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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Ya mansi, I agree that they cannot remove every tiny detail. But at least the prominent ones like rukaiya miscarriage and putting the blame on jodha ,the Dhaka, which I so badly want to be known to jalal and killing of bairam khan. All these things are critical and they have to come out. Unless these things come out, I donot think that Maham's character can be brought to a close, and I doubt that the cvs will do that since they are obsessed with vamps, especially maham, then followed by ruks. So it's just a tiny request, please ask about these things when you call zee the next time and do post on your thread.


Regarding BK's killing, during Salima's wedding to him...a voice over did say that Jalal had an inkling of MA being behind BK's death and to protect Salima and Rahim from the mother- son duo he married her.
Of miscarriages...I think historically too, Akbar came to know of it either when Maham was on her deathbed or after her death
Dhakka fiasco...the letter is destroyed...Jodha deduced Maham's role much later, after she returned from Amer, when she got to know that Akbar was illiterate ...and they've moved on...if it again comes up, only Jodha can tell him.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
Hi..First of all Happy Birthday Mansi. May god bless you always.
Finally i'm with my laptop. Thanks for your tread which i read everyday to catch up the story. Have not watched yet😭. But going around the forum shows it was a wonderful epi. Are Cv's going through the forum? 😆

Well its good that JJ are together. I think seeing fake Jalal being dead and seeing him alive actually must have washed away Jodha's hurt and pain. That is why it is important for jo to witness the end drama. And Jalal 👏 you did your best. The plan itself is good but he should have made it less painful for Jo. There is alot of way to show separation than hurting her but its a learning process. And he still not sure who is to be trusted. His justifications are acceptable. Of all thing both talk it out and moved on by not carrying the past in heart. "The more anger you carry towards past in your Heart.. the less capable you are of living in present."

Now Maham Anga, the best vamp in JA. Many thought last plan is stupid. But it is actually a brilliant one. Her aim is to dethrone Jalal. She used a seductress to trap him. She did not want him to fall in love with atifa or get married but only to have a physical relationship. That is why Hamam scene and undressing scene. Just mere hugging, telling romantic lines or even marrying her does not amount to adultery. The religious people opposed cause the marriage cannot be valid at all. And this marriage is Jalal's drama which made Atifa and geng to make mistake and also made maham helpless towards the end. She did not aspect it will go till nikah. But why must it be Married woman. Coz than only it will be adultery. He is king who can have any woman but not an already married one. So maham planned. But her huge mistake is failing to see the suddenness of Jalal's changes. She must have been very happy that the plan is working but not completing. That is why she said to adham to wait and see that day. Now that writing how maham must have planned, it just showed that jalal had actually check mated her with brilliance. His only minus is somehow make sure Jodha was not extremely hurt. Well done Jalal. Sad that Atga Sahab is going. But is it really maham going?(cv's love her) i doubt it coz she might play her last dirty game to that revenge for Adham's dead. Till now she does not want jalal dead but after Adham's dead any ounce of love for jalal will vanish. Here Ruks might be partner in crime.



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Posted: 11 years ago
#53
Hi Mansi, how was yest? party blast?? cakes, and treats, and gifts??? 🤗 i wished i was with u to celebrate...chal, next year...

agree with u...indeed much better episode than that of thursday... but just like their other tracks , the end of this track also again rushed off... firstly they dragged unnecessarily, and finally they wrapped it in haste... many issues unsolved and many questions unanswered... he caught MA, he exposed her in front of all, it was shown very good... but giving punishment to her was not satisfying...i wished he asks Atga to present her in DEK like a criminal and questions her there for many past issues still unanswered... he declares his suspicions on those issues in past and i m sure, she herself would have accepted all her crimes , shocking everybody... that would have been much better to watch...

Even CB rescue was rushed... just by chance he and atga find CB and release her... no...not at all convincing... after dragging so much of that Atifa issue, and seeing the TRPs going to ever low point, CVs just rushed to the end of this track in most unconvincing manner... MA had a big role in his life... the track showing her end should have been better...coz one question was always in my mind... MA was seeing him deeply in love with Jo... why she played Atifa card??? how can she be so sure he will fall for it???? if she really knew him so well, how she never understood the real change in him??

anyway, i think, Ekta must have given CVs ultimatum to get top TRPs by end of this week, and so they did what they felt best way to do...

and regards Jo and Jalal scene, then i loved it when she stayed mum after he asked her how she could not trust him... coz next moment , it seems he knew the answer to his question, that she never mistrust him... rather she trusted him more than anything, and that was the reason she was so hurt, coz she believed every single word of hatred was true, only coz he had said it... it's like any of his word is becoming fact of life for her...

and yes, he seems to understand that... coz just some time before, she asked him if he never really hated her, and just when he said no, she seemed to be reassured by just his word and his hug... she didn't need much persuation or apology for those harsh words... she was content coz that much she trust him, that she holds every word of his to be the truth... and so next moment , he himself put her to rest by saying he will love her till last breath, and so not that will always be fact of life for her... she won't need any more reassurance from him...she knows she got back what was hers, that his heart belongs to only and only hers... and that is enough for Jo to stay alive...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Beautiful Take Mansi...😃
Hope this year all your wishes get fulfilled by God's grace...😊
Not able to write much as I am busy with my Project and Examinations

I am happy that this track is over. CVs have chosen a very smart way to get back their TRPs..
Loved Jodha-Jalal interaction😳. Overall the episode was good. The scenes after Maham's Bhandaphod were Simple, yet effective...

I am sad to bid adieu to our beloved Atgaah Sahab.😭.He was such a pure and influential personality in Jalal's life...Losing someone like that is really unbearable😭. I would definitely miss him..

I am looking forward to proper wrapping up of all tracks from now atleast before introducing new ones, probably the LEAP(?)😕

I would love to see the gathering up of all the Navratnas of Jalal's court. And for Godsake some good stuff.

I would love to see a different Jodha, with a new audha ,a new look, a new dignity and aura of MARIAM UZ ZAMANI(No problem even they show it lately, but atleast one from my wishlist ) and some TEDHAPAN 😉.
Edited by lasyap3 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55
Many more happy returns of the day...Mansi..! 🤗
May this day brings u lots of happiness and successful mission throughout your life..🥳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi...Happy Birthday once again...🤗hope u enjoyed your birthday with your family...see, CVs gave u a beautiful birthday gift!😳

I am in complete agreement with you..🤗 beautiful❤️

Jalal-Maham Anga- aaj Jalal ne doodh ka karz utar hi diya...aur jiss tarha se ussne utara...kabil-e-tareef mere Shehenshah...👏👏he refrained his doodh maa committing any sins henceforth! wah! lajawaab!👏
Maham Anga tried her last card to escape that she was doing all this for awam, and what googly Jalal threw! he was ready with all his cards...he was waiting for her to say one word and there he goes...kya bolu main! Jalal bowled me over!

Jalal-Ladies- what a graceful man he is...! he apologized to everyone and also spoke one by one..kaise karta hai Jalal yeh sab?? hairat mein sal deta hai woh mujhe...every time with his this nature he makes me fall for him more..❤️I can never be De-Jalalfied!❤️ Loved how he kept staring at Jodha till she vanishes...Jodha couldnt hold her happiness and ran to her Kanha to thank Him...she was a proud and blessed wife for having a husband like him and his mohabbatfor her. I loved Paridhi's expressions here...it was beautiful.❤️

Jalal-Jodha- finishing his maafi thing to everyone, he knew where he had to go, to his love whom he hurt most in this whole fiasco, he didnt waste any single moment and marched on to her hojra, and found her thanking Kanha and feeling content of his love for her...❤️
"Jodha Begum" he called her with all the love in his voice...
she shivered, she broke down into tears..."Inn Ankhon Mein Tum" in BG...they look into each other's eyes..
Jalal couldnt hold himself back, he just pulled her in his arms, both cried their hearts out and soothed each other's pain...how much they craved for this! Jalal confessed this at the very first touch of her...
Loved how Jodha started her rants, she looked like a baby yearning for his love...Jalal too pacified her and also soothed his own wounded heart..when she said, "aap ne jo kaha woh sab sach toh nahi hai na?" "aap humse rusht toh nahi the naa?" and he kept nodding no...awww how beautiful these two r! he admitted he was upset with her during Khaibar fiasco, but that is only bcz she was endangering her life and all he cares is of her life! he explained beautifully why he didnt include her in his plan...he was justified...his voice was so adorable then...pyaar pyaar aur bahut pyaar tha...❤️
they were cuddling...this sight reminded me of morning after scene...as if it was their new birth...Jalal was not in mood to let go of her..after all he was holding her in his arms after so many days...he just wants to keep her near his heart...Jodha too was reluctant to go but thinking of "sab kya sochenge" she got up😆 loved Jalal's reaction..."jo sochna hai sohne do"..😉
his shayeri on mohabbat was to die for! loved his teasing using Atifa.😆 he knows how much Jodha Begum hates her...😉
And then recalling the dreadful event, that one lone tear falls down his cheek, Jodha wipes it off and smiles looking at him, he smiles her back...there is no pain, no loneliness when they r together...❤️

precap: Atgah's death is near...Adham is furious..I am gonna miss Atgah a lot...😭but I am happy that this great man is going with utmost respect!👏

Perfect post, Tamy, and thanks for your good wishes!
From the number of heart smileys in your post I can tell how moved you are with the whole episode. Your descriptions of the scenes is very evocative of the scenes themselves. Feels like we're watching the episode. I too liked Jalal referring to his poetic speech coming from experience with Atifa! Good one!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
happy birthday Mansi😊
beautiful analysis of a beautiful episode👏
I can't express how happy I am after watching yesterday's epi...everything sorted out in a very nice way n we got our Akdha back with more love
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Posted: 11 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi, Mansi, Good Analysis, 😃 Happy Birthday Dear,😆 So Party time,🥳


Episode was interesting +Good, & i liked it.

Yesterday Day, was full of Jalal, how he performed, As A king, As A Son (with Atgha ), (HB )
& as a Husband, every where, he proved him right own.👏 👏 👏 👏.


As A King Jalal.

1, A king have many duties +responsibilties, but one duty, which is Big, some time Secreat Mission, which got jalal this time. & he sucessfully completed this, & achieved, his Mission,
& culprits are standing in front of him.( but cause of this mission he has lost, Many realtions, now time to , console them.

a,;;As A king, Maham is front of him.who did again, Chall, & ( cause is Jodha,) when a person does name of other, but doing on cheating, how much he or she fooling others.

b;;;,Maham own neeed, Dalhi takhat, for AK, A lot of crimes did by Maham, but she Wants A king, who only listen her & will complete her desires, because, she is her DOODH -MOTHER,

is Maham knows the meaning of Doodh Mother.?
is she forgot Ruk, MC track, (long lists) ?

c ;; All should be know, By Jalal, but CB point, noticed by Jalal.


d ;; He asked, Maham, which punishment, he can give You.

, Liked, When Maham said Death, she knows, Death Gets for this crime, but Jalal not did, Death, But Punishement goes, to Worst, if we compare to Death. (,Because, Maham Role was imp to brought-up jalal reason maybee differnt,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But jalal shows here, little Dignity,
But he gave tight class to Maham;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Jalal is researching own, when a lady brought up a child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How can she reach, a Lowest Level.


Atfifa, Point.

1, She is also in jail, Many points, remains to investgation , so Atifa will tell, its necessary, so punishment was Right.

2, Jalal cleard all conflicts, its Good. Why he gave Atifa importance, +because its need of Time.

3, Liked, Jalal not leave respect to others, Tensen point Fb scene clears it. Jalal requested Tensen, Great,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️👏 👏

4, Jalal +Atgha bonding clearly showed, & how much realtionship growth in this realtion,
how they completed eachother. How Agra is also safe, in Atgha,'s protection,👏 👏
+then but this protection will leave now, Agra +Main jalal, Jalal have to face, Big pain in life, First, Atgha +then childs. ;;;;;;;;;;;;Sad for Atgha, +jalal😭 😭

5 so Atgha , found CB, but Cv should more clear this scene.

6, Because Atgha is Strength, of Jalal so Ak broke this strength of Jalal, same Maham did, only wants monoply. Both got Maham +Ak, tight punishment, but both deserve that.

7, Liked jalal +Atgha scene, when they were, Watching as CID, Atifa +her husband, creations.

Jalal as a Son.

so jalal is awared, cause of Atifa investgation, he hurted Many realtions, so now time to heel-up that realtions.

1, jalal first who was jallad, not knows others feelings, now he knows, what did he wrong, or what is imp, now, how mush this man is changed, he understand feelings, & wants, now things will be smooth, this a Great-Change in his personality, because we saw past, jodha was sleeping outside, Fathpur sikri trip;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so changing is coming in Jalal, he is improving, & progressing in the way of Good-humanbeing.,its good thing of his character.


2 First he speaked sorry to HB, Mother Heart always Broad, She guess, when child speaks, she understands quickely, child problems, so Heart feeling, contact to Mother Child, & all reamaining things happens in sielance, so HB forgave jalal, full Mother dignity Way.


3, He speaked sorry to Salima, & convinced, How she & her adviced is imp for him, yes this time circumstances were different, so she forgave him;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;if a King bow down, & accepts his mistakes,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;front of wives,👏 👏, No Male +husband type Igo can't do this,
jalal only wants now things should be normalise, now, What a wife accept, from his husband, its a great thing,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Husband's not speak easily sorry in front of wife.😆 😆 so clapping for Jalal.👏 👏

4, He speaked Sorry to Ruk, but liked in friendship manner. we say friends, i forgave you many times now your turn,😆 😆, but Advice for Ruk, she should learn this quality from jalal.😆 😆, because;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;we all know Ruk internally,😉


5, After listening, our Jodhu got emotional, & she came back to Her kanha, i think, jalal also says sorry to jodha in front of others, but jodha got emotional, & came back, because, couple faced a lot past days cause of Atifa, or they need a Extra talk. Because if jalal speaks, in front of others, he also Breaks -ups, , now he can't hold in front of jodha.

For ex, child breaks up in front of Mother, But when realtioonship, going to be healthy, then man breaks up in front of Wife. so Both needed, some space-eachother shoulder, & both provided to eachother.⭐️ ⭐️👏 👏


a,, couple understanding, now Heart-Level, emotions will sure come, so they needed, some private space, (which we always wait ), but Cv created yesterday, Private space,

b Liked, couple inpatience hug,How they missed eachother, No way, can, console them, only 🤗 can console them, so Cv showed 🤗

c, i liked, jodha words, which you said to me Last days, Not from your Heart, how much jodha Heart-was in pain last days, but , jalal little words, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Got our jodhu, Anmol khazna.
Actually, she was not problem with Atifa, she not clearing own, Why jalal saying theses words to me,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;What falut did by Me ? Or jalal is doing, because jodha should be save, from Atifa,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so both suffered this Pain.

d,, liked, Jalal own said, he knows, how he gave pain to dear, jodhu, & now he will Cure this pain from Own Love;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Cv going to be Romantic,, yes jodha pain only be console by Love Only.

e, Eid scene was good.

F, HB +Atgha +Ms scene was good. so MS duty will be more precious in coming episodes, after Atgha Death.

Sleeping scene.

Yesterday, lottory was opened by CV, so after Sr, we got sleeping scene.😆 😆😉,

1,liked Jodha was very comfortable with jalal,

2, Her open hairs were saying, Creation of jalal's naughtiness,😉,

3, Little flirting of Jalal was good,😆 😆

4, Liked, when he asked, why she not trusted, this time on Jalal,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but this thing will make coming episode, Trust Ladder, which will reach their realtion in healthy, Jone.👏

👏

5,Liked he insurred, jodha till the end of his life, he will love Jodha,;;;;;;;;;so after so much pain;;;;;;;;;;;jodha can fly now,😆 😆


(Rashmi, you demand song , ;, So from me this song )

1 " Mil gaye Mil gaye AAj more Sajan, Aaj, more nahi hee Jammi par kadam."


6, Liked jodha, words to jalal " you are asking, me, yee too ulti bat hoo gayi," 😉

7,Liked How jodha, , Wipe up-jalal tears, cause of Maham which came, sometime, our Heart, not accepts, this person can do such a cheap-work.

so episode was full fantastic,⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

one song more;

Humm jab, simit kee app kee baho mee aa gaye, lakho hasin khyab nigaho mee aa gaye.



Ayushi, loved your post! Beautiful! Completely agree with your reasons why it was better that Jalal did not say sorry to Jodha in front of his mother and other wives, but he followed her to her room and there he said sorry with the hug which could not have been done in front of others! Those lines I marked in blue are really clever thinking from you!
And yes we won the lottery yesterday with the sleeping scene!😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: karishma.s

Ya mansi, I agree that they cannot remove every tiny detail. But at least the prominent ones like rukaiya miscarriage and putting the blame on jodha ,the Dhaka, which I so badly want to be known to jalal and killing of bairam khan. All these things are critical and they have to come out. Unless these things come out, I donot think that Maham's character can be brought to a close, and I doubt that the cvs will do that since they are obsessed with vamps, especially maham, then followed by ruks. So it's just a tiny request, please ask about these things when you call zee the next time and do post on your thread.

I have given katti to the Zee man!😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi..First of all Happy Birthday Mansi. May god bless you always.

Finally i'm with my laptop. Thanks for your tread which i read everyday to catch up the story. Have not watched yet😭. But going around the forum shows it was a wonderful epi. Are Cv's going through the forum? 😆

Well its good that JJ are together. I think seeing fake Jalal being dead and seeing him alive actually must have washed away Jodha's hurt and pain. That is why it is important for jo to witness the end drama. And Jalal 👏 you did your best. The plan itself is good but he should have made it less painful for Jo. There is alot of way to show separation than hurting her but its a learning process. And he still not sure who is to be trusted. His justifications are acceptable. Of all thing both talk it out and moved on by not carrying the past in heart. "The more anger you carry towards past in your Heart.. the less capable you are of living in present."

Now Maham Anga, the best vamp in JA. Many thought last plan is stupid. But it is actually a brilliant one. Her aim is to dethrone Jalal. She used a seductress to trap him. She did not want him to fall in love with atifa or get married but only to have a physical relationship. That is why Hamam scene and undressing scene. Just mere hugging, telling romantic lines or even marrying her does not amount to adultery. The religious people opposed cause the marriage cannot be valid at all. And this marriage is Jalal's drama which made Atifa and geng to make mistake and also made maham helpless towards the end. She did not aspect it will go till nikah. But why must it be Married woman. Coz than only it will be adultery. He is king who can have any woman but not an already married one. So maham planned. But her huge mistake is failing to see the suddenness of Jalal's changes. She must have been very happy that the plan is working but not completing. That is why she said to adham to wait and see that day. Now that writing how maham must have planned, it just showed that jalal had actually check mated her with brilliance. His only minus is somehow make sure Jodha was not extremely hurt. Well done Jalal. Sad that Atga Sahab is going. But is it really maham going?(cv's love her) i doubt it coz she might play her last dirty game to that revenge for Adham's dead. Till now she does not want jalal dead but after Adham's dead any ounce of love for jalal will vanish. Here Ruks might be partner in crime.



Thanks so much for your wishes!
You've done a sensational job of analysing exactly what went wrong with Maham's plan! Really good thinking! Wow!

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