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Posted: 10 years ago
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Akbar doing double standard here
When Jodha's father Bharamal hide fact of Shivani liking Tejwant and fixed marriage with Hakim Mirza, Akbar gave bashan saying you lied, you cheated blah blah and put poor guy in jail for few days and humiliated him although Bharamal is also king
But now what is he doing? He is forcing Salim by using tactics like sending away anarkali from agra so Salim somehow says yes to wedding by hook or crook. Best part he and Jodha never say Bhagwan Das that Salim loved anarkali and they are forcing him to marry Maan Bai.
Salim shall not say because then anarkali may leave him and go or Akbar may harm her because Salim revealed truth to ameri's. So now who shall reveal truth to Maan bai and Bhagwan das?
Second thing how come Man Singh is so dumb and not know Salim loves Anarkali? does he not stay in agra?
How come rules change when its your family and your kids in love? Should not Akbar tell Bhagwan Das about this matter
If Maan Bai and Bhagwan Das know about Salim loving anarkali still say yes to marriage then their fate. But here its hidden from them.
I think Akbar and his family cheating Ameri's
I think Akbar should have postponed wedding and resolved anarkali issue then went ahead with marriage
Now Maan Bai is biggest loser here why?
What happens if your parents force you to marry someone against your wishes and kill your girl friend?
In 21st century you remove anger on parents and wife and in laws too
In 16th century you cannot remove anger on parents and that too powerful parents like Akbar and jodha, you cannot remove anger on in laws as they are far away in amer. So you shall remove your anger on flopped love on wife only. And here girl shall be killed so more guilt that he loved so she was killed guilt remains all life and shall not go easily.
Thank god atleast here wife is a cousin sister, so not much anger shall be removed but still the anger shall remain all life that because of Maan Bai I lost anarkali for Salim
Whether he removes it on her or keeps it in himself and removes anger on himself by drinking excess and afeem etc is to be seen
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Posted: 10 years ago
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i think he will stay aloof from maan bai
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Exactly..Jodha and Akbar were angry with Bharmal as he didn't reveal Shivani's love matter.
Here Akbar himself is doing this and asked Jodha not to discuss abt Anarkali with Bhagwandas as it hurts them and he can't see them hurt..
Will Maan Bai be happy if she comes to know this later?It would more painful then.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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All double stds throughout serial, they never adhered to there self created stds. First Man Singh was nearly sentenced to enter in harem. Later all courtiers were allowed to enter in Harem . Akbar himself has
Nearly gone up to marrying a girl which came from another harem ,sold in Mandi on beauti bases, with no guarantee of not being used by many b4 . Moreover she danced in provocative dresses before his courtiers , where was his Kingsley approach and protocol at the time?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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HI PREM
BHARMAL ALREADY KNEW THE TRUTH OF SHIVANIS LOVE BUT HE ACCEPTED SHIVANIS MARRIAGE WITH MIRZA BUT JL DINT KNOW AT THE TIME OF ANNOUNCEMENT OF SALIM MAAN MARRIAGE AND JLS MISTAKE WAS THAT HE DINT ENQUIRE SALIMS LOVER IS MAAN OR NOT .IN THIS MATTER SALIM IS AT FAULT WHEN HE DOESNT LOVE MAAN WHY DINT HE SAY NO AT THAT ANNOUNCEMENT DAY AND ATLEAST JO ASKED HIM BUT SALIM DINT TELL THE TRUTH JUST BY SAYING THAT IAM NOT READY FOR MARRIAGE AND HIS PORTRAYAL IN JA IS WHEN SALIM DOESNT LIKE ANY THING HE OPENLY SAYS NO WITH OUT FEAR OF
JL. WHATEVER SALIM SAYS EVERY BODY SHOULD ACCEPT THAT OTHER WISE HE GETS ANGRY AND THINKS THAT THEY DONT LOVE HIM.GIVING HONOUR TO ANAR MARRING ANAR IS NOT WRONG FOR THAT HE WAS READY TO BREAK HIS MARIAGE WITH MAAN IS NOT AT ALL CORRECT AND WHAT IS MAAN FAULT? AND WHAT ABOUT MAAN HONOUR AND FUTURE IN FRONT OF WHOLE HINDUSTAN ? HE IS SO SELFISH IN THIS MATTER
JLS MARRIAGE WITH BEN WAS NOT HIS OWN WISH IT IS RUQ AND MAHAM AND ALSO JL THOUGHT THAT JO WRONGLY ACCUSED HER AS BEN IS A VISH KANYA AND BEN HERSELF ASKED JL TO MARRY HER JL AND JL IMMEDIATELY SAID TO BEN THAT BE IN U R LIMITS.TO REMOVE BEN FROM A BLAMETHAT BEN IS A VISH KANYA AND TO SAVE HER BECAUSE BEN COMMITTED SUICIDE. PLEASE DONT COMPARE THOSE TRACKS WITH PRASENT TRACK AND LOT OF DIFFERENCE IS THERE AND PLEASE WATCH AGAIN THOSE TRACKS U WILL UNDERSTAND

LASTLY THE PROBLEMS FACING IN SALIMS LIFE BECAUSE OFHIS NOT UNDERSTANDING NATURE AND BELIEVING WRONG PEOPLE AND HIS STUBBORNNESS ARE THE MAIN REASONS. THESE R MY VIEWS I AM VERY SORRY IF I HURT U
Edited by srilu321 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Jalal was ready to marry ben because she was blamed by the royal queen aka jodha as a poison girl, and subjects were after her life. Jalal himself didnt want to marry her at all and even told her to be in limits.Its ruqaiya and maham who in full court told jalal that as an emperor he has various reasons to marry someone, and marrying a subject to protect her from lifethreatening situations is one of them ,and its his duty, and the full court agreed on this. And there was no way Jalal would have make benazir anything more than a secondery wife, forget malika e hind. But here Salim has jeoparadized the life of innocent maanbai to claim his love, He wants to make her his first wife, which gives her a lot of power, and even if not first wife, it is pretty clear he will shower titles on her ,make her malika e hind. Jalala's situation was different, he was forced to do his duty to a subject who can be saved only if the emperor marries him, here Salim wants to marry a dancer,and make courtiers and public gassip about this relation, and then make anar malika e hind, but there is no gurantee people will actually respect her. Most will degrade her behind her back.And in case of shivani, Bharmal knew she was in love with a commoner, (here note that a commoner is much more acceptable compared to a dancer. ) , he knew shivani loved someone else when he fixed the relation between mirza and shivani. Other side Jalal didnt know that salim loved anar, he actually thought salim loved maanbai, and wanted to sirprise his son. And now when he gets the truth, the wedding is already fixed, invitations been sent, Maanbai has been announced as the first wife of salim, and now telling the truth cant solve the situation but can only worsen it. And jodha to some extent told bhagwandas about salim's habit of going to brothel, but bhagwandas was very cool about it. And even if he gets to know anar and salim loves each other, he will still want maan to marry salim anyay. Those days, a male had many relations with many women, it didnt matter if salim loves someone else or not, but when it came to girls, they were not allowed to even think of some other man, so a bride being in love with someone else was a bigger issue then. Its unfair, but thats how it was in those days
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Posted: 10 years ago
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hi AKDHAALWAYS
u wrote all points very clearly which i couldnt and i liked u r post. if salim rejects marriage with maan she may end her life but in anar case she very well knew the reality of her relation with salim .and jl has been showing very particular about class from the begining of the show when it comes to marriages.

thank you
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanku Srilu😊I liked your post too. Yes Salim has deliberately betrayed maanbai here, at least he could have told her the truth , she would do the marraige without any expectation. But he was in anar hate mode then and maan became a pawn, I still remember how salim personally went to maan and told her he really likes her and her kind nature and regrets not being able to spend more time with her and maan was in her dreamland. I mean why give the girl hope if you want to crash it. And now he has so smartly planned to cheat maanbai after marraige even before the marraige has taken place !!!!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: srilu321

HI PREM

BHARMAL ALREADY KNEW THE TRUTH OF SHIVANIS LOVE BUT HE ACCEPTED SHIVANIS MARRIAGE WITH MIRZA BUT JL DINT KNOW AT THE TIME OF ANNOUNCEMENT OF SALIM MAAN MARRIAGE AND JLS MISTAKE WAS THAT HE DINT ENQUIRE SALIMS LOVER IS MAAN OR NOT .IN THIS MATTER SALIM IS AT FAULT WHEN HE DOESNT LOVE MAAN WHY DINT HE SAY NO AT THAT ANNOUNCEMENT DAY AND ATLEAST JO ASKED HIM BUT SALIM DINT TELL THE TRUTH JUST BY SAYING THAT IAM NOT READY FOR MARRIAGE AND HIS PORTRAYAL IN JA IS WHEN SALIM DOESNT LIKE ANY THING HE OPENLY SAYS NO WITH OUT FEAR OF
JL. WHATEVER SALIM SAYS EVERY BODY SHOULD ACCEPT THAT OTHER WISE HE GETS ANGRY AND THINKS THAT THEY DONT LOVE HIM.GIVING HONOUR TO ANAR MARRING ANAR IS NOT WRONG FOR THAT HE WAS READY TO BREAK HIS MARIAGE WITH MAAN IS NOT AT ALL CORRECT AND WHAT IS MAAN FAULT? AND WHAT ABOUT MAAN HONOUR AND FUTURE IN FRONT OF WHOLE HINDUSTAN ? HE IS SO SELFISH IN THIS MATTER
JLS MARRIAGE WITH BEN WAS NOT HIS OWN WISH IT IS RUQ AND MAHAM AND ALSO JL THOUGHT THAT JO WRONGLY ACCUSED HER AS BEN IS A VISH KANYA AND BEN HERSELF ASKED JL TO MARRY HER JL AND JL IMMEDIATELY SAID TO BEN THAT BE IN U R LIMITS.TO REMOVE BEN FROM A BLAMETHAT BEN IS A VISH KANYA AND TO SAVE HER BECAUSE BEN COMMITTED SUICIDE. PLEASE DONT COMPARE THOSE TRACKS WITH PRASENT TRACK AND LOT OF DIFFERENCE IS THERE AND PLEASE WATCH AGAIN THOSE TRACKS U WILL UNDERSTAND

LASTLY THE PROBLEMS FACING IN SALIMS LIFE BECAUSE OFHIS NOT UNDERSTANDING NATURE AND BELIEVING WRONG PEOPLE AND HIS STUBBORNNESS ARE THE MAIN REASONS. THESE R MY VIEWS I AM VERY SORRY IF I HURT U

Here I agree that Salim never said he loves anar till last week to jodha or jalal
But he told many times to jodha in shaitanpura when she came and when wedding was announced that he does not want to marry, then at engagement day also he said although he never said reason is anar
Jodha also saw him with anarkali one night their fight, she called anar and enquired later she told moti bai to check and it never went forward
Further jodha had discussed this issue of salim anar case long back with ruq who said she will find out but never did
But indirectly salim had left doubt in jodha's mind every time so why was this not investigated or salim confronted before by jodha or Akbar?
Akbar has from beginning be shown dumb he cannot understand true nature of his family and friends but jodha is shown a bit clever she should have investigated or asked salim before why she was silent for so long?
I think this is done on purpose by cvs, they have been doing it from beginning leaving suspects without never investigation further, be it maham poisoning ruq case, be it adham or sharifuddin case now anarkali case
the problem is Cvs sometimes potray salim as an anti hero and sometimes as the younger jalal who blindly trusted mothers(dai ma here badi ma) but do not trust his own mom and wife etc. So its confusion what is he thinking? Till now he was adamant on marrying anar suddenly he says its ok just meet me after marriage that is enough. If that is enough what was he fighting with his parents for past week? And how come he claims he loves her if she being dancer, cocubbine is Okk, is that not what other kings do? just make women they like cocubbine as they are not royal and cannot get status of their royal wives?
Edited by myviewprem - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: akdhaalways

Thanku Srilu😊I liked your post too. Yes Salim has deliberately betrayed maanbai here, at least he could have told her the truth , she would do the marraige without any expectation. But he was in anar hate mode then and maan became a pawn, I still remember how salim personally went to maan and told her he really likes her and her kind nature and regrets not being able to spend more time with her and maan was in her dreamland. I mean why give the girl hope if you want to crash it. And now he has so smartly planned to cheat maanbai after marraige even before the marraige has taken place !!!!

If salim married only one girl like 21st century then its cheating but he had 25 wives so with every new wife it means he was cheating the past ones. In polygamy it is given man marries many but loves one or two only or only two three get all prominence and power and love too.
With Akbar it was Ruqaiah, Salima, Jodha, Daulat Shad etc with jehangir it was Maan Bai, Jagat Gosian and Nur Jahan with Shah Jahan it was Mumtaz etc
Since majority are arranged marriages for political reasons without caring for approval of groom or bride the idea of cheating never arises like in 21st century where only wife or husband is norm
Again in 21st century many people have girl friends or boy friends and love them too but may get married for various reasons to another. Many do not reveal this to their spouse of their love affairs not to cheat their partners because to maintain peace in family life. But having affair after marriage is cheating in 21st century. In 16th century where commoners themselves had many wives the concept of loyalty was different.
Shah Jahan loved mumtaz was engaged to her at 14 years but before marrying her at 19 years he married 4 more women, he married more women after marrying Mumtaz, had cocubbines too as that was a tradition. Did that mean he cheated Mumtaz not really, that was norm of those times?
If Salim does not tell Maan of anarkali after marriage it is cheating by 21st century standards not 16th century in reality. But all know that this affair shall not continue to after marriage as Salim shall revolt and anarkali shall be killed or sent off.
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