Ruq shows her real colours as Jalal tries to get Husein back to Jodha! - Page 7

Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

Mansi, nice analysis. If,i again repeat If(as i have doubt wl it b ever) ruq's greedy face is divulged before everyone then
Among predictions i wl take diksha's one where as last nite my perception was same like diksha's prediction after seeing precap. B/c ruq's stubborness,greed to get MUZ won't allow Hussain to go with dadisa in amer n eventually Hussain wl b assassinated by zeenat so here ruq is indirectly killer of Hussain but if ruq mixes poison in Jo's food n for this reason Hussain dies then ruq wl b direct murderess of Hussain despite how much she yelps she doesn't want to kill Hussain n its punishment can't b simply not to talk with her by jalal rather he should order hanging ruq until death.
Largely if ruq doesn't do any further blunder despite it she has been already indirect sinner of Hasan's death n in next perhaps for Hussain's death.
1st she emotionally blackmailed both JJ n snatched Hussain frm Jodha.
2nd, ruq's narrow sense cheap mind didn't allow jo to b dai ma of Hussain hence her dai ma searching for H news might reach to zeenat's husband then he planned how to kill ja's twins pretending zeenat as marvelous mother before ruq so ruq's highly dumbness n selfishness were directly liable for Hasan's assassination.
Now her next blunder wl b not allowed Hussain to go amer which wl help to murder/harm Hussain gradually.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi, I did not think it was demeaning for Jalal to ask Ruk for Hussain.

Just try to see where Jalal is coming from - he STILL thinks Ruk is capable of friendship! He first asked her as a friend cos HE still thinks Ruk IS his friend? Has it slipped his mind that a friend would not have insulted and humiliated him in DEK?

Jalal is also in pain and he is scared inside - what if Jodha actually loses the will to live and he loses her also? In this state where Jalal cannot openly show his pain and is worried sick about Jodha - he just turned for help to Ruk cos HE STILL considers her friend.

Jalal reminded Ruk of what Jodha did for Ruk's dreams for her maternal craving and somewhere he hoped that Ruk will feel some guilt some compassion for Jodha. Ruk did not.

Jalal begged as Shehenshah as last resort and Ruk replied that she will refuse even if "do jahan's Shehenshah begged before her". Ruk threatened to kill herself that he will have to take Hussain over her dead body.

All this just showed to me how much Jalal loves Jodha and how HE STILL feels that Ruk is capable of even a shred of decency

If Ruk had told him she will always be considered Hussain's mother and will do this for him - she would have earned his eternal gratitude. Not even as shared Jalal and Jodha would gladly have bestowed MUZ on Ruk.

I did not feel any sympathy for Ruk. She has no maternal feelings but wanted Hussain for MUZ and revenge. Ruk will make a show of overly maternal feelings cos she does not want Hussain taken from her.

Ruk does not know that "do jahan ka Shehenshah" does not beg - he acts and soon Ruk is going to be the one doing the begging. This time everybody will refuse her. Ruk will be left with nothing.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi, I go with Diksha's theory.

Here is what I would like to see

Dadisa will tell Jalal about Shaguni bai's prediction that being in palace is harmful for Hussain's life and that she would like to take Hussain to Amer or she will suggest Jalal take Hussain somewhere else outside of Agra for sometime.

Ruk will refuse and think they want to take Hussain away from her.

Hope CVs are not so sick as to show no punishment to Zeenat. Plus Zeenat has to be caught red handed ONLY then can she be accused. Otherwise she can go scot free saying they are wrongly accusing her again like last time. Remember the fire was started when she was dressed as a bandi, Zeenat might say someone else, some bandi poisoned Hassan and Hussain.

So Zeenat HAS to be caught red-handed in the act.

I think all this talk of Jalal asking Hussain back for Jodha, Dadisa wanting him taken out of Agra, Jodha's feeding Hussain - will make Zeenat act in haste. Cos what if on everybody's insistence if Ruk has to allow Jodha to atleast feed Hussain? Zeenat will then lose access to Hussain.

Ruk will not want Jodha to have anything to do with Hussain not even feed him, so Ruk will refuse and insist on only Zeenat feeding Hussain.

Zeenat will try to poison Hussain and succeed but will be caught in the act. There will be suspicion raised about her. Maybe the poison glove she used will be also seen on her finger. Zeenat will refuse all accusations since she knows it will take time for Hussain to show the symptoms. So Zeenat might say she gave some medicine/honey to Hussain. Ruk will support Zeenat whole heartedly. Even maybe accuse Jalal is doing this so he can take Hussain back from her for Jodha.

Jalal/HB/SB/Birbal someone will then say if this was honey or medicine prove it to Zeenat and she will be asked to feed the same stuff to Zeenat's own baby. Then Zeenat will avoid doing it and someone might force her to do it and that last min Zeenat will confess wanting to save her own baby. However in all the fracas Zeenat's baby will also somehow suck her finger. This will make shocked Zeenat confess everything wanting to save her baby.

After Zeenat is caught and it comes out she poisoned Hussain - Jalal or nobody will be thinking about the reverse farman but only about saving Hussain. Nobody will give a thought to Ruk just to saving Hussain and Hakima will try to give him antidote. Jodha is the one who will try to feed Hussain and everybody will be with her. Hussain will not survive and Zeenat's own child also will not survive.

Jalal will punish Zeenat and her husband.

Ruk by her refusal to handover Hussain, by not trusting Jalal, by even refusing to let Jodha feed Hussain, in her selfishness to keep Jodha away made Zeenat feed Hussain and will be held responsible for Hussain's death.

Originally posted by: Rasika29

Awesome post Mansi...😊

You have written everything about the episode and it was another lovely episode showing us the beautiful relationship that both Ja-Jo share.

I would like to write about the point you have raised about Jo getting Hussain...

I think that being with hussain may distract Jo for time being but the grief of loosing Hassan would not lessen.
So in my opinion Jalal should get hussain for Jo either permanently or not at all. As we all know how vicious ruk is and she will not let hussain go to Jodha...so this borrowing of hussain to cure Jo will just put her through agony of loosing child again and again. Also the innocent baby is not a parcel that they will keep passing it from one to another.

It would be better for both Jo and hussain that Jo gets him permanently...
Both Ja-Jo should let Ruk live happily forever with her dear audha and get back their child to themselves. Ruk can be a proxy MUZ for all I care.

About the predictions Diksha's theory seems plausible coz till now ruq has done nothing to harm Jo.
But I would prefer your theory coz it makes ruq the person directly responsible for the child death. Are you sure that this slow poisoning Jo by ruk will be there?

Originally posted by: chennaigirl

I want RUK to harm Jo and get punished..Period...I dont want to see her left free again after she has snatched Hussein..Had she been really having motherly intentions towards the baby, i would not have felt so strongly...But she only wanted revenge from Jodha and she is taking it and this is not motherly affection...So i want Jalal to get the baby back to Jo by using reverse farman and for that i want Ruk to commit mistake..Its high time Ruk gets her due, and if she goes scot-free again then i have nothing more to say about the sick minded CV's..

Originally posted by: chitterati

Mansi, great post and predictions. I for one am tired of the guess work, and as long as Jo JA are together i can watch anything

Am so mad at cvs, if they are capable of giving us such intense, meaningful and heartwarming episodes why, why dish out crap like Atifa, khyber, and supposed salim anarkali !!!!!!

Waise, on a lighter note, Incase dadisa has gotten some new Jewellery and clothes, I hope Jo keeps them ;)

Mansi, JO after telling Kahna she will not pray close the curtain, but then brought bac to the reality that she lost Hussan.. None could stop her crying, only the baby crying made that " her hassan is back " calling her... JO took the crying Hussein from her hands and feed her milk, still Ruqu didn't feel bad and snatch away the kid..

I liked Jalaal & HB scene which is so good, a mother consoling him.. Liked Jalaal crying himself, as he couldn't broke down before JO, & he unable to see JO in broken state.. He needs to cry let it off as HB said and liked HB told how JO forget her pain run towards Hussein and now he would think about the mother.

Poor Jallu begged Ruku, as a friend to give the kid to JO for few days, she out rightly rejected it.. Till now Jalaal have given her everything to Ruku, still how selfish she is ? Jalaal had a little hope may be Ruqu (a friend) will give the baby.. He is not feeling anything, now his only wish is to bring back his JO from depression and give her hope..

I liked the way Jalaal said that JO happily give away the child, now here dreams are shattered can't she give the child for few days for his sake ? Seeing Ruku sallowness Jalaal just left from there..

I think Jalaal is not for how many days he want to baby, he desperately wants the baby still JO recover, then he knows JO will understand and may give back the kid... She is not selfish nor insensitive like Ruqu. He has his faith on his JO..

The way Jalaal asked her to eat something & even try to feed her but JO told him she can't and Jalaal wanted to bring JO back to normal..

JO finally accepted the truth, but still broken..I liked the way Jalaal fill JO maang and told her he wouldn't live without seeing her face for one day also and now Bharmal & dadisa came to see their grand children and got to know the truth that they lost one kid..

I liked the way JO didn't run to dadisa, but still in the protective Hug of jalaal and he is the one disclose the truth...

Mansi, this is getting intolerable. She is not letting jodha come near the kid. I can't bear this nonsense any more. But maddy's theory sound correct mansi. Cause of she slow poisoned jodha then she is directly responsible for what happens with jodha and hussein and jalal will not spare he. Like Maddy said her stubbornness of not allowing jodha near the kid will lead to husseins death and I personally think daddisa and bharmal will hang around till both the kids die. Daddisa will say that shaguni had said that the kids are not safe in the palace. Don't be surprised mansi, if jaan begum ends up insulting daddisa and bharmal today. I can't see this woman and I want her to be horribly punished by jalal. Any news as to exactly how much more time we have to tolerate my jodha crying and jaan begum's insult? I just want them to finish off hussein'sillness death too and zeenat and her husband to be fed or the wolves. Birbal please should get hussein to jodha and jalal should not even bother talking or begging ruks. You are so right mansi. Jalal can clearly see the difference between jodha and ruks. Mansi I wanted to add one point. Look at the dignity of jodha, when hussein was snatched from her, nor once did she demand hussein back,from ruks , even from jalal. In this distressed state too she knows that she has given her word. This is true royalty. Ruks, why did not jodha fill your lap and take pain herself? Well I'm fighting a lost cause and even jalal knows it. He will have to use the reverse farmaan. I just want this woman to be ridiculed by all in public. Only then my soul will be at peace.

fabulous analysis
Fairly it the aftermath of grieving episode of a parents.

Jodha is still in the state of shock, devastated having losing her son. On the contrary they show Jalal's pain as a father lost his son. separately the two of them who feels the same pinch, sorrow, pain, agony. One was vocal that's Jodha n one was silent mourner Jalal but the pain is the same.

Hamida came just in time to console broken Ja n says he has to strong for Jodha. Everyone know of his presence, his words couls help her.

Jo running towards Husain n feeding him showed the anguish mother trying to c Hassan in Husain. Jalal putting the sindoor on Jodha shows she has to survive n fight it for him, because he lives on her breath. n how much he love her..

Ruq was selfish n to make it worse she is instigated by other. i didn't like. Ja asking for Husain to comfort Jodha. He only refered Ruqs as friend n asked for hussain.

All their hugs, face expression, depict that the sorrowful JJ still trying to live without Hassan.

i can't see jodha like this,it hurts my heart. and that idiot ruku i just hate her..how cheap she is and her crazy position.i lost hopes n i dont think ruks exposure will happen..

Originally posted by: skanda12

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I wonder if Dadisa will give Ruq a good box on the ears! She should!

no dadisa won't say anything to ruq despite getting such insult n bad manner frm ruq rather she wl go back in pale face. Anyone of Jodha's family r not disobedient,envious,malicious like ruq that they can tolerate thousand times reprimanding behavior frm Jalal's family but never do loud their voice before them. I always feel glad to see Jodha's paternal family. Why mainavati didn't come in agra? This time Jodha needs mainavati very much.