Jodha Akbar 20th April 2015..Jodha Refuses 2 convert. ANALYSIS on PG-1 - Page 5

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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Rasika29


Agree with you 100% Sindhu...
When we take the facts and the new promo...even with the ping-pong characters of JJ, promo can't be true...just something to grab the eyeballs...

so just chill...drama toh hoga hi...😃


It is just pure NR, minus any history, just like the Jodha conversion drama. Maybe it is Jalal's idea to make HB realize her mistake or maybe even to mislead the Shah of Iran before war.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: torontolida



JALAL IS GIVING TALAAQ TO JODHA,now i am really pissed offAngry ,jodha is better without jalal.i hate him, i hope jodha leave him forever. no i hope jodha never forgive him this time enough is enough, no he is not planing anything he is stupid and he is good for ruka only only khabar loved jodha with all his heart ,i wish he was alive and took jodha away from this crazy jalal. what kind of love he has for jodha that he is already to give her talaaq its a big thing. he said it 3 times already ,so this means he will and other woman will enter ,yuk i had enough have been watching this show since june 2013 i never missed any part of reason i love jodha too much only for her i am watching this show first thing i come home from work i watch it and i will not take if this happen to my jodha.


Hmmm...for me the promo sounds like Atifa track repetition...aanndd indeed Jalal is a wierd, cause of that Jodha loved him...so calm down to response the promo.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Guys i think there can b only two ways the promo can go. Either jalal is doing this to mislead HB m make her realize her mistake or it could b that while he is at the war khema someone gives him wrong info on jodhas conversion n his anger he ends up giving her divorce n repenting later. What do u guys think?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Guys i think there can b only two ways the promo can go. Either jalal is doing this to mislead HB m make her realize her mistake or it could b that while he is at the war khema someone gives him wrong info on jofhad conversion n his anger he ends up giving her divorce n repenting later. What do u guys think?



For sure he cant divorce Jodha..This much is certain...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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promo is clearly misleading. ek to jo ja r not even in the same place jalal is in war tent and jo is in palsce. n cvs for sure wont show talaq because then theyll have to show jodha marrying someone else as halala nikah or they will hv to show akdha remaining divorcd. both they cant show. i feel jalal will leave to battlefield wid d wrong info tht jo hs cnvrtd n will imagine this
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Guys i think there can b only two ways the promo can go. Either jalal is doing this to mislead HB m make her realize her mistake or it could b that while he is at the war khema someone gives him wrong info on jodhas conversion n his anger he ends up giving her divorce n repenting later. What do u guys think?




no ... i think it will be HB's dream... i think Jo will tell her , that Jalal thinks that if Jo changes her religion, then the very base of their marriage will break , and then their marriage will be invalid...and it means he will be all alone once again as Jo won't be in his life as there will be no marriage btw them...

this will scare HB and she might dream , that Jo has converted and Jalal is angry and divorcing Jo... this will bring HB back to her senses...

this is what i hope
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great discussion going 👏
I have not seen promo. But I can say for sure no divorce will happen. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

res :)

Jodha really deserves 3 cheers :)

Unres

Yesterday's episode carried a twist in the tale 😆

Loved the episode - thanks CVs for proving me wrong!

I was sure that CVs would never show Jodha thinking things over and refusing Hamida's "orders" to convert. But that's exactly what she did. Atta girl!! 👏


At least I was right about one thing. That Jodha had been coerced by Hamida into the conversion in a weak moment. Hamida had just rushed her into the whole thing WITHOUT giving her a chance to think about anything at all. It was not that Jodha was a weak woman / queen but that she had been preyed upon in an emotionally distraught period by a person she regarded as her own mother.


Once she was in the "ibadat khana" however and hearing the maulvi's words that she should accept Islam out of love and not due to any pressure, Jodha found time to think. And think she did.

She thought about everything that Jalal had told her about WHY she should NOT convert and also thought about everything Jalal was fighting for. When he was fighting for his ideals of a secular state, standing up to the pressure imposed by the SHah-i-Iran, and encouraging her to be true to her values and not bow down to pressure, how could she let him down?

Hamida tried every trick in the book to force her hand and at last, even resorted to a direct order as MM, but she could not sway Jodha. Fortunately, even the maulvi objected to Hamida's coercions.

The words that Jodha spoke about the Shahenshah being everything for her and that all other relations, including Salim (whom she mentioned explicitly) and Hamida (whom she implied but did not state explicitly) having been created out of her relationship with Jalal only were profound.

In a gentle yet firm tone, Jodha declared her love and commitment to Jalal the husband and king. Such a scene is what makes JA special for me. Not the umpteen Jalal hugs Jodha scenes or teasing banter scenes. But scenes in which they point out in a no-nonsense manner that they will stick to each other only and brook no interference from any quarter in their relationship.

Hamida must have felt like someone had snatched the Persian carpet from under her feet in a swift stroke. Nothing had prepared her for this avatar of Jodha that would refuse her, MM, something she had asked for.

Jodha on her part, never lost her composure for a moment, never showed any disrespect. Yet she stood her ground that she would not betray her husband, his trust and his principles by going against him.

It is this kind of composed queen / MEH I want to see. Jodha as a fiery princess in her teens was fine. But now that fire should mellow down into quiet composure and determined action.

It is this kind of an idealistic queen who puts her husband's values above her son's ambitions that I want to see. (No wonder, this brave queen stood by her husband when her son rebelled in reality.)

i am glad that at least Jodha is conscious of the fact that she owes her status and privileged life to Jalal. The rest of the kulba seems to think they were born to lead a life of privilege and rank. Whether it is Ruq, Salim, Murad or Hamida in recent episodes. For them, neither Jalal matters nor his ideals. They all think from their own perspective and act accordingly, without a thought as to how their actions would affect the kingdom or undermine the authority of the Shahenshah.



Looks like the conversion drama is far from over. Jalal will likely find out that Hamida tried to force Jodha into converting and have a showdown with his mother.

Ruq may try to take advantage of the situation by manipulating Hamida and trying to widen the chasm between Hamida and Jodha.

Hamida has warned Jodha that she will not forgive the latter. Wonder what repercussions Jodha will have to face because of upsetting Hamida?



Wow.. wonderful episode and wonderful analysis as usual. Loved the strong, firm MEH Jodha today. I am not worried about HB-Jodhas relationship.. but more worried about Jalal-Jodha.
Jodha did not take his permission and hid everything from him.. She almost converted .. but came to her senses on n ick of time.. but now Jalal will be hurt that how could she even think of accepting to convert? He will feel betrayed by his his wife and his mother. I am worried about those repercussions and not of Hamida and Jodha.. Hamida's ego is hurt but I dont think she will do anything to consciously to hurt Jo.. I hope so.. CVS have given us the strong Jo we wanted to see so.. let her be firm... I hope the talaq thing is just a dream...that will be too extreme a step...
but his reactions to Jo are always extreme bcoz his love for her is also such. maybe..
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Thanks Abhay for update,


Episode was memorable.

Liked Jodha , Analysis Own, or took Right decesion, or she stood for Own, +Husband respect, Tough for a female, at the same point, to satisfy everyrealtion.

But she took as a wife, as a MEH, Good decesion, HB Female Igo hurted😆,

Appriciable Jodha today also, If your Heart, not accepting, Other relgion, So just Stamped other relgion, is a insult other relgion.

Both couple, Really Broad internally.


Writing Some;

Beh Rehe thee, Vicharo kee Toofan mee,

Aaansu, bhee Kar rehe thee Kamjor,

Par Nikal hee laye Rasta, Joo thaa Ruh koo Manzoor,

Girne naa dee Sakh Majhab kee,Kyonki Mahhab kee Bhee hoti hee Paakee jgee (Holiness )

Hath Jode, too Parthna, +Duwa kere too Bandgee.

par Sada (pukar ) Jati hee , Ishvar Takk,, Parthna karo yaa Bandgee


Majhab hota hee Dil see,Dil kee koi Deewar Nahi,

simple saa phalsafa hee par samaz atta nahi,

Par kuch Moti bhee hote Hee, joo yee Samaz jate hee,

Iss serial mee humm unhe, AKDHA BUULATE HEE.

today hats off jodha,👏 👏


wow wonderful poem Ayushi..loved it.. Loved Jo today .Hope she remains like this till the end...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

res :)

Jodha really deserves 3 cheers :)

Unres

Yesterday's episode carried a twist in the tale 😆

Loved the episode - thanks CVs for proving me wrong!

I was sure that CVs would never show Jodha thinking things over and refusing Hamida's "orders" to convert. But that's exactly what she did. Atta girl!! 👏


At least I was right about one thing. That Jodha had been coerced by Hamida into the conversion in a weak moment. Hamida had just rushed her into the whole thing WITHOUT giving her a chance to think about anything at all. It was not that Jodha was a weak woman / queen but that she had been preyed upon in an emotionally distraught period by a person she regarded as her own mother.


Once she was in the "ibadat khana" however and hearing the maulvi's words that she should accept Islam out of love and not due to any pressure, Jodha found time to think. And think she did.

She thought about everything that Jalal had told her about WHY she should NOT convert and also thought about everything Jalal was fighting for. When he was fighting for his ideals of a secular state, standing up to the pressure imposed by the SHah-i-Iran, and encouraging her to be true to her values and not bow down to pressure, how could she let him down?

Hamida tried every trick in the book to force her hand and at last, even resorted to a direct order as MM, but she could not sway Jodha. Fortunately, even the maulvi objected to Hamida's coercions.

The words that Jodha spoke about the Shahenshah being everything for her and that all other relations, including Salim (whom she mentioned explicitly) and Hamida (whom she implied but did not state explicitly) having been created out of her relationship with Jalal only were profound.

In a gentle yet firm tone, Jodha declared her love and commitment to Jalal the husband and king. Such a scene is what makes JA special for me. Not the umpteen Jalal hugs Jodha scenes or teasing banter scenes. But scenes in which they point out in a no-nonsense manner that they will stick to each other only and brook no interference from any quarter in their relationship.

Hamida must have felt like someone had snatched the Persian carpet from under her feet in a swift stroke. Nothing had prepared her for this avatar of Jodha that would refuse her, MM, something she had asked for.

Jodha on her part, never lost her composure for a moment, never showed any disrespect. Yet she stood her ground that she would not betray her husband, his trust and his principles by going against him.

It is this kind of composed queen / MEH I want to see. Jodha as a fiery princess in her teens was fine. But now that fire should mellow down into quiet composure and determined action.

It is this kind of an idealistic queen who puts her husband's values above her son's ambitions that I want to see. (No wonder, this brave queen stood by her husband when her son rebelled in reality.)

i am glad that at least Jodha is conscious of the fact that she owes her status and privileged life to Jalal. The rest of the kulba seems to think they were born to lead a life of privilege and rank. Whether it is Ruq, Salim, Murad or Hamida in recent episodes. For them, neither Jalal matters nor his ideals. They all think from their own perspective and act accordingly, without a thought as to how their actions would affect the kingdom or undermine the authority of the Shahenshah.



Looks like the conversion drama is far from over. Jalal will likely find out that Hamida tried to force Jodha into converting and have a showdown with his mother.

Ruq may try to take advantage of the situation by manipulating Hamida and trying to widen the chasm between Hamida and Jodha.

Hamida has warned Jodha that she will not forgive the latter. Wonder what repercussions Jodha will have to face because of upsetting Hamida?




Hi Radhika.

Marvelous post. Jodha carried the whole episode. For once in a long time, she behaved like an Empress of Hindustan. Firm, yet polite and gentle to her MIL. Even the priest warned her about the consequences if she continued to force her. The part of the speech when she said that every relation she has with the empire is, and it will be because of her marriage with Jalal proves that their relationship is very deep.

@bold: Completely true. Each of them has their own motives and ambitions. That's why Jodha is his only support and Jalal hers.

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