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Posted: 9 years ago
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My dear Deepa,

This is, without the least doubt, the cutest set of animated faces that I have ever seen. I am still laughing at their synchronised antics with their caps! Thanks a million for liking this post so much, and for unearthing this delightful, ( literally) moving tribute for my delectation!

Your comments are all, as usual, well thought out and thus convincing. But the ones I liked the best are those about the need to embrace change, let the old go and welcome the new, as taught to us by nature during the autumn season, and the characteristically acerbic quotation from George Bernard Shaw. Lovely stuff!

Don't fret about being short of time, and write in when you can and you feel like it.

Shyamala Aunty

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Finally, I have had some me time to visit the forum.

Another splendiferous analysis.
As you have said the Shahi Wedding was definitely a concoction of tantalizing masala. Guess it warranted such a fare given the Aan Baan Shaan of the Rajputs and the Shahi twisted Style of the Mughals.

Yes, it was the splendid Chess tournament and most significant one in the 15th Century. And the game, match and tournament went to one and only Jalal, who etched his foot to proclaim the as "Shahenshah".

It was the most valuable game won by Jalal if events were to be stripped for a more in-depth postmortem analysis. Indeed Jalal was not in romance with Jodha nor with Amer. It was just a political move to infiltrate into Rajputana land.
I call it MBA - Marriage by agreement and not Marriage by accident. Anybody could be a trained warrior, but to be a leader, an Emperor, one in a million is chosen by destiny. And that chosen one at that point was Jalal, whether he knew it not not. But he did portray a more mature role than anyone could have anticipated.

The "Muh Dikhayi" was awesome checkmate by Jalal. Indeed he wanted to show the face and head to that piqued princess who wanted to cut his head. Indeed he is amused to see Jodha face and probably wondered what her thoughts would be to realise that she will have to place the varmala over the same head she wanted slayed.

Agree completely with you regarding the weakness as portrayed by Jodha. She was brave initially for her father the King to do the needful to save the people of the land. But after discovering that her future is going to be bound with her meanest enemy she seems to be bickering like a spoilt child.
And the two sharaths/conditions put forth, she thought she could escape herself and but forgot about the kingdom. This might be her weakness to self preserve her pride. Yes Paridhi did do a splendid act just like Rajat did. It was like the clash of the Titans tainted by the fading color of the dividing curtain. I agree that the movie JA had a better scene at this than the serial.

Maham, her son Adham and Shareefuddin are the Tridev of conspiracy against Jalal. They dig every stone and aim at Jalal. Maham, as you said is probably blaming herself vehemently for cajoling him to take decisions. Yes, her hold on him was slowly slipping away. A slithering snake as she was or she thought she was, trended the most slippery of surfaces. Jalal proved that he could face anything as the Shahenshah no matter what the personal relationship was. Finally he was emerging from the shell reminding me of the essence of an egg. When we break the egg, we kill a life, but when the egg breaks itself it brings out a new life.

Yes, agree that they could have shown more of the Rajasthani wedding rituals than fill in the gap wala epidsodes. I did read long long back about the custom of the mangalsutra. It was not part of every wedding ritual. But the sindoor, vows and the saat phere in the presence of elements of nature (fire,earth, water, air and aakash) are. So I was not surprised when the lagaam/mangalsutra was not included.

The wedding itself was splendid the costumes and aerial shots as you mentioned was needed and made it grand.
Yes the ending was amusing with the shoe hiding custom.

All I could think without forseeing the future is Marriage is an institution. Seeing Jalal's eagerness to taunt Jodha's false pride and Jodha's stance to face it per her conditions, reminded me of
the following saying.
"When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition continuously until death do them part." George Bernard Shaw.

Yes it looked like the season for fashion. The fashion for passion. But the passion was concocted not out of love but out of insanity for one to tame another's false pride and the other to punish the enemy who had tainted the holy land.
Again as I mentioned it was the clash of the titans. I have discounted all the bickering and nagging and all the extra acts by extra actors that did not add any value but eat away prime time for viewers to view some superb performances by Rajat and Paridhi.

Last but not the least, it left this thought in my mind yesterday, as I walked along with my son in the local woods. Lessons need to be learnt from the past and the present. And where else to learn it from than mother nature, as I watched the autumn turning leaves to bright orange and yellow, showing us how lovely it is to let the dead things or old things go and embrace the change.

Loved reading your other posts too. Sorry aunty short of time. So will try to post my thoughts whenever I can.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Shyamala, have not been able to respond to your earlier 2 posts as I've been at a conference at Oxford for the last 5 days and got back last night. I'll say thanks to @harrybird for the 3 episodes posted here as I missed then (again).
As for Akbar's rajputana policy, a lot has been written by many historians yet I'll add my 2-bit too. Akbar was an astute judge of human psychology and knowing what he did about the Rajput aan baan and shaan he offered matrimonial alliance to each of the major ones as a means of them preserving their dignity and as a means of them and through them the rest of Hindu Hindustan that Akbar was not into stamping out their beliefs, nor a bigot. Of the main Rajput principalities that joined him, only the Hada Rajputs actively refused an alliance and interestingly Akbar never insisted - so much for calling him a womanizer - also had a Hada princess married him, she would have to be given a higher status than the Ameri princess and Hadas a higher status than the Ameris - seems Akbar himself was not interested in doing so and this was before Jodha gave birth to Salim.


Also my set of Ponniyin Selvan in English arrived last week and I will start reading the set from tonight.


And currently responding from phone so am sorry if I sound abrupt. Am not that tech savvy yet😉
Edited by adiana12 - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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My dear Kalgi,

I am so pleased that you liked this one so much. And yes, the Tom and Jerry games are about to start, and will last for quite a while. We will all have a lot of fun with them the second time around, won't we?

And yes, Maham has the eyes of a lynx and the perceptiveness to match!

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by: Kalgi22

Simply WOW!👏👏👏 Completely enjoyed the all dramas and grand wedding through your wrings and totally loved it. Silent gestures and assurance between Mainavathy and her new son-in-law is such a delight to watch. ❤️ Of course a great start of TOM & JERRY games between Jalal and Jodha😆 Which is more tempting and delight to watch and read too😃

In this show I always admire intelligence of Maham Anga a mere wet-nurse over the Mugal or Rajput's queens and princess. 😆 She had noted that something is different about Jalal for his Rajput Begum😉

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you for writing in, Adiana, and also for that neat take on Akbar's policy towards the Rajputs.

It is also interesting that the Rajputs who received the offers of a matrimonial alliance from him saw it as a plus, and as an assurance of his inclusive and tolerant policies, and did not jib at the very idea as demeaning, the way Kunwar Pratap does.

As for his wanting to avoid the protocol problems if he had married a Hada princess, you had written about this before, and I remember it clearly, as it such a convincing argument!

And no, you do not sound abrupt at all!

Enjoy your latest tryst with Ponniyin Selvan!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: adiana12

Hi Shyamala, have not been able to respond to your earlier 2 posts as I've been at a conference at Oxford for the last 5 days and got back last night. I'll say thanks to @harrybird for the 3 episodes posted here as I missed then (again).

As for Akbar's rajputana policy, a lot has been written by many historians yet I'll add my 2-bit too. Akbar was an astute judge of human psychology and knowing what he did about the Rajput aan baan and shaan he offered matrimonial alliance to each of the major ones as a means of them preserving their dignity and as a means of them and through them the rest of Hindu Hindustan that Akbar was not into stamping out their beliefs, nor a bigot. Of the main Rajput principalities that joined him, only the Hada Rajputs actively refused an alliance and interestingly Akbar never insisted - so much for calling him a womanizer - also had a Hada princess married him, she would have to be given a higher status than the Ameri princess and Hadas a higher status than the Ameris - seems Akbar himself was not interested in doing so and this was before Jodha gave birth to Salim.

Also my set of Ponniyin Selvan in English arrived last week and I will start reading the set from tonight.

And currently responding from phone so am sorry if I sound abrupt. Am not that tech savvy yet😉

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank you so much, my dearest Anjali, for this very timely collage! As you will see if you revisit my post, I have borrowed two of these photos to illustrate my text!

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anjali you clever child,

I am continually amazed by the illustrations you dig out of God knows where, which fit in so well with your comments!Thank a ton, my dear and bravo!

Take all the time you need to clear your arrears!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: harrybird

WOW...WOW..& SIMPLY WOW !

What can I say Aunty...except that... you deserve a standing ovation for this Brilliant Post !!!

👏 👏 👏



PS: Kindly grant me 2 days leave...oops...time to clear my arrears ! 😃

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Posted: 9 years ago
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My dear Zhanna,

Your comments are often so much to the point that they delight me. This time it is the last para. Yes, Jalal is always, for all his loudly proclaimed hatred for Jodha and his desire to take revenge for her many slights, secretly craving for her to like him, care for him and what happens to him. I have written about this very often in the past, and I will undoubtedly do so again as we proceed.

Jodha was born on October 1, 1542, whereas Jalal was born on October 15, 1542. So she was 2 weeks older than he was, and he was 19 1/2 at the time of their marriage on February 6, 1562. So was she. In those days, 19 1/2 was past the age of mental and emotional maturity for a woman. She would usually have been married off 2/3 years earlier, might have had a child, and was expected to play her part in her husband's family. All the more so for a princess. So the argument that she was young and should thus be excused for her behaviour would not be really valid.

Your comparison of Jodha to Pollyanna is very apt.

Shyamala Di

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Dear Shyamala Di! Thank you very much!

I'm flying tonight and write short. I really like the fact that thanks to your excellent analysis, some of the scenes I understand differently. Before, I did not pay attention to the illogic behavior Jodha. You're right, if she decided to save Amer, she need to go to the end. How old was the real Jodha? If 17 years, she does still may be some failures.

There is a wonderful children's book Emily Porter "Pollyanna." There's a girl everyone advises not to despair, and everything will be fine. It seems that it is not very difficult. Untill with her happened a misfortune. And Jodha also get a discrepancy. is one thing to say, "I agree to be the victim," and then be faced with the reality. Maybe the problem is in the fact that the wedding is fast? There is no time to accept this?

It seems to me, despite the gloating, Jalal still wants to get sympathy Jodha or at least one kind look. I always stopped the scene when litlle girls say he is "good and beautiful" and he turns around to Jodha, hoping for some good feedback from her. And there are scenes where Jalal takes a willingness to meet and to be generous and Jodha to show spiritual deafness and stubbornness, and there scenes will be many. :) But she is has reason to "rest on all four paws."

Edited by sashashyam - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Kalgi,

I am so pleased that you liked this one so much. And yes, the Tom and Jerry games are about to start, and will last for quite a while. We will all have a lot of fun with them the second time around, won't we?

And yes, Maham has the eyes of a lynx and the perceptiveness to match!

Shyamala Aunty



No doubt at all😃
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shyamala Aunty, this is a marvellous post.👏 One, that has to be read a couple of times to get to the depth of it.I am short of words to add something to it and need some time to collect my words. Hence, I would be giving my comments in three parts.
Episode 34:

I agree with you that it had all the masala one could ask for. The muh dikhayi was lavishly presented, befitting the to-be royal couple.😳
The Jalal-Maan Singh encounter was nicely scripted and gave a glimpse of their future bonding.He clearly is fascinated by the fearless-ness of Maan Singh. His smile as he remembers Jodha was good too. Jodha is too often in his thoughts these days. 😆
Jalal and Mainavati did seem to converse non-verbally. Jalal's gentleness with Mainavati acted as a reassurance to her. And, rather as a surprise to Maham Anga.Yes, his acceptance of the Rajput customs has a very long way to go in terms of his spiritual evolution.
Now, coming to the Muh dikhayi. It was beautiful i must say. The flashbacks of the gangaur scene were also shown. The wind blowing at the exact time was a bit dramatic; but when it comes to my AkDha, every dramatic thing seems to me the most natural or rather, romantic.😳😆 Jodha looked wonderful in that outfit and her reaction on seeing Jalal were also perfectly displayed by Paridhi. Jalal's reaction was one of victory, and his knowing smile when she runs away, was also perfect.
As for Maham Anga, she seems much irritated to me these days. Maybe due to the lessening of her control on Jalal.
And coming to Jodha, determination is something she'll need the most from now on. She has to be a princess now.

Edited by -AkDha.Lover- - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Weddings are to be savoured emotionally. Beautiful writing on the exteriors and the intrinsic meanings.

You have done much more than what even the Director would have wanted to visually portray.

A good wedding ritual is a feast to the eyes, especially when the groom is THIS handsome with so much imperialism. 😉

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