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Posted: 10 years ago
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Your wicked little imp,

I do not know for what the hug I am going to give you🤗 should be bigger: for the cats, which never fail to delight me, or for your masaledaar comments. Both, I guess. And no, you cannot ever really drive me mad, for I am too fond of you!

As for your libellous crack about the Roohon ki baatein😉, this was very early on and the writing team for Jodha Akbar was top class. Even if they had not heard of the Mirror of Erised, they must have meant what I deduced, for if not, why that line for Jalal at all?

I simply never understand HOW you put together such mind-blowing collages. You rock, kid!👏

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Shyamala, I am happy that you have accepted my request and posted your valuable insights on this forum.

I will of course give my own opinion in a little while but before that I have a request. This is for the folks who come to this thread. If you are enjoying the repeats as much as I am, you must also enjoy these gems by Shyamala of insights into the motivations and behaviors of the characters.

Now is not the time to be shy. If you like what you read, you must comment. The ending of the serial has already depleted our ranks, so just clicking on the 'Like' button is not an option. Please, if you want this outstanding series of posts to continue, you must comment. It is just for a few months, let us enjoy this short journey. I guarantee you, whatever next serial you migrate to, the chances of finding a writer of Shyamala's ability is close to Zero, appreciate it now, while you can.

Thanks for understanding.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh, my dear Donjas, whatever would I do without you? Thank you, thank you, thank you, both for liking my writing so much, and even more so for motivating the readers to participate actively in discussions on this and the other threads of mine.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: Donjas

Shyamala, I am happy that you have accepted my request and posted your valuable insights on this forum.


I will of course give my own opinion in a little while but before that I have a request. This is for the folks who come to this thread. If you are enjoying the repeats as much as I am, you must also enjoy these gems by Shyamala of insights into the motivations and behaviors of the characters.

Now is not the time to be shy. If you like what you read, you must comment. The ending of the serial has already depleted our ranks, so just clicking on the 'Like' button is not an option. Please, if you want this outstanding series of posts to continue, you must comment. It is just for a few months, let us enjoy this short journey. I guarantee you, whatever next serial you migrate to, the chances of finding a writer of Shyamala's ability is close to Zero, appreciate it now, while you can.

Thanks for understanding.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam


Roohon ki baatein: The voices were softer than at any other time in such scenes shown later, and Jalal's was almost unrecognizably gentle. His Jodha, without the Begum, pleased me inordinately, as also that, in a charming contrast with his irritating habit later, he does not add Jodha Begum in every sentence he utters, as if he was in danger of forgetting her name!😉

Now where do you suppose this scene in Hamara maqbara ,as Jodha puts it, is situated? The opening line, by Jalal, is Aap yahan, Jodha?, and she responds Aapko dekhne aayi hoon! Which would put it at Sikandra, Akbar's mausoleum, which seems to be in remarkably good shape, and not in Jodha's 1 km or so away.

Aap yahan, Jodha...reminded me of Jodhas's oft repeated 'aap yahan, is samay...'🤣


There is a lovely, throwaway line from Jalal next, Tum to khudh ko aaine mein dekh rahi ho! It has deep, romantic implications, for she has come to see him, but now she looks in her mirror. Where she sees, not herself, but him, for he is part of her, indeed more. He is woven into the warp and woof of her being, and as Harry Potter when he looks into the Mirror of Erised, Jodha looks into heraaina, and she sees her heart's deepest desire, Jalal. It is an intensely moving line, but I wonder how many who watched it really grasped its true significance.

😕Not me..😕

But having seen their future, EK style, EK's Jodha would have seen Jalal praising her hunars and obeying her whims and following her maargdarshans in the Mirror of Erised, if she did indeed happened to peep into one.😡


The Jalal as Jallad ranting: But then Jalal has to be shown cutting down foes right and left instead of embracing them with daya aur prem. For Om Puri is here bent on asserting that Jalal is a beraham yoddha, a bloodthirsty zaalim aur vaishi ( the CVs apparently forgot to add darinda!😉) and that his shamsheer ne khoon ka swaad chaka, as though the shamsheers of all the warriors seen in Hindustan till then were raised on a milk diet. 😡

🤣


However, since at this point the brooding young Murad-to-be, perched on a huge pedestal in the middle of nowhere like a statue, had been replaced by apna Rajat, with his handsome face and arrogant sneer, no one, at least none of the ladies, would have lent an ear to what Puri was babbling😆. Which would have been all for the best!😉

Of course. We have tolerated worse for Rajat. Haven't we?😉

Bairam Khan: Naved Aslam is an excellent actor. As he intones:

Tum soorma ho Jalal.. Fateh karna tumhara mazhab... Yeh shamsheer tumhari baandi.. Sultanat tumhari chahat...Beraham khauff tumhari shoharat..Fateh kar lo is mulq ko! ,

he almost gave me goose pimples. Even the yoddha ke seene mein dil nahin hota mantra,which makes its debut here, could not irritate me! Bairam Khan's narrow face, with its deep-set, lambent eyes, is imbued with one fierce and unwavering obsession, Mughal rule over all of Hindustan, thru fear and force. He is wrong, of course, for no land this vast can be ruled for long by fear and force, but if it was a failing, it was in its way a magnificent one!

Naved Aslam was excellent as BK. So was the entire initial cast - Maham Anga, AK, Shariffu, Sujamal. They were all better than in the movie The only sore misfit was the choice for Salim.

And the young Jalal matches him well, which is no easy feat, especially in the scene where his Khan Baba blotches the map of Rajasthan with his blood. Obviously they had no fear ofsepticaemia in those days!😉

🤣.

Kabootar aa, aa, aa: This part was as ludicrous the second time around as it was at the first showing. But how on earth does Jodha, who is clearly a female, 16th century version of Usain Bolt, follow the fall trajectory of the wounded pigeon? And then, when she releases it, it takes off as if it was not in the least hurt!😉

Btw, why did she come all the way running to catch the kabootar...only to let it fly again? Or did the bird fall at such a wide trajectory that she ran across the entire palace and could catch it still...

Not that Jalaluddin Muhammad, with his trademark half sneer, seems at all bothered by such matters right now!

😳

Shyamala/Aunty/Akka/Di


Good Lord. Seems like we are back by a year and a half, with the regular analysis and discussions...8 more to go...😃
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Posted: 10 years ago
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awesome post
thanks for this thread
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Posted: 10 years ago
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My dear,

I am very pleased that you liked this post so much and wrote in to tell me so. I would be even more pleased if, this Saturday evening or tomorrow Sunday, you could find the time to read the other seven posts, Like them if you find them interesting, and comment on at least some of them.

My next, for Episodes 11&12, is due out on Sunday, and from then on, I hope to be posting bi- weekly, on Thursdays and Sundays. I shall PM you when I am putting them out, and I look forward to having you with me on those threads as well.

Shyamala (Aunty? I am 60+)

Originally posted by: .AKDHASWARA.

awesome post

thanks for this thread

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Isn't it fun, my pet? I plan to do them as if I was once more at the beginning, without any of the foreknowledge that comes with a second viewing, and so for me the magic of Jodha's aaina is intact. You should also try and keep it that way, for the payal and other scenes to follow!

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by Sandhya.A


Good Lord. Seems like we are back by a year and a half, with the regular analysis and discussions...8 more to go...😃

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A


Good Lord. Seems like we are back by a year and a half, with the regular analysis and discussions...8 more to go...😃

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Posted: 10 years ago
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beautiful review with superb description .I also like in soft and loving voice he call her only jodha. their entire convo. on makbara was shawn their deep love.king hamu scan was best shown in movie bk's dialogue was encourage and make him adamant to conquer Hindustan and his soft heart's journey to become heartless and ruthless king. suja -jo bond was very sweet and his gift was very significant.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thank you so much, my dear. I am glad it pleased you so much.

Your comments are very apt. I hope you will be able to read the other posts for Episodes 2 to 12, and perhaps comment on some of them too,

I have just put up the latest, for Episodes 11-12,


Jodha Akbar 11-12: Siyaasat ki jung.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/4457317/jodha-akbar-11-12-siyaasat-ki-jung

I shall be PMing you too, but this is by way of advance intimation!


Shyamala B.Cowsik


Originally posted by: melovesja

beautiful review with superb description .I also like in soft and loving voice he call her only jodha. their entire convo. on makbara was shawn their deep love.king hamu scan was best shown in movie bk's dialogue was encourage and make him adamant to conquer Hindustan and his soft heart's journey to become heartless and ruthless king. suja -jo bond was very sweet and his gift was very significant.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Shyamala ji.. how are your knees now? Glad to see you in full action!! Revisiting Jodha Akbar through your posts is very entertaining and a different experience. I didn't realize the little nuances till I read your takes. I always wonder if the JA director/CVs truly had the same intentions while shooting the scenes which you highlighted like the Ayeena in Makbara scene. The contemplation you put in analyzing the episodes, had the CVs put in 20% of it, JA wouldn't have seen the downfall and a sudden demise. Thank you for all your time, effort and energy. 🤗

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