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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: elasingh

None so blind as those who dont want to see...

dear Akbar was not a lover boy neither he love ruqaiah or muz or anyone but yes he was close to ruq because she was with him from childhood and muz because she gave him salim
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

yes she converted to islam before marriage and so did jehangir hindu wives and shah jahan's hindu wives etc

to marry itself a non muslim woman has to convert else they cannot marry a muslim man. its same rule in Christians too, the cannot marry another religion guy or girl till they convert its not legal marriage no social sanction or religious sanction
pls read some history books in library its all given in detail



As far as I know and what I read Jodha did not convert, other Rajput Princess did.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: myviewprem

no dear

salima never married nur jahan to jehangir
after her husband sher afghan death nur jahan and her daughter ladli were maids in waiting for ruqaiah from 1506 till 1511. Jehangir saw her in meena bazaar and married her. Salima has nothing to do with their marriage. I read jehangirnama from british library the original translation.
Indian historians do not want to show Rajput princess forced to marry for political reason and Akbar married for political reason. So they say jodha married for love etc it was purely to save amer she married no love its just luck she gave bbirth to salim the first living son of Akbar else some other wife would be famous as his lover because she gave birth to first son. In jehangirnama and shah nama both official ones both emperors say ruqaiah was most loved of Akbar wife. In jehangirnama and shah nama and many other books it says that Akbar was 8-10 months in battle field till age of 35 years. He was a ruthless warrior like ghenghis khan, alexander the great etc till mid 30s he would have no time for love in real sense. How else he can make such big empire through war and political marriages only.

I dont know which version of Jahangir nama you have read...Noor stayed with Salima and she was the one who arranged their marriage...and it is clearly given in many history books..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



As far as I know and what I read Jodha did not convert, other Rajput Princess did.


Sorry to interupt but if she converted to Islam how come there is Kanha temple , tulsi chaura in Sikri fort . Kya wo bhi ?NR hai


It was her love for Akbar she chose to be buried instead of Chita mein jalana .
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Posted: 11 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



Please do not state its by luck Jodha gave birth to Salim. Without God's blessings nothing can happen. Jodha was destined to be MUZ and the fact that Akbar and Jodha had many kids proves their love for each other. I have heard about Salima begum also helping out Akbar with administartion along with JODHA, but not about Rukaiya...

I cannot comment on kids thing because the only living child of both was salim if they had more kids and died its not mentioned with her name in akbarnama and jehangirnama states he was only child of his parents. people say jehangirnama should not be belived regarding muz and Akbar kids. But no other history books have details of it. It is speculated that Hassan hussain was their kids but some history books give thir mom name as not known. So I am not sure if they had more kids who died but salim was their only living child.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for info buddy 😃 this ek ruk and real ruk are same... I always believed that akbar must hv tolerated her as she is his cousin first wife nothing more than that... Any wer I dint see or listen abt ruk as important wife or lovable wife... I hv seen jo or MUZ as lovable and most imp wife to akbar... Last month also I watched movie in my regional language abt akbar wer only jodha was shown as his wife and it was of 1960 movie I guess old movie... Even sikri fort says that how much he loved jo... Ruk is first wife and so she was listed as Khaas begum or else she wud not even b in that list... In our serial only ruk was given this mcih importance... In akbar the great serial ruk was least shown and jo was shown as his love and Salima as his good advisor ... Why sikri even before Salim birth akbar constructed fort for her as she is the beloved for akbar... I feel strange that ekta gave so much importance to rukayya in this serial wer as even history doesn't give that much importance to her...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Again your faacts are wrong...Akbar spent most of his time running the empire and not in battle feilds...In the most glorious days his empire could not invade south ...and neither did he fight so many battles...he had generals to do it...
And I agree with you Jo was married to him for political purposes but later he fell in love with her ...and serial has shown that only...but to say that Jo was important to him only becoz she gave birth to heir is just trying to malingn her...

I dont know what you have against Jodha and why you always try to put her down? any way each to his own...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Goras


Sorry to interupt but if she converted to Islam how come there is Kanha temple , tulsi chaura in Sikri fort . Kya wo bhi ?NR hai


It was her love for Akbar she chose to be buried instead of Chita mein jalana .

Plz Plz Plz Sikari and Agra fort both have temples built inside...Infect Sikari has a very large temple built for Jo's kanha...I have been there so many times...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: elasingh

Again your faacts are wrong...Akbar spent most of his time running the empire and not in battle feilds...In the most glorious days his empire could not invade south ...and neither did he fight so many battles...he had generals to do it...

And I agree with you Jo was married to him for political purposes but later he fell in love with her ...and serial has shown that only...but to say that Jo was important to him only becoz she gave birth to heir is just trying to malingn her...

I dont know what you have against Jodha and why you always try to put her down? any way each to his own...

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Posted: 11 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: myviewprem

yes she converted to islam before marriage and so did jehangir hindu wives and shah jahan's hindu wives etc

to marry itself a non muslim woman has to convert else they cannot marry a muslim man. its same rule in Christians too, the cannot marry another religion guy or girl till they convert its not legal marriage no social sanction or religious sanction
pls read some history books in library its all given in detail



yaa im muslim i know about this muslim cant marry to hindi untill she or he convert into lslam but jaise show mein dekh rahe hai jodha ne lslam qubool nahi kiya hai me talking about show

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