has noticed Jodha and Jalal's obvious unhappiness. You see what you want to see.

The 'rat sniffing for a cheese' is just apt for the situation.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is a very nice review. You have covered all the important points.

Regarding 'smile on lips' in Jashn scene, it was obvious that it looked forced. Rajat enacted this aspect superbly. As Devki has said in her thought provoking post, we see what we want to see.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra

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Thanks Harshu enjoyed your reading.


Today episode again nice ;or side effects comings to start now.This surprise for me after listening jodha is pregnant too much celebration in Agra. Means very soon they start celebration😊

Or both AKdha giving eachother Tough expression. Maham egal eyes noticed this or this sure not favorable for Agra sad this seeing one person weakness Maham started to think downing jodha.its sad if Cause of own benifit everyone start to do cheating with king or now this time jodha included.

But i liked that scene when Akdha both standing under holy Chader ,& praying which was precious that prayer God choosed both of them becoming parents.maybee we know this fake track but prayer words were very vibrated.so how nice to becomeing parents in life. But we know both couple this time irritating jone so anger which coming that time to time comes in blasting jone.


Akdha scene full blasting jone Jalal who managing last days or controling his anger today limit finished or he reached to ask jodha who is child father. He is right on his place this also his dignity ques.jodha surprised.or naturally her anger will blast. Or same happened.but which way jodha stop jalal showing finger that marvelous.her eyes hidden truh was spoking.suddenely jalal schoks.but he own confirmed about own.actually if Hakkim clears then person assures which she saying right.but which way he shouted or warned jodha if you too much sure i will check who is cheated me.its again shameful for jodha.so she is falling own her eyes. Its very personal + delicate point. Which both facing or bearing very sensitive movement's.Maham listens all.


I think 16 cen wood was less so no doors in Agra.but Amer fort doors is Agra people allergy from wood.anyways.😆 😆


Jodha MOti talk was again nice+ Acc to situation but jodhu life really a good friend cum dassi who always stood for jodha so clap for moti who all life devoted to jodha no personal life her.but jodha is right its very painful & shameful if husband own asks who is father of child.so realtionship standing own clay wall.little wave comes or all flows.if we see practically how much big plan did by cheaters.they direct hited this time king dignity + begum character. SO Maham this time investigatied Own this matter .but surprise will this time Maham c.i.d department going to fail.

so in Agra big chess players.i think cause of all time cheating plannings They can't sleep at night.so Pagalkhana made in Agra😊

liked Hb looking after jodha her she giving jodha some tips + chewing tab Thank God chewing tabs shop. in Agra😆


.but Maham plan is big.or cause of hating jodha she will going to make big issu this problem.but who digs holes for others own fall that holes.now maham will get jhatKa because salima will play big role to manage this. So track is going to move next jone salima seen some in kitchen or precap is interesting.jalal brain will going to active or we will watch to see good episodes.

prcap Tarju scene, great Blance will come now.😊

Maham words Amer kee mitti badi pakki or par hum bhee aag hee.😆 par Maham you not know Jodha, usmee bhee bada Tapp hai😃

song movie Ghatana song from both akdha point of view;😊



hazaar baatein kahe zamaana meri vafa pe yaqin rakhana - 2
har ek ada mein mein hai begunaahi meri ada pe yaqin rakhana
hazaar baatein kahe

meri mohabbat ki zindagi ko nazar na lag jaaye is jahaan ki - 2
yahi sada hai dhadakate dil ki meri sada pe yaqin rakhana
hazaar baatein kahe

kisi ko hansata na dekh paaye ajib shai hai ye bairi duniya - 2
ye bemuravvat hai bevafa hai na bevafa pe yaqin rakhana
hazaar baatein kahe

nazar mein rahana hai kushanasibi nazar se girana hai behayaayi - 2
haya hai aurat ka ek gahana meri haya pe yaqin rakhana
hazaar baatein kahe


Thank you for another interesting analysis. Several noteworthy points
1 I liked your description of the chadar scene. It was serene.
2 The 'allergy from wood' comment is very funny
3 The Jalal Jodha scene was nicely described. Very embarassing and shameful for both.
4 Jodha Moti scene was emotional. You said right, first time Maham CID will fail.
5 Your funny comments keep on coming making me smile, 'Tobacco shop in Agra', cheating, planning so 'Pagalkhana in Agra'
6 Perfect song for situation
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Posted: 9 years ago
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good epi missing jodhaakbar alot missing parijat rare great couple they compliment eachother well loved the conforntation part great acting by pari good expression and dilogue dleivery and she was looking perfect beuaty its treat to watch pari
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: RamSiyaRam

Nice update Harshu and you are right the confrontation was the highlight today. I also liked Jodha inner turmoil with Moti about Jalal making the horrifying allegation that she had extra marital relationship.


The jashn was okayish, low budget as usual😆😆. Jalal and Jodha both undergoing anger and pain. Jalal remembering hakima's words of Jodha's pregnancy and Jodha at Jalal's words of spending the night and both are feeling betrayal.

The moulvi blessing scene was more painful for Jodha than Jalal as she had to thank God for choosing her and secondly it put forth the different religion. Paridhi was so good in expressing the pain of saying it. The hand holding is always good😆😆. Somehow no one is able to make out the discomfort except Maham😆😆 who hates Jodha!!

The confrontation was well enacted by Rajat and Paridhi.
Jalal accusing her of cheating and Jodha feeling disgusted and defending her honor. Jalal is fuming and ques Jodha who is the father? Horrified Jodha replies the ques does not make sense as he broke his promise. Jalal retorts he never broke the promise and since he did not touch her so the child is not his. This hurts Jodha dignity and she blasts off saying he has NO right to malign her honor, she is rajvanshi and despite not accepting the marriage and him as her husband, she still upholds the moral values and having relationship with another man is out of ques when she wont even allow someone to touch her shadow. Hence his allegation is horrifying and baseless. Jodha tells him she does not know what happened during the stormy night for which he is accountable and all other times she knows where she was. Jalal replies he only knows about that night and will find out about other days and nights of hers.

Here the anger of both is right in their own places but the thing lacking is trust. Still Jalal knowing Jodha should understand that she has high moral values and she cannot do such an act. He should not have made such a horrifying allegation knowing very well that such an act in those times meant death punishment to the woman. Jodha being a woman of honor would never stoop to this level.

Maham eavesdropping😆😆 what else did they reduce the wazir e aliya to do? listening to private conversation of shehenshah and begum?😆
Now I get it why they killed Bairam khan as he would not be able to do all this🤣 Later on Ruq also used to do all this😆😆 The Begum e Khas and bachpan ki dost
🤣 🤣 Chup chup ke chup chup ke chori se chori ... dekhna and baate sunna😒😆😆 aur phir evil plotting😈


And Maham plots😈 to cause disrepute to the begum who can be killed for this. Still she goes ahead and tells resham to spread the word in harem. On one hand she wants Adham to rule over and on another she is involved in such disgusting stuff.

Now comes the most heart wrenching part where Jodha shares her agony with Moti. How her husband made a horrifying allegation on her and questioning her dignity and honor. She tells her rajput women commit jauhar when their husbands' die in war so that the enemy cannot touch their body and here how can Jalal her husband even think that she would have an affair with some other man? His allegation breaks her apart and she does not want to live anymore. She is completely disheartened. Paridhi was brilliant in this scene.
Adding here Moti was first time ever good in consoling Jodha.

Moti in kitchen to take milk for Jodha and Salim their for Rahim. Salima senses someone in the kitchen and tastes Jodha's milk too. I think Salima gets similar symptoms🤔

We know it was Bakshi but it did not make sense for her to do all this. Jodha had always been nice to her and cared for her. Bakshi stupid actions can create havoc in Jodha's life to the extent that she may lose her life. This was simply irresponsible and somewhat cruel behavior.

Tom- The all famous" Tarazu" enters 😆😆 and Maham's evil plotting works.




Thank you for this excellent write-up, with every scene described perfectly.
Edited by Charu.S - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Superb acting by akdha. the words which maulvi made them repeat should have been shown again when jodha was really pregnant coz they would have repeated it with so much love. but alas as you all know cv's were more concerned with ruqu puran and leap 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Harshu, thank you for sharing an A1 analysis of an episode resonating with the sound and fury of two helpless royals who are accusing each other of infidelity and deceit, completely unaware of the fact that it is their own family that has played a treacherous game with them.

Jodha's reaction when Jalal accuses her of being pregnant as a result of a liaison with another man, is in my opinion, the most outstanding scene in the episode. Her reaction by pointing a finger at him and telling him, 'you may be the Shehenshah, but I'm a Rajvanshi too, and you have no right to deem me unfaithful and cast aspersions on my character. A Rajvanshi wife will not allow a stranger to even gain access to her shadow, leave alone her body.', is outstanding.

Her fierce rebuttal to his accusation, will have an effect on the Shehehshah, which we will see later.

Paridhi has portrayed the angst, anger at being accused by her own husband and feelings of betrayal, brilliantly..

Rajat has done complete justice to the role of an embittered emperor who is showing immense restraint in his emotions, during this testing phase. He goes through the entire Blessing ritual without letting down Jodha publicly, even once, and unleashes his anger on her, only in private.

Earlier on, we saw silent fireworks between Jalal and Jodha, during the Jashn and Blessing session.
Rajat and Paridhi's expressions and voice modulation while thanking God for bestowing them with an heir were nothing short of superb. Both their faces were oozing with resentment and silently accusing each other of deception. What a fine pair they are, complimenting each other in looks and performance.

Master manipulator, conniver and a stockpile of Machiavellian tactics , Mahamanga does complete injustice to the positions of a Badi ammi and Wazir-e-Alia. Badi ammi ---------- indeed ! 😡

It is the graceful and intuitive Salima Begum who will eventually turn out to be Jodha's guardian angel and savior from this disgraceful situation and Shehenshah Jalal deserves full credit in realizing that Jodha is incapable, leave alone guilty of adultery.

Edited by Charu.S - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: devkidmd

Thanks for the update Harshu.


I feel bad for Jodha and Jalal in this track. Both are victims in their own way.
Jodha because, as a woman to be questioned by her husband in this way and then to have rumors flying around a harem which is more like a girls hostel, about her chastity would be a horrible experience for not only a 16th century Rajput woman but even a 21st century woman.
I can only imagine how difficult it must be to come out of such a thing and start over normally.

Jalal: Apart from the intensely personal nature of this issue, he is also the Emperor. An Emperor being taken for a ride by his wife is no joking matter. His pain was two fold.

1)He thinks that Jodha, someone who he has very strong feelings for has betrayed him. She prefers someone else to him.
2)A begum has fooled the Shahenshah. This one has wider, more public implications on the image of the Emperor. This is in no way acceptable.
So he has to keep this under wraps.

As for why no one else realized what was obvious to MA. I think people generally see what they want to see.
HB, Sb and the other ladies (not Ruks) want to see Jo and Jalal together and they are just happy about the fact that Jo is pregnant.
Now MA is a different story. She is a rat always sniffing for cheese in the form of anything that can pull Jo down.
So while others are basking in the good news of the long awaited heir, MA is busy scrutinising Jalal and Jodha trying to detect something that can help her achieve her ultimate goal.

Jalal's sword practice was the highlight of the episode.




Devki,

Each and every point of yours is bang on. PS and RT have lived their respective roles and made the NR completely realistic and believable.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Nice review Harshu😊
Scene of the day is Jalal confronting Jodha⭐️.He barges into her room saying takhliya and directly starts off with the ghrinith prashn that had been haunting him.

Jodha was shocked with such question, out of the blue, from her very own husband.It only added to her existent agony and disgust.

I think for the first and last time,someone had cut Shehanshah-e-Hind by saying bass! and raising a finger😉,what a gutsy woman Jo is!!

RT was excellent here,the way he glares at her finger and his eyes widened at her audacity,but doesn't harm her physically.

Paridhi was brilliant too,she gave life to Jodha,Rajput sherni who doesn't allow anyone including the Emperor, to question/degrade her character.👏

Both these actors complement each other so well and I don't understand why ppl credit the success of show to a single person.

The privilege of rooms with doors was provided only to Shehnaz,Zeenat-Kasim and Atifa😆.This happens only in Agra,anyone can eavesdrop without being caught by the guards.

Jalal and Jodha repeat the lines with the feel of betrayal.This reminded me of their marriage,where Jodha repeats the vachans half-heartedly.The only difference is Jalal is not in a position to enjoy her plight as he is in the same boat,ek hi kashti mein sawaar😉.Again they were publicly spitting fire,giving ample hints to Maham.

Surprisingly,Maham wants to make clear abt the pregnancy with Hakima before she concludes Jo has betrayed Jalal. May be,she believed Jo couldn't do so.

Salima feels someone's presence and tastes the milk,where do you find one begum having so much of concern for the other.Only Jodha and Salima fall under this category.Did anyone in the forum guess the woman in burkha as BB,during the original run?

Next epi is even more interesting,Jalal could feel the truth and honesty of his wife and approaches the right person,sensible Salima Begum for the advice.

Edited by Bindu_nhbr - 9 years ago

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