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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi ,

A beautiful post .
Well the one thing which irritated me,was why the baby girl kept naked and wrapped in one piece of cloth? And why the camera on her private parts during Jo scene and Maulvi's scene? We can assume and understand things as viewers .
Another thing ,Jo did sense Shariff's intentional touch but that was not the right time to react .First ,Bakshi was in problem and another thing ,these issues do get difficult to prove when a close family member is involved.
Well ,Bakshi's secret was out and that is good.But what's with Jo praying loudly to Kanhaa and Salimaa hearing it? I never wanted this secret to come out from Jo intentionally or unintentionally.As I don't want her to get into trouble again.First of all ,Bakshi is already miffed with her and I don't want her to insult Jo again.And sometimes some problems are to be solved by that person who faces them himself.You can't always jump into other's issues ,unless things go out of hand or situation is threatening.I know SB and Jo were worried about Mughal sultanate's izzat and all but then Bakshi herself had created this problem and she has to face it on her own.Hadn't Jo herself being pregnant than the situation was still ok ,but at this time when she had faced so many things ,she has to go easy and should not take unnecessary stress.
Ruku slapping that elderly lady was horrible and this shows she doesn't have any decency but why didn't her MIL scold her for acting like this?
Well I will be happy if the show will show Jajo fighting for girl child cause.As still our country needs lot of awakening for this.It is so beautiful to have a daughter ,I feel myself to be unfortunate mother to have just a son and no daughter.



@bold: totally agree..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi ,

A beautiful post .
Well the one thing which irritated me,was why the baby girl kept naked and wrapped in one piece of cloth? And why the camera on her private parts during Jo scene and Maulvi's scene? We can assume and understand things as viewers .
Another thing ,Jo did sense Shariff's intentional touch but that was not the right time to react .First ,Bakshi was in problem and another thing ,these issues do get difficult to prove when a close family member is involved.
Well ,Bakshi's secret was out and that is good.But what's with Jo praying loudly to Kanhaa and Salimaa hearing it? I never wanted this secret to come out from Jo intentionally or unintentionally.As I don't want her to get into trouble again.First of all ,Bakshi is already miffed with her and I don't want her to insult Jo again.And sometimes some problems are to be solved by that person who faces them himself.You can't always jump into other's issues ,unless things go out of hand or situation is threatening.I know SB and Jo were worried about Mughal sultanate's izzat and all but then Bakshi herself had created this problem and she has to face it on her own.Hadn't Jo herself being pregnant than the situation was still ok ,but at this time when she had faced so many things ,she has to go easy and should not take unnecessary stress.
Ruku slapping that elderly lady was horrible and this shows she doesn't have any decency but why didn't her MIL scold her for acting like this?
Well I will be happy if the show will show Jajo fighting for girl child cause.As still our country needs lot of awakening for this.It is so beautiful to have a daughter ,I feel myself to be unfortunate mother to have just a son and no daughter.


Well said... Even I was put off by seeing that baby's privates being inspected in public, for that I lost all sympathy for bakshi. A mother who can't stand up for her child does not deserve any sympathy or respect. Such contrasts make you love jodha even more. Btw, have been noticing since Monday that something is off in Jo JA scenes, they are meant to be cute script wise but jaan si nahin hai...maybe as Jalal is drained after such power packed performance, or maybe they are deliberately showing understated sorrow in light of recent tragedies. Is another war on the cards... Maybe this is the reason Jalal will miss being with Jo during later parts of her pregnancy and then delivery...either way I was hoping to see atleast 2 3 episodes of natkhat Jalal and shy jodha with all the love and pampering, but I guess I should get used to of disappointments on that front.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi, great take as usual. I don't think the Rajvanshi's at the Agra door step to wage war are just landed there out of their jealousy or because of Pratap. It looks like the ploy of Sharif as he now thinks as the prod father of a son who can get him the inheritance of the Mughal throne. If he has been shown lectching for Jodha and also thinking about Jalal's death and Jodha becoming his wife, then he would have planned this with some chota mota Rajvanshi's who would have thought Sharif will help them to become free rulers. I think these are the same kings who were under Jalal's umbrella and thought of rebelling when he was planning to get married to Atifa. Sharif would have taken all those into his confidence claiming Jalal's mind set changes every now and then and it is not good for them to be like slaves to Jalal while Ameris are being treated as royal etc. (divide and rule) and they would have fell for it.
He would have planned it so well that the war symptoms are shown only when Sharif had to stay at palace to take care of his new born and wife and also to fulfill all the rituals which are to be performed as a father after the baby birth so that he can stay back and claim the throne immediately after hearing the news of Jalal's death. But how cheap he could get that he forgot to think about Hakim Mirza who is there to claim the throne if some eventualities happen to Jalal.
With the baby gender truth why do I feel there could be some instances where in some babies were termed as kwaja sera's out of this confusion. like some mother doesn't want their children (male) to get into army of slavery and would have called them as girl child and later when the start developing and become teens, they may be termed as KS as they show manly features even thought they were girls (as declared by their mothers)
Anyways, I don't think Jalal will sned Sharif to war as he would have gone for that by now or by the time he come back after his war strategis meeting, the baby truth was wild spread and Sharif would have caused some damage to the child and in that fear would have fled even before Jalal could reach him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,
Hope and pray your Mom has recovered fully. Good analysis as always.. But I am hating Ruks and Sharif equally. They are getting on my nerves.. You are so right ..both belong to same category... as far as temper is concerned and their hunger for power is concerned and Sharif has this extra quality of being leechadd also.. How I hate these two.. and sadly Ruks is not going anywhere so soon..

About bakshi .. what can I say.. she is utterly coward ..I understand her situation she is scared that Sharif might do something nasty to the baby.. but if she had declared that it was a baby girl in front of Jalal and Hamida and others .. I dont think Sharif would have had guts to do anything to baby.. Had she talked to Hamida about Sharif in advance.. .. ?? I dont understand Hamidas role as a mother.. Nor jalal nor Bakshi confide their innermost feelings to her..What kind of mother is she then when her children dont have courage to speak their heart to her??

I only hope Bakshi does not blame Jodha for letting this news out and blame her for not keeping her promise.Again How can Ruks slap anyone in front of Hamida.. ?Why cant anyone stop her before slapping Hakima shaibaa?? Utterly disgusting... Why is Rukis present when Salima and Jodha had gone to Hamida ??Ruks has to be resent everywhere ..First it was Maham who had sarva vyapi presence and now its Ruks .. Jalal -Maansingh scene was good... at last Maansingh is getting some good dialogues.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati


Well said... Even I was put off by seeing that baby's privates being inspected in public, for that I lost all sympathy for bakshi. A mother who can't stand up for her child does not deserve any sympathy or respect. Such contrasts make you love jodha even more. Btw, have been noticing since Monday that something is off in Jo JA scenes, they are meant to be cute script wise but jaan si nahin hai...maybe as Jalal is drained after such power packed performance, or maybe they are deliberately showing understated sorrow in light of recent tragedies. Is another war on the cards... Maybe this is the reason Jalal will miss being with Jo during later parts of her pregnancy and then delivery...either way I was hoping to see atleast 2 3 episodes of natkhat Jalal and shy jodha with all the love and pampering, but I guess I should get used to of disappointments on that front.



@bold: U have said it. We cannot expect Jalal to be just normal all of a sudden. May be next week we get to see the Akdha romance.

BB needs to be blamed here. She has such a strong support from her family. Its understandable if this was not the case.

Me too Love JO immensely. Its really hard to be what Jodha is.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



@bold: U have said it. We cannot expect Jalal to be just normal all of a sudden. May be next week we get to see the Akdha romance.

BB needs to be blamed here. She has such a strong support from her family. Its understandable if this was not the case.

Me too Love JO immensely. Its really hard to be what Jodha is.

Guys, the problem with BB is that she think she will not be able to stay alone without an husband (atleast for namesake). May be her experience during that short period of widowhood have given her jitters that she is worried for the fact that what if Sharif leaves her and go. She was not worried just for the baby sake but also for her sake. She is in such a vulnerable stage (off course self imposed) that she can't imagine a life without sharif. If she had been that courageous, she would have opposed him when Sahrif manhandled her during Sukanya's wedding, she would have opposed him when he had asked her to feed that arc to Jodha or she would have opposed him when he openly started letching on Jodha's portrait in her presence. Even now if she has been presented with a situation to chose either Sharif or the child, she may chose Sharif and leave the child to some dasis.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Mansi ,

A beautiful post .
Well the one thing which irritated me,was why the baby girl kept naked and wrapped in one piece of cloth? And why the camera on her private parts during Jo scene and Maulvi's scene? We can assume and understand things as viewers .
Another thing ,Jo did sense Shariff's intentional touch but that was not the right time to react .First ,Bakshi was in problem and another thing ,these issues do get difficult to prove when a close family member is involved.
Well ,Bakshi's secret was out and that is good.But what's with Jo praying loudly to Kanhaa and Salimaa hearing it? I never wanted this secret to come out from Jo intentionally or unintentionally.As I don't want her to get into trouble again.First of all ,Bakshi is already miffed with her and I don't want her to insult Jo again.And sometimes some problems are to be solved by that person who faces them himself.You can't always jump into other's issues ,unless things go out of hand or situation is threatening.I know SB and Jo were worried about Mughal sultanate's izzat and all but then Bakshi herself had created this problem and she has to face it on her own.Hadn't Jo herself being pregnant than the situation was still ok ,but at this time when she had faced so many things ,she has to go easy and should not take unnecessary stress.
Ruku slapping that elderly lady was horrible and this shows she doesn't have any decency but why didn't her MIL scold her for acting like this?
Well I will be happy if the show will show Jajo fighting for girl child cause.As still our country needs lot of awakening for this.It is so beautiful to have a daughter ,I feel myself to be unfortunate mother to have just a son and no daughter.


Yes Rashmi.. about the camera angle .. I got very irritated by the same.. we can assume things.. they show us what we dont want to see and dont show us what we would love to see.. Romance between lead pair.. .for that ..we just have to assume things.. And Sharifss leeching Jodha. most unbearable.. but they will give long elaborate shots on it.. utterly disgusting.. BTW your post is very good. and agree cent percent when you say that sometimes problems hjave to be solved by the person who faces them.. always you cant jump into everyones problems and get into trouble .. you are so right...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Guys, the problem with BB is that she think she will not be able to stay alone without an husband (atleast for namesake). May be her experience during that short period of widowhood have given her jitters that she is worried for the fact that what if Sharif leaves her and go. She was not worried just for the baby sake but also for her sake. She is in such a vulnerable stage (off course self imposed) that she can't imagine a life without sharif. If she had been that courageous, she would have opposed him when Sahrif manhandled her during Sukanya's wedding, she would have opposed him when he had asked her to feed that arc to Jodha or she would have opposed him when he openly started letching on Jodha's portrait in her presence. Even now if she has been presented with a situation to chose either Sharif or the child, she may chose Sharif and leave the child to some dasis.


Well then Bakshi should take a cue from women in his brothers harem who live without a husband, atleast bakshi has a doting family, and powerful brother and now most importantly a daughter as a reason to be happy - what good is a husband, who does not care about you or your family, who openly lusts after another married woman!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Mansi for a very nice analysis. The episode though a very routine one, gave the reason for us to let out a huge sigh of relief. Thank god no Jashan!! Thank god no heavy burden of Vachan on Jodha, (thanks to u kanha).
Loved the chotu JJ scene, maybe RT is not feeling well & hence we are getting less scenes, so that he gets some well deserved rest.

Shariffudin is crossing his limits everyday, he is not scared of anybody, neither the almighty, nor the king. He will reach his fate very soon.

I am happy that they are raising this issue of Girl Child in the show, this is such an important matter for our country even in this age & time. So I am happy with this Natakiya Rupantar, as long as they portray it correctly.

Lets see how many days it will take Shariff to get some form of punishment. Take care.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati


Well then Bakshi should take a cue from women in his brothers harem who live without a husband, atleast bakshi has a doting family, and powerful brother and now most importantly a daughter as a reason to be happy - what good is a husband, who does not care about you or your family, who openly lusts after another married woman!!!

May be you didn't notice the word WIDOW over there. may be a life of a widow was too horrible that she can't imagine her husband being killed. She knows that very well the moment she tells her brother about her husband, he will ensure that Sharif is dead and that is the fear which is stopping her from revealing her husband's truth to anyone.
The women in Jalal's harem have their husband, whether they get to spend some quality time with him or not, but they are suhagans. And about him openly letching at Jodha and the reason she is not questioning him is that she fears that he may accept it openly and may start doing that more proudly, atleast now he does that secretly.
And about Maulvi scene, guys they were there to perform some ritual which involves that (for a boy) part of the baby'body. Otherwise how would the Maulvis know about the gender of the baby?

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