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vinitaj27

@vinitaj27

Voyager

Posted: 11 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: adiana12

Neha they did not give him the wrong dialogue - you only quoted half of it - after this he added that it seems your silence agrees with this - that she is also blaming herself - and its becoz of this if you see his walk its that of a defeated man - her silence told him that she is also blaming their love and need for each other for the death of their kids

I think Adi that he did blame her o. Purpose. One was the need to lash out at someone n secondly the fear he has now of losing all those he loves. He has lost his father, mahamanga, atga Saheb, his khan baba n now his kids. He is scared that if he doesn't stop loving jodha she will also die so he is distancing himself from her both as part of feeling the guilt of that night n mainly to save himself from the pain of losing another loved one.he feels that if he stops loving her or doing things that will make her hate him then he will no longer be hurt again. But he is forgetting that killing his dil won't make a difference coz she is a part of his soul forever n he can't separate that from himself.

Edited by vinitaj27 - 11 years ago

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#72

JJ Soul talk: (actual words)

Jalal: Woh mohabbat jo hum dono ke beech thi, woh uss raat ke baad zindagi ki sabse badi galti mehsoos hone lagi thi humein...jaise ki hamari mohabbat hi hamari aulaad ki maut ki wajah bani thi...iss baar bina koi alfaaz kahe, bina ek doosre se alvida kahe, hum alag ho gaye the...

...uss raat ka andhera aisi deewar ban gaya tha jo saamne reh kar rahi bhi humein milne nahi de raha tha...

This pretty much explains everything...but only for those who wish to see Jalal's pov also. ..not otherwise...

N Jo agreed...that...

"Kuch bacha bhi nahi tha jo hum dono ko jode...samvaad ki wajah bane..."

So basically, both thought this was the most appropriate way for repentance...

Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago

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surabhi chandgothia

@chandgothia

Explorer

Posted: 11 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: elasingh

I know he is punishing himself too ...He is really hurting but three years is a long time and the process of healing should have started long back...Scars will always remain but what abt Jo? He has to think abt her too...

I agree to the fact dat scars always remain and for some incidents lifetym is also less...and this toh about der child...although i dnt think it has been 3 yrs yet...i guess the cvs r simply confusing us...i believe aftr the jung the healing process will start...

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adiana12

@adiana12

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: vinitaj27

I think Adi that he did blame her o. Purpose. One was the need to lash out at someone n secondly the fear he has now of losing all those he loves. He has lost his father, mahamanga, atga Saheb, his khan baba n now his kids. He is scared that if he doesn't stop loving jodha she will also die so he is distancing himself from her both as part of feeling the guilt of that night n mainly to save himself from the pain of losing another loved one.he feels that if he stops loving her or doing things that will make her hate him then he will no longer be hurt again. But he is forgetting that killing his dil won't make a difference coz she is a part of his soul forever n he can't separate that from himself.

Vinita yes he is doing as you say but he has not blamed her - he said that to know what was in her mind and her silence told him that she indeed thought like that - Akbar knows Jodha better than she knows herself - and this was his way to confirm what she was thinking - warna he would not have added that line

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mishtidoi

@mishtidoi

Dazzler

Posted: 11 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: adiana12

<font size="3">Neha they did not give him the wrong dialogue - you only quoted half of it - after this he added that it seems your silence agrees with this - that she is also blaming herself - and its becoz of this if you see his walk its that of a defeated man - her silence told him that she is also blaming their love and need for each other for the death of their kids</font>

Bingo Adi, He asked a question, a confusion and Jodha asserted his confusion ...Jodha has all his answers , its only she and what she believes in that matters to him. During Hasan's demise he clearly stated this thing to her.

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AbHer_neha

@AbHer_neha

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: adiana12

No Ela, I said Akbar will not MU Jodha and there will be no separation but there will be distancing - and Akbar has not MUed Jodha - go back to what he said - it was not pointing a finger at Jodha - she was blaming herself and her having loved him and spent the night with him for the death of Hussein and all he wanted to know was if this was true - and her silence told him that she did think so - thus for him it was as if even she was blaming their love for the death of their child and thus making him feel that his loving was the worst thing he did - he thus feels that he is the cause of her grief and thus more of a baddua for her and it would be better to keep his distance from her - and in keeping himself away from her he closed himself up from everyone and everything - and he never did go back to Ruqs warna when Ruqs said she would do the tilak woh iss tarah bhadakta nahin

Adi, we all know how much he loves Jodha. He knows that the reason of his pain is his feelings & emotions which originated from his heart. So he's trying to act heartless so that he shouldn't bear that pain again & that's why he's distancing himself from Jodha so that his heart shouldn't melt again. It would be interesting to watch how they will come together again & overcome their sorrow. Its painful to watch their separation but I m loving this track. Woh kehte hain na ki 'duriyon se hi nazdikiyaan badhti hain...' 😳

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: munnirony

this dialogue is just to distance himself from her permanently. he doesnt wants to be close to her neither he wants any love love making. this dialogue means why im imp for u??? he wants jodha to be at this guilt so tht she never comes close to him. he fears tht if again they make love & again jodha delivers he may loose tht child as well. as i said its a very complicated emotion & jodha knows tht why exactly jalal said it.😭

So true...I thought exactly the same...of another child too..., 😭

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shreya roy

@munni_rajatfan

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 11 years ago

#78

ok guys on a lighter note think it in a positive way. JJ r in totally love with each other & even a simple distance track wont be a big deal. so i hatred track is needed to get back the initial excitement. just see we will be arguing, banging our heads, take sides, bash the CVs but still will be excited to find how the things will sort out & how salim will come. we may feel sorry for jodha, jalal or akdha, feel angry with jalal, but we all will have tht desperation to watch how this track goes. all in all it wont be boring instead it will be passionate, bcoz passion starts from hatred. & TRP audience will be on their toes & thus TRPs will go up which is gud for the show. honestly, JJ love story had become stagnant. it needs trill. we may love or hate jalal, we may feel sad for jodha, we may have several jalal v/s jodha fights but in the end we all will want tht trill in their & we all will be excited to see how they end up. as i said we will loose our hair but JJ will evolve in each other's love & their hatred is also their love. & we will rise our BP & PH will earn money on tht. 😆 & also both RT & PS needs strong scenes to show their talent & only goody goody scenes r not giving them tht scope. so think from their point of view as well.

Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago

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adiana12

@adiana12

Rocker

Posted: 11 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---
JJ Soul talk: (actual words)
Jalal: Woh mohabbat jo hum dono ke beech thi, woh uss raat ke baad zindagi ki sabse badi galti mehsoos hone lagi thi humein...jaise ki hamari mohabbat hi hamari aulaad ki maut ki wajah bani thi...iss baar bina koi alfaaz kahe, bina ek doosre se alvida kahe, hum alag ho gaye the...

...uss raat ka andhera aisi deewar ban gaya tha jo saamne reh kar rahi bhi humein milne nahi de raha tha...

This pretty much explains everything...but only for those who wish to see Jalal's pov also. ..not otherwise...

N Jo agreed...that...

"Kuch bacha bhi nahi tha jo hum dono ko jode...samvaad ki wajah bane..."

So basically, both thought this was the most appropriate way for repentance...

Infact Khushi, his words to Jodha earlier were - 'Kya humne apko Hussain k pas rehne ko nahi kaha tha...kya humein humare bachche ki maut ki wajah apko nahi manna chahiye...aapki khamoshi bata rahi hai ki aap bhi aisa hi sochti hain' - This tells that he is tatoloing Jodha's thoughts to know what she is thinking

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Ela Singh

@elasingh

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 11 years ago

#80

Originally posted by: Goras
Ela they took 3years leap to justify time cos they could not show two more deaths but where is SD lust n all cvs bhi oryx loss ke patient hai
N more over with jodha permission he could not fight with Rajwanshies I always had that question some how I got this answer the rough eK NR

they could have showed the war some other way...they did not have to show such a big time distnce...