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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi u r right d episode was light hearted...but build up for Atagha n adham's death... i feel bad for Atgha saab...i will msss him ...
well as for precap... i dont keep much hope...trust CV's to ruin d little lollypop scene too...anyways i should enjoy it...as next few episodes r terrible...painful...violent...

waiting for Ruk to come back to sqaure one...i dont see tat happenng it in near future ..if not then i m sure tat Ruk will used tat wish for jodha's one of d kid from twins
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Jallu was searching for all the begums everywhere? I had an idea ,if he had just shouted,Aatifa I love you at the top of his voice ,all the begums would come running out of their hiding place .



Hilarious Rashmi . Couldn't stop laughing after reading that comment .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: karishma.s

Hi mansi and guys! Yesterday the episode was a bit light hearted and we will require this knowing that my poor atga is dying very very soon. But one thing I don't understand Maham's behavior. What kind of twisted love does she have for jalal? I just don't get it. She first tries to dethrone him and does not want to kill him? What does she expect out of him? I can understand that she hates jodha firstly for being a rajwanshi and later for exerting her influence on jalal so that jalal is no longer in her control. Did she not know that whoever becomes the king after him will first behead jalal? Anyways thank you for the amazing analysis and I hope there is a good romantic scene awaiting us from the hints of the precap. I have been fooled by the cvs many times so.

The most whhaaat!!!!!! Moment was when ruks was cooking for jodha. I literally was asking my brother who watches the show with me a hundred times as to did I hear the right thing!! Jodha don't eat that sweet which ruks is making.😡

Exactly, Maham's logic for not killing Jalal doesn't seem to make sense!😲😲😲😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi, Mansi,

Good, Analysis, Title is giving, Next Track Hintig.

Mansi, Episode, was interesting, I liked, It showed, after, Big incidence, How things Leave Effects., ( Once incidence happens, & it leaves effetcs, Many people, different Type.different shape.)

1, Maham plans were always Extreem, & she wants, For AK, Delhi Takht,
( just today thought came, Jalal drank, Maham, Feed, So He is Doodh -Son, & AK his Doodh Brother, So when Maham was bringing-Up Jalal, So acceptions, Made that day. He is like My Son, He will give, Somepart of his Kingdom, to AK,So Ambitions, Became High, Both, Maham +AK. She not taught,AK realty Lesson. Now AK Has Become, Tough, +Rude, type personality,)
So because her Mom is in Jail;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So all acceptions are killing Now. So Much frustatin is Increasing.Because Mother +son all plan is flopping Now.

2, Maham Own Or Not teach Ak, this lesson, We can't sit, at throne, because we are not Shahi Blood, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But they started, cunningness, Which is becoming cause of their Downfall ?

3.Maham is understanding, Possiveness is LOVE, but Yes some realtion, blancing, Realtionship, not finish, At sudden, So Both are feeling Pain. Its natural process, or you can't deney this.

4, Jodha understanding Jalal pain, as a King his decesion was Right, but, He loves Maham, it is giving pain, He knows, maham is selfish, which she did wrong, but some movements, which he shared, in childhood, remembering, & giving pain,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;we all feel, or thinks, Kassh , this would not happened, then our life will be different.


5, So Atgha son Aziz introduced, yesterday, but Point was good, Jalal when was faking for Atifa, he was noticing also this Matter, & he tackled, this task, ( Marriage of Atgha son )

(This clearly shows, Jalal trust, point about Jodha, as a king as a husband, as a Atgha, well -wisher he completed his duties.

6, Ak, meets, Maham, in Jail, Maham freed, him, but she not wants, Jalal should be kill.

a, AK frees, shows, Maham, frustation, but Jalal point is indicating, if AK killed jalal,
then HM, or Nigar, or now jodha is pregnant, then AK moto again will become more Tough.
because, if he arrested, then AK future will finish,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Same will happen, when he will murder Atgha.

b, is Maham is thinking, maybee she will be free, when jodha child will be Born, cause of happiness, maybee, Jalal will free her, then again she or Ak will do more Plans.😆 😆



DEK,

1, Dek scene was good, Jalal reawared, Atgha, & praised, Why maham not teach, Honesty Lesson, they can also acheive, these type of things.

2,Jalal is changing in to these days Mature King,When AK was shouting, he feeled, AK stoping is Necessary, so he did reality check to AK, but which Maham did for him.he, acccepted.

a, but he can't take these type of decesions, as a King, you brought-up me in childhood, so you have authority, to Misusing Laws. & you will plan to dethrone King,👏 👏 👏 👏,

b, But Jalal again underestimate this time, AK, now this will become,cause of Poor Atgha Khan,
Atgha, paid his Loyalty Cost,;;;;;;;;;;;;;But Jalal did justice to Atgha death, now enemies, will think 100 tiimes, to attack on Agra.( But Sad for Atgha )



1 Begums scene was cute, so jodhu, wants, how to cool+happy to Jalal.

2, Idea was good,by begums. Cooking +Games.😆 😆

3, Tense jalal wants to relax with jodha, so Moti ans was Cute, +good.😆 😆

4,All begums, with Mother, Gumshuuda, (Lost )

5, Ruk (Dudh kaa Halwa ) surprise package, is she buttering, jalal .?

6, Rahim jalal scene was good, Rahim, opened, all secreat of begums.😆 😆

7 Jodha advice to Tensen was good.😉

8 yesterday, Zeveda, also did reality check to AK, but Mother +Son, , not listens Zaveda, so

More, ambition of Maham +Ak,will become cause of both downfall. Poor Zaveda.

precap, interesting, Love-Birds are Coming, 😆 😆


Song land :
( Oh, Mehbooba, tere dil kee pass hee hee meri, manzil - e mas,😉

Voo kon see mahphil hee jaha tuu nahi moozad.😆 😆)

Ayushi, I totally agree with you that there is a good basis for Jalal's pain at punishing Maham, though he was forced to punish her after the things she did. But in my mind I am questioning Jalal's exact pain instead of just accepting it. No matter even if a person in childhood helped you so much, can you not put it in a tarazu and see which side is heavier - the side of mahamm's faults or Maham's good? The reason I am saying this is that even in Maham's good there is selfishness involved. It is my belief that somewhere she had power in her hand if she was helping the young prince grab his power as he grows up. As the popular saying goes, "sometimes the king-maker has more power even than the king"!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: gheet

Thanks for the analysis Mansi

After yesterday's episode, I have this nagging feeling that, if at all Ruqaiyya is going to be shown attempting to finish off Jodha, as per sbs - she may not want to harm the babies. Thus all the caring and etc. See she wants to be the most powerful one, in terms of her position in Jalal's life. She knows she can't give him the heir and she can't stand Jodha's importance and stand in Jalal's life. So if she kills her after the babies are born - Jalal has the heirs he wants, she can be the most powerful and important wife to Jalal, if Jodha is not in the picture, probably can root for MUZ title or anything equal as well. She would pledge to care for the babies and treat them as her own kids, Jalal would never deny. She also knows that after Jodha there is no way for Jalal to be connected deeply to another new woman, or anybody else so again nobody to beat her here. She can happily play the best friend/wife/queen for the rest of her life with the privilege of raising the future king on her own. Of course for all these to happen Jodha should not be in picture and she needs to build the trust and avoid suspicions in future - and that's why I guess all the change in climate, halwa and etc.

That is a very interesting angle!👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: arzoofive

Mansi u r right d episode was light hearted...but build up for Atagha n adham's death... i feel bad for Atgha saab...i will msss him ...

well as for precap... i dont keep much hope...trust CV's to ruin d little lollypop scene too...anyways i should enjoy it...as next few episodes r terrible...painful...violent...

waiting for Ruk to come back to sqaure one...i dont see tat happenng it in near future ..if not then i m sure tat Ruk will used tat wish for jodha's one of d kid from twins

Oh God, I don't want the twins to be separated!😲😲😲😲😲😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely take Mansi 👏👏 .. Yes it was a light hearted episode and though in terms of story progress nothing much happened but it was a feel good episode and loved the whole Adham-Jalal confrontation 👍🏼 ...

Today I actually tried to look from Adham's POV and felt bad for him .. Maham is main culprit why her son today has turned so bitter ... She gave all mother's love to Jalal for her own selfish motives and in the process she kept her own son Adham away from the motherly love , reason why today Adham feels cheated from both ends .. So Maham here is the main culprit who actually played with Jalal's emotions and even deprived her own son from the motherly love ..If Adham from his childhood had got that motherly love and good preaching from his mother , mayb he would not hv turned like this ... 🤔

But now writing is on the wall with Adham killing Atga I guess and then finally Jalal killing Adham .. sighhh ...

One Mahamanga actually destroyed many lives ... She was main hand behind Bairam khan's death too

Other than that liked the light moments between all Harem ladies when they decide to cook for Jalal under Jodha's supervision and the scene of the day got to b Ruqaiyya making kheer with grt difficulty for Jodha 😲😲😆 .. Hope she does not swing like a pendulum again if Jalal compliments only Jodha for the food and not her 😆 .. Better Jalal compliment everyone in this case 😆

Precap looks interesting with Jalal in teasing nad naughty mood 😛 but I guess nothing much will happen other than what we saw in precap 😆 .. so not much hopes there ...

Overall a good light hearted episode before the next storm of Atga's death I guess 🤔


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi I liked Adham-Jalal scene yday...chetan acting is superb⭐️i feel adham is like this bcz of maham..maham loves jalal more than adham...adham cudnt get motherly love from childhood n yday thats wat he told in dek n even jalal understood it...may b if maham wud nt b lik this adham may not hv grown lik this...anyone wil b powerhungry so as adham but adham cudnt get power n also love from her mother...

i seriously cudnt understand wat kind of love is this of maham on jalal😳she wants to dethrone him but doesnt want to kill him...does she wants to control him under her??she only wants to control him,rule him,love him n doesnt want any other to do same...but unfortunately it dint happen aftr jo came in his life... this mahams love is like sme psychc love...which mother wants to hurt his son extremely but doesnt want to kill him.?I think maham is suffering from mental disorder thats all i can say by seeing her love for jalal...

liked atgah jalal bonding😊but sad part is that very soon he is gng to dieloved jo idea of cooking,games to cheerup jalal...rahim is very cute yday😆aziz koka made rajkumari fall in love with him by just one visit😲but our rajkumari jo took one year😳

who is that yellow color dressed person in dek??saw him in offscreen pics...i thoght he is khwajasera but wat is he dng in dek??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good analysis on a good episode Mansi .
I got a chance to read it only this morning because I had to take my naughty English Yellow Lab to the emergency late last night , to fix a bleeding toe . He is okay now , looking ridiculously sad and cute in an E Collar . Schools have reopened today . I am getting back to work after a month's break . Posting my feedback before going to work .

It was a pleasant episode . I do not have an iota of sympathy for Mahamanga . She has redefined the definition of motherly love . She never truly loved Jalal . She loved his position as the king and the powers that came along with it . She misused all his weaknesses to the fullest , to her own advantage . Just because she nursed him , it doesn't mean that she loves him . All her favors for him were done with an ulterior motive . Trying to dethrone him was not in the least bit motherly .

The scene where the royal family members are wishing each other on the occassion of Id was a good one . Loved the teasing between Jodha and Jalal . The young man playing Atgah's son is cute looking but needs to brush up on his acting skills .

Lesser said about the fickle minded Rukaiyya , the better . Lets give her a few days , she will go back to being her normal vain , egoistic , screaming self .

Loved the conversation between little Rahim and Jalal . " Chota Mard " ... cute . Cannot wait to see Jalal interacting with his own kids .

It was touching to see the unity between the queens , when it came to Jalal's happiness . Enjoyed watching the queen mother and begums eager to show off their culinary skills . Shahi Mughlai Korma ... Cannot wait to see Jalal's expressions after tasting Jodha's dish .

The precap was the best scene of them all . Jalal and Jodha together ... Cannot wait for lunch break , to catch up with today's episode online .


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Lovely take Mansi 👏👏 .. Yes it was a light hearted episode and though in terms of story progress nothing much happened but it was a feel good episode and loved the whole Adham-Jalal confrontation 👍🏼 ...

Today I actually tried to look from Adham's POV and felt bad for him .. Maham is main culprit why her son today has turned so bitter ... She gave all mother's love to Jalal for her own selfish motives and in the process she kept her own son Adham away from the motherly love , reason why today Adham feels cheated from both ends .. So Maham here is the main culprit who actually played with Jalal's emotions and even deprived her own son from the motherly love ..If Adham from his childhood had got that motherly love and good preaching from his mother , mayb he would not hv turned like this ... 🤔

But now writing is on the wall with Adham killing Atga I guess and then finally Jalal killing Adham .. sighhh ...

One Mahamanga actually destroyed many lives ... She was main hand behind Bairam khan's death too

Other than that liked the light moments between all Harem ladies when they decide to cook for Jalal under Jodha's supervision and the scene of the day got to b Ruqaiyya making kheer with grt difficulty for Jodha 😲😲😆 .. Hope she does not swing like a pendulum again if Jalal compliments only Jodha for the food and not her 😆 .. Better Jalal compliment everyone in this case 😆

Precap looks interesting with Jalal in teasing nad naughty mood 😛 but I guess nothing much will happen other than what we saw in precap 😆 .. so not much hopes there ...

Overall a good light hearted episode before the next storm of Atga's death I guess 🤔


Jyoti, I like your point of view on Adham. If we look at his mother through his eyes, he will feel very bad, especially since childhood she herself has made a differentiation of Jalal and Adham. Not only that, she is still saying Jalal should not be killed even after she has been caught disgracefully and been put in prison by Jalal.
A lot of the wrong hopes given to Adham that he will get the takht is all Maham's doing. How could she have been so wrong in misdirecting his ambitions?
And the other thing that Maham has actively done is to kill his own initiative in making decisions. She always said "Wait, you don't do anthing, you don't have the brains or shrewdness for anything, listen to me and I will tell you what to do!" Won't any boy who keeps on hearing that now think "At last my mother's shadow is not on me and I can now do whatever I like" and he may go overboard and berserk because he is simply unaware or with eyes closed to the consequences of his actions?
Where has he ever been allowed to make any decisions and suffer the consequences so that he can learn from experience?
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