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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

writing from mobile... thanks Mansi...and don't take Atifa in begum dress more seriously... even Ben has started using Begum dress and nose ring after Jalal had declared to marry her...


diksha,have u seen that post in main forum there it was shown an actress(1 of begums of jalal) shared off screen pic with writing *had a nice day with rukaya begum n atifa begum*! Atifa begum! Why did she write atifa as begum?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hely

superb analysis di

A king can break and make any rule...fine
bet are CVs trying to say that a king is above the laws of nature???? What nonsense

Yes, the king is above all the laws. this was pronounced by Maham earlier when the maulvis objected him bending in front of Kalimaa ka murthy and asked him to vacat his throne (During Sukanya's wedding sequence)
as far as I've see jalal in this show, he's a god fearing man and loves Allah alot so why would he break gods rules and get married to a woman that belong to someone else by all laws???
We need to dissect his words to pick the meaning. He not just said he will marry Atifa ( a married woman), he even went ahead and said even if her husband doesn't divorce her. See he is trying to include some clause / clash here by putting in the words divorce which is not even thought off at the moment. So he wants to show the world that Atifa is ready to marry him by divorcing her husband and show that her interest was in him (to dethrone Jalal) and said he is ready to give up his throne and crown for her.

CVs want are you guys doing to this man jalal is acting like brainless creature

Jalal is showing too much of brain and only thing we need to see through his face and words and analyze.
even if jalal is orienting to be in love with papita

did he ever think what impact going to be in jodha's health under these circumestances , jodha doesnt even have rest for two days after what she hone thru and now this news, jalal doesn't know what is going on in his saltant

Jalal thinks his special wives and ministers are with brain and will realize there is something which is going behind the scenes and they need to stay put and watch it rather than spoiling it. he wants to be assured that whether the planned attack is on him or on Jodha as even if the enemy kill him, they will not get the throne as Jodha is carrying his heir in her womb. So even if he step down from the throne now, as he may have declared, the others have no chance to claim the throne, be it Nigar or Mirza or Adham or Sharif or even if it is Mahachuchak. Unless they harm Jodha and destroy the kids in her womb, they can't succeed in getting the Mughal taqth. So he is trying to check whoever is the person , who is ready to cause damage, whether their target is Jalal or Jodha. For that he is putting himself as the guinea pig.
I feel like taking Jalal and cook him alive into those big royal cooking pots into royal kitchen.

NO, please don't cook him right now, as it is he is completely baked between his adventurous job.😊



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok one random thought, if Maan Singh discovers the surang going to Jodha's hojara - ideally Jalal should keep guards there hidden to know if anybody else knows about this surang.

Also what is stopping Jalal from visiting Jodha via surang and sharing everything with her? Won't that be fun - fighting outwardly but at night Jalal goes to Jodha's hojara via surang! 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi, I watched the episode on repeat also, cos first time watching was interrupted so missed few clues.

This is going to be a long rambling post. 😆

I think this is going to be double whammy track. Jalal is after the masterminds of this track but I think so far he thinks of Atifa as harmless pawn. I think Jodha and SB might go after Atifa now.

That a distinct possibility now!👏👏👏

Firstly the DEK scene about reasons for marriage was Jodha's dream. She closed her eyes when he said their marriage for political reasons and opened them in her hojara and then she walked out to meet Jalal.
Maddy, I saw the repeat many times but I am still not getting the feeling its a dream!!!!😲😲

Ruk is worried not cos Jalal is going to marry Atifa but cos if he is proven doing jinakari then he will lose his takht and if he does not remain Shehenshah then Ruk does not remain BEK simple fact for her.

All the clues I got from yesterday's episode - Jalal had listened very carefully to Jodha's apology to everybody - see his face - he seemed satisfied by it. Jalal called Ruk and asked her question to stop her going after Jodha more.

When Jalal asked Ruk about Atifa, he avoided looking into Ruk's eyes while Ruk had an intent look on her face. She was looking at his reaction and Ruk seemed satisfied that even after bringing Jodha back and spending some away time with Jodha, Jalal is still interested in Atifa. Ruk gave a satisfied look and told him to rest. BTW Ruk did NOT tell Jalal about Atifa's husband come to take her back? Why not? Cos should Ruk not want to tell him just this to send him to Atifa to ask her what happened?

Maddy, this is a brilliant point!

Now Jalal Atifa scene - Atifa is getting bolder cos she openly asked him about Jodha - Atifa said all bandis are saying Jodha rules Jalal's heart. Did you notice - Jalal did NOT NEGATE her - rather he replied Jodha is "aham" to him and also his responsibility. Then Jalal warded off Atifa by saying he only gets sukoon in her presence and Jodha's actions cause him to get angry with her.

Nowhere in this scene, Jalal negated loving Jodha, he also did not say he loves Atifa now.

Yup that is true!

Next clue was Zakira saying Atifa has something in her eyes she reminded her of Benzir. Look at Jodha and SB's reaction to this statement of Zakira. Both Jodha and SB looked stunned to hear this and they realized in all this they have only given thought to Jalal, nobody has paid any attention to Atifa at all.

When Atifa sent message to Jalal in DEK, this was another act of hers to test if her effect on Jalal is still the same. Why send message in DEK when her husband was to come at night? She could have waited!

Jalal was angry with her and said she is forgetting her aukat and he just listened to what all she said about her husband. Jalal did not say a word to Atifa not did he even give any assurance that he will look into this, he just walked off.

Then he declared marriage with Atifa on Eid. The next DEK scene was Jodha's dream and it did not happen for real.

So Jalal has just announced marriage with Atifa in DEK and he is ready to face anything for that.

Now my prediction for the track

I think now Jalal is getting bored with pretending to Atifa. He might have been in Atifa's spell or whatever at first but somewhere he realized what is happening and started pretending.

I think the tent night with Jodha is what triggered his rushing along the plot. Jalal realized how miserable he and Jodha are and that is why he rushed to Atifa and then the marriage announcement. He wants to end this fast.

Maddy, I agree he seems to want to end this fast. I also got that definite oimpression as I have written in my post!

I think Jalal might have wondered at why he is reacting to Atifa this way but later pretending. Jalal might be thinking that Atifa is a mere pawn. Maybe Jalal saw Atifa and her husband talk and learnt that he is a KS and there is no risk to his throne. This is why he made the announcement to speed up things.

Jalal is after the big fish who have plotted this plot.

While hearing Zakira's words Jodha and SB might start thinking. Maybe now Jodha and SB will pay more attention to Atifa. Jalal is thinking about plot against Jodha but he might be unguarded about plot against him esp if he thinks Atifa is a pawn and harmless.

While Jodha and SB might find out some truth about Atifa with help from Zakira.

What if suppose this is Ruk/Ma/Nigar/SD whoever's plan they are NOT aware of Atifa's real identity also. So Atifa might be playing a pawn to them but actually playing another game of hers.

So it could be that both Jalal and Jodha/SB do their own separate investigation now.

There is going to be either an actual marriage or atleast bhandafod on Eid on the marriage day. We have seen picture of Jalal dressed in Sehra but in yesterday's marriage happened scene he did not wear one.

I think Jalal will speed up the allegations and might prove in DEK that Atifa's husband is a KS and he did not commit any jinakari AFTER he has uncovered the real culprit.

While it might happen that Atifa secret is discovered later.
Maddy, I agree with your prediction being a good possibility. But I think that it will not come as near to a real marriage as it came in the Ben track because that would be like a repeat of an old track. That sera on Jalal's head may be the dream of Jodha - the fear of marriage happening - but till now that DEK scene was not Jodha's dream ... that is my feeling. See there is ambivalence even in Atga's dialogue in the so called "marriage-happened" DEK scene. It is not cut and dried proof of a marriage happened!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Ok one random thought, if Maan Singh discovers the surang going to Jodha's hojara - ideally Jalal should keep guards there hidden to know if anybody else knows about this surang.

Also what is stopping Jalal from visiting Jodha via surang and sharing everything with her? Won't that be fun - fighting outwardly but at night Jalal goes to Jodha's hojara via surang! 😆


what is stopping them? CVs. 😆 It would be 100 times better to watch if they were both in cahoots...but do we ever get a gripping story? No. We get a lot of screaming in the DEK.


But with Jo's dream about the DEK ... it does show that this is about saving the Sultanate now and Jo's viewpoint is this and only this. So there's a good chance she will be saving the day like in the Ben track. I just want the plot revealed now. Dying to know how all this tied together..hope CVs remember to tell a logical (what am I saying) story.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chembi

Hi nice analysis it could be jo's dream watch carefuly apart from jo dress there is change in everybody's dress and in precap jalal's dress is matched with 1st dek scene dress and how can he place his hands in atifa's shoulder tht 2 in dek and and i agree with the thing u said about urdu and most importantly remember jalal's big dream of kissing jo and 2 be kissed by jo anything possible in this serial's dream.

Oh my God, this is getting even more confusing!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Ok one random thought, if Maan Singh discovers the surang going to Jodha's hojara - ideally Jalal should keep guards there hidden to know if anybody else knows about this surang.

Also what is stopping Jalal from visiting Jodha via surang and sharing everything with her? Won't that be fun - fighting outwardly but at night Jalal goes to Jodha's hojara via surang! 😆

Maddy, he is her husband😆😆, not a lover boy and more over neither Jodha's nor Jalal's rooms have doors and anyone can drop in at any moment. So all the risk he took in creating the atmosphere of neglecting Jodha will go into drain, the moment some one spots him in her room. But for sure, Atifa's room will have doors and also lock.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

Ok one random thought, if Maan Singh discovers the surang going to Jodha's hojara - ideally Jalal should keep guards there hidden to know if anybody else knows about this surang.

Also what is stopping Jalal from visiting Jodha via surang and sharing everything with her? Won't that be fun - fighting outwardly but at night Jalal goes to Jodha's hojara via surang! 😆

Awww ...😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy I know the dialogues sounded like marriage already happened, but still I feel that cannot be Jo's dream. How will she put so much perfect Urdu in her dream?


Mansi, it was a dream, and of course she would dream about then speaking in chaste Urdu only na...not otherwise, after all they talk in urdu only...it would have been so out, even for Jodha imagining Jalal, maulavis, etc. speaking in Hindi like her. There's nothing weird in her dreams where Jalal and all are speaking in Urdu.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi yes it was a dream cos dialogues clearly stated Jalal had married Atifa. That is why she was in the blue new dress! It was Jodha's reaction/dream and now that even Ruk is feeling the same that this action of Jalal's will be risk to his takht then Jodha SB might start paying attention to Atifa after Zakira's warning. There was no need to make Zakira say this otherwise.

Jodha closing her eyes in DEK and opening them after the dream. Just imagine IF the marriage is already happened and Jalal has abdicated his throne by giving his sword and crown to Kazis - WHY would Jodha go to talk with Jalal and Ruk also about he can't do this.

If it was not a dream then Jalal HAS ALREADY ABDICATED HIS TAKHT! The maulavis took his sword and crown and then the dialogues.

Yes it was Jodha's dream. CVs put it to make Jodha aware of the implications of Jalal's actions. So far it was only about Jalal's attraction for Atifa which Jodha learnt just the night of the kidnapping and now back she is going to give more attention to Atifa and so is SB!

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