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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, can you believe this idiocy from the CVs? They have got Bakshi and Jodha mixed up?ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

Mansi, don't under estimate our Cvs. they can give you a narration about the birth and death of twins (Hassan & Hussain) and how Maham executed her plan and there by her death in 5 minutes like they read out the disclaimer and will show Jodha pregs in her 3rd trimester with a baby girl. If they have tweeted this, then we should have some faith in them.. Further Mirza Hakim has to become negative and what could be the reason for him to turn negative unless it was related to Taqth. May be they will show Jodha giving birth to baby girl (after death of twins, so Ruqu who thinks only boys mother can ne MUZ will not claim that child as hers) and Jalal has promised to Jodha will announce his daughter as his heir to the sultanate which might infuriate HM, so he will rebel.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, don't under estimate our Cvs. they can give you a narration about the birth and death of twins (Hassan & Hussain) and how Maham executed her plan and there by her death in 5 minutes like they read out the disclaimer and will show Jodha pregs in her 3rd trimester with a baby girl. If they have tweeted this, then we should have some faith in them.. Further Mirza Hakim has to become negative and what could be the reason for him to turn negative unless it was related to Taqth. May be they will show Jodha giving birth to baby girl (after death of twins, so Ruqu who thinks only boys mother can ne MUZ will not claim that child as hers) and Jalal has promised to Jodha will announce his daughter as his heir to the sultanate which might infuriate HM, so he will rebel.

Jaya, I hope there is SOME logic to this tweet, otherwise I am ready to book their entry into the nearest mental asylum!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
Mansi, absolutely wonderful post and you raised the one point which nobody talked about.

However, why would HB even consider the violence angle if BB had NEVER confided in her how SD behaves with her. Jodha had long ago seen mark on her cheek but when asked BB had lied and told her she had banged into something (if I remember correctly). That time Jodha's own relationship with Jalal was not strong.

Nobody can go to her help if BB herself denies this. What if anyone of these women had realized about the violence and on asked BB herself had sided with SD and denied it?

If BB wants to play victim and HIDE SD's violent behavior then it is her own fault. Granted she was a widow and does not want to face life like that again. However, is THIS the kind of life she is happy living? By NEVER standing upto SD it is BB who had let him get away with violence.
SD has got so brazen at BB's cowering and realizing that she is not going to complain to HB and Jalal about him - that he has openly started leeching at another woman in front of BB.

A woman who is doted on by her family, has a powerful Shehenshah for a brother who will do anything for her happiness, entire support system available to her and still BB CHOOSES to remain a victim!

Not just HERSELF by keeping quiet BB is exposing her daughter to future physical abuse at the hands of SD since he has no love for the daughter. Surely THIS is one time BB should grow a spine and stand upto SD if not for her own sake then for her daughter's.

The after delivery time was the perfect time to tell SD openly he has got a daughter. BB had entire support system and Jalal at hand to defend and support. What did she achieve by lies? Will SD not get more aggresive when he realizes BB is afraid of his violence?

What did BB's lies get her? Once Jalal gets the truth he is going to put SD straight, which would have happened long ago if BB had opened her mouth to HB atleast.

If SD had tried to harm her daughter like BB fears he would, then WAS BB capable of stopping him? Surely for her greatest fear for her daughter's sake BB should have IMMEDIATELY confided in HB, Jodha, SB. Surely she knows them enough to know they will stand by her.

What has BB achieved by her lies? If Jodha had inadvertently not revealed the truth to SB - then BB would still be alone and after SD learnt the truth from Ulemas would have been violent like he did.

If BB had opened her mouth in front of all the ladies, she would have got firm support and HB would have ensured some protection for BB from SD.

It is a sad state that the sister of most powerful liberal man does not trust him enough to confide in him long back. Seeing the strong women around her does not make BB gain more confidence. Even her daughter being at risk makes her want to ask for help. All BB is doing is wringing her hands and cowering without doing a thing.

If Jodha had not found out the truth, what might SD have done to baby? Atleast now he KNOWS that HB and everybody knows about the daughter and will think before harming the baby atleast.

SD is a coward - wife beater and back stabber and cowards need to be confronted which is what I hope Jalal does to him.

I want to see the end to SD leech about Jodha track. It is extremely cheap and crass and Jodha should not have to face this.

I want BB to confide in Jalal only - not even tell Jodha and let Jalal then beat the daylights out of SD.

BTW - Ruk was blasting BB for telling LIES!!!!!!!! Really???? This paragon on truth Ruk is talking about lies with a straight face?
Ruk was smoking hukka in front of pregnant Jodha.

Let Jalal see this and I want a shredding tongue lashing to Ruk for smoking in public. What she does in her hojara who cares?!

PS : maybe SD will flee and then plot some attack on Jalal, which Sujamal might warn Jalal about.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

wonderful analysis di

i liked when jalal answer intelegently to raja.. when jalal talk about his nephew and his child the way he smiled while looking at his hands gave the feeling that he was actually looking at the child

bakshi digged her own grave when she married sharif

i feel pity for her Bakshi is so week can't stand her right,

i m not surprised at Ruks...her thoughts on girls👎🏼...Her obessession with marium zamani...

ruku was a jerk today, mind telling me what gender she is? marium u zamani is all she has in her brain not a thing more

read she will try to poising jodha, is that true?

ruku is too caught up in her marium u zamani dream to see that she's going to make things bad for herself...Ruks is suffering from short term memory loss. Anytime Jodha saves her from disaster she becomes very nice then bang! She goes back to the usual!😆. few now i just want ruks to disappear!!!

I just hate Sharif , how can he
do that? Is his mother not a girl?even the priest told sharif he should be proud of his daughter
but he was too fix in hating the child to even hear that

seriously
there was a time when I was watching DID
Lil masters,a girl came for an audition
she's so cute but her dad left her
mom because she's a girl!in this 21 century.🤢

Edited by hely - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, I hope there is SOME logic to this tweet, otherwise I am ready to book their entry into the nearest mental asylum!

Mansi, if they are really serious about brining in Salim Anarkali love story in next 1 months course, the they have to rush all these things right? Why will they append money on some kids (infant artists) and some more wars sequences, that too while Jalal is boosting his army strength in lakhs (to show that they will have to pay the graphic artists as well right? moreover, in a span of 1 month (1 week is over) they have to show Jodha bear and deliver 6 to 7 kids, so it would be better for them to narrate than show her baby bump always. Anyways they have BB with baby bump so excessively that it will cover up for Jodha's all pregnancies.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
Hi, Mansi,

As useal, Good Analysis.

Episode was interesting. It showed three Things.

1, BB, Point,

2, Second, Boy Can become, Mughal Heir.

3, First, Jallad, Then Jalal, Next Akbar, But Why we called, Akbar The Great Akbar.

So first, Akbar is changing in to Akbar The Great.

A king who was Rude, only knows Fight & win over the world. Now thinks, War side effects.
war can only destroy., he thinks now.

He tried even MC+AM when tried to attack, he wants to choose Peaceful Method, But Failed.

but He again tried this method.

1, He respects, Rajvancies,it cleary shows, his Growing+Decent behivour, which will hep him
making of Akbar the Great.

2, Siphahi siphahi Hota hee, Raha sahib,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Now he knows, imp of Life, few days we saw, he is withboutdrawing, for King Post,;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Now he is behaving like a BLANCE KING,
which is necessary.

3, He clears about his vision, he wants, Everybody will live in peaceful way+united, way,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So its a Big Achievement. No body fear from me, everybody, live their place in Peaceful manner;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So this poilcey Akbar adopted, & RULED OVER INDIA.
its a simple start now,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but we see Transperentely,;;;;;;;;;;;;Back bone is jodha;;;


4, He cleared his Power, in front of Rajvancies. so Now they should decide. What they want.

5, Scene was amajing, Jalal body Language, +Speaking Language. & Without Anxioty, he was talking,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How much this Person is changin ?.

6,Jalal realtionship is changing, between TM +MS clearly showed.

7, How much jalal is waiting, for Own kids,or How much imp, is his Neice for him, so as a King, +as a Human he too much changed;;;;;;;;;;;;;So things are changing, in Jalal's Life.

This scene was Jaan of the Episode.


Sharrif point.

Sharrif knows, BB speaked Lie, but his problem was that, His all dreams, going to be Fail.

He wants to kill jalal, if Boy borns, He will sit after sharrif throne, because Ruk words was,

a BOY can sit on Mughal empire.


HB, salima, all female Gang in BB hozara;

1 Liked jodha said to BB, she should say her Talk. Because BB stoped Jodha to tell anyone.

2, jodha told HB, or Salima, Bakhsi, is speaking Lie, because sharrif not want this, so as a Mother,, HB responsibity was Big;

a, She said, she should not speak, Lie in front of, Sharrif, hWhy she not realised or ask BB actual reason hiding this news.

b, Sharrif was speaking to much, front of HB, why HB not feeled doubt,Sharrif behaviour.

c, Why any women not think atonce, Which is the big reason speaking lie for BB.

d, Everyone was, saying BB, but too much faith on sharrif, not digest.

Acc to precap, jalal will took action, against sharrif.

He will recalled, BB, Face was why Red ? so hinting, Sharrif +jalal gap is coming, but seeing point is this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BB where stands.


Ruk +jodha +salima talks;


1, Talks were good.

2, liked jodha words, When you & me were borned;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Out parent should be sad
No;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because daughters are also very Brave+important,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where women respects,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where live, DEVATS.👏 👏 👏 👏.

3, Salima gave ex,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Rajiya Sultana,;;;;;;;;;;;;;if we see,MC, HB, also in good posts.

4, But one was confusing;

a, Ruk words were, A Boy can sit on Mughal empire.

b, When jodha said, HB is own MUM, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Ruk ans was HB is not MUZ, MUZ will who, Who will birth, a Boy child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but jalal is a BoY child?

c, Is MUZ is bigger than MUM.?

Or new Tweet,😕.


Is Sharrif Gap is hinting,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Sharrif attack, where Sujamal will save, Jalal.

so Reshem attack, +sharrif attack, +Jodha delivery on the floor


Edited by ayushimehra - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi, absolutely wonderful post and you raised the one point which nobody talked about.

However, why would HB even consider the violence angle if BB had NEVER confided in her how SD behaves with her. Jodha had long ago seen mark on her cheek but when asked BB had lied and told her she had banged into something (if I remember correctly). That time Jodha's own relationship with Jalal was not strong.

Nobody can go to her help if BB herself denies this. What if anyone of these women had realized about the violence and on asked BB herself had sided with SD and denied it?

If BB wants to play victim and HIDE SD's violent behavior then it is her own fault. Granted she was a widow and does not want to face life like that again. However, is THIS the kind of life she is happy living? By NEVER standing upto SD it is BB who had let him get away with violence.
SD has got so brazen at BB's cowering and realizing that she is not going to complain to HB and Jalal about him - that he has openly started leeching at another woman in front of BB.

A woman who is doted on by her family, has a powerful Shehenshah for a brother who will do anything for her happiness, entire support system available to her and still BB CHOOSES to remain a victim!

Not just HERSELF by keeping quiet BB is exposing her daughter to future physical abuse at the hands of SD since he has no love for the daughter. Surely THIS is one time BB should grow a spine and stand upto SD if not for her own sake then for her daughter's.

The after delivery time was the perfect time to tell SD openly he has got a daughter. BB had entire support system and Jalal at hand to defend and support. What did she achieve by lies? Will SD not get more aggresive when he realizes BB is afraid of his violence?

What did BB's lies get her? Once Jalal gets the truth he is going to put SD straight, which would have happened long ago if BB had opened her mouth to HB atleast.

If SD had tried to harm her daughter like BB fears he would, then WAS BB capable of stopping him? Surely for her greatest fear for her daughter's sake BB should have IMMEDIATELY confided in HB, Jodha, SB. Surely she knows them enough to know they will stand by her.

What has BB achieved by her lies? If Jodha had inadvertently not revealed the truth to SB - then BB would still be alone and after SD learnt the truth from Ulemas would have been violent like he did.

If BB had opened her mouth in front of all the ladies, she would have got firm support and HB would have ensured some protection for BB from SD.

It is a sad state that the sister of most powerful liberal man does not trust him enough to confide in him long back. Seeing the strong women around her does not make BB gain more confidence. Even her daughter being at risk makes her want to ask for help. All BB is doing is wringing her hands and cowering without doing a thing.

If Jodha had not found out the truth, what might SD have done to baby? Atleast now he KNOWS that HB and everybody knows about the daughter and will think before harming the baby atleast.

SD is a coward - wife beater and back stabber and cowards need to be confronted which is what I hope Jalal does to him.

I want to see the end to SD leech about Jodha track. It is extremely cheap and crass and Jodha should not have to face this.

I want BB to confide in Jalal only - not even tell Jodha and let Jalal then beat the daylights out of SD.

BTW - Ruk was blasting BB for telling LIES!!!!!!!! Really???? This paragon on truth Ruk is talking about lies with a straight face?
Ruk was smoking hukka in front of pregnant Jodha.

Let Jalal see this and I want a shredding tongue lashing to Ruk for smoking in public. What she does in her hojara who cares?!

PS : maybe SD will flee and then plot some attack on Jalal, which Sujamal might warn Jalal about.


Maddy you have absolutely beautifully elucidated the point I was trying to make in my post. In fact you have taken the point and carried it to a whole new level.
See, I don't believe that Bakshi is that scared of Sharif. On the contrary I think she is besotted with Sharif in an unhealthy way. Sort of in love with the man! If she were truly afraid she would not have all this while put up with so much physical violence nor abetted his schemes against Jodha and Jalal. She would have confided in at least one other friend that she was suffering.
I think what keeps her tolerating and even hiding and condoning Sharif's faults is her "love" for him which is unhealthily consuming her.
I think this is exactly like the Sttockholm Syndrome where it is said hostages fall in love with their cruel captors and actually have separation pangs when they are freed. It is very unhealthy situation to be in so the sooner this relationship breaks the better. Or at least Sharif's torture should come out if Bakshi is to be freed from being a captive of her own mind!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: hely

wonderful analysis di

i liked when jalal answer intelegently to raja.. when jalal talk about his nephew and his child the way he smiled while looking at his hands gave the feeling that he was actually looking at the child

bakshi digged her own grave when she married sharif

i feel pity for her Bakshi is so week can't stand her right,

i m not surprised at Ruks...her thoughts on girls👎🏼...Her obessession with marium zamani...

ruku was a jerk today, mind telling me what gender she is? marium u zamani is all she has in her brain not a thing more

read she will try to poising jodha, is that true?

ruku is too caught up in her marium u zamani dream to see that she's going to make things bad for herself...Ruks is suffering from short term memory loss. Anytime Jodha saves her from disaster she becomes very nice then bang! She goes back to the usual!😆. few now i just want ruks to disappear!!!

I just hate Sharif , how can he
do that? Is his mother not a girl?even the priest told sharif he should be proud of his daughter
but he was too fix in hating the child to even hear that

seriously
there was a time when I was watching DID
Lil masters,a girl came for an audition
she's so cute but her dad left her
mom because she's a girl!in this 21 century.🤢

hely, you have mentioned that bakshi has dug her own grave by marrying Sharif. But if you remember when Jalal and Hamida were talking of getting bakshi married again after the death of her first husband, the choice was between Sharif and Adham Khan (whom Maham wanted to get married to Bakshi so that Adham will become the behnoi of the Shahenshah!). I wonder today what would have been Bakshi's condition if she had married Adham instead of Shharif? Would it have been any better?😲
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39
nice analysis😊
I agree HB should think the reason behind bakshi's lie before asking her to tell the truth to sharif...are they sure sharif is that much understanding.
I want Bakshi to reveal sharif's bad behaviour atleast when Jalal asks her the reason.
I want to watch Sharif's dhulai today itself
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Posted: 11 years ago
#40
Mansi, unique analysis.. Loved ur green lines.. 😳
As myself bluffed so much why this girl is so need to hide such sensitive truth.. It was a horrible moment when whole ladies confronting BB but no one raised her a query what was the actual cause behind doing this.. Infact for this only Jo alone knows the answer but she tried to boost up her with words.. Actually Jo had a chance to witness BB sobbing every time hardly.. After reading ur theory based on Jalal way.. I guess today both JJ would recall their glancing BB's reddish cheek during delivery time enlightening and enhanced proofs against SD.. Because I had a least faith on BB in discovering SD physical violence act.. if this was supposed to be happen today where Jalal widely asking her whether he mishandled you BB? Either it depends on her answer but today it's the state of Jalal thoughts differs where he could get her answers without coming out from her words.. He himself will catch him easily.. Where I could see BB frightened torture spreading all over face when she tried to make dasi stopped her from going away.. I am waiting for today's turn..

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