does jodha love jalal enough? - Page 18

Originally posted by: skandi

nice post...but trust me people are still justifying what jodha did is rite...because akbar ran behind atifa he has no right to ask jodha about her soft corner for khy...what a logic...🤣...why are not everyone getting that jodha was not only wife of him, he married other after jodha and had kids also. In 16th century where men had more wives than one, people are not still getting that it is not 21st century that women was liberal to do anything but in that century women had lot of restrictions when comes to marriage. Precap was lovely when akbar asked her in the process of saving one guy she made suffering of so many guards, villagers, etc...now even i want to know how this is justified...khy may be innocent or not it is not the concern but he came to kill a king who is above all and that he should be punished...no one ever thought what if khy not came when dakooo attacked jodha what would happen of her and her kids ????...2 days she suffered so much of pain and troubles and still she is safe with kids ??? how is this...and on that people think akbar should not scream on her ????...even if in this century a women risk her life in this condition any husband would have taken charge of her...kuch toh logic hoo yaar...

Originally posted by: sun29

and Ela he does love her unconditionally...he may have his flaws but jahaan baat jodha ki aathi hai he has put everything at risk for her every time...and this is an Emperor we are talking about not our next door wala cute boy or college crush...hence bahut badhi baat hothi hai...and uske aur uske poore family ki reputation is in mud right now...and phir bhi dekh lena woh kya kartha hai to save hers...there is going to be a very solid reson for ruqaiyya to want and try harm jodha ...

Originally posted by: chitterati

For all her flaws and recent lack of sensibility - there is no question on how deeply she loves him.

If you feel the need to ask this question in light of KZ issue, look at it this way she loves him enough to bear his wrath and question him when SHE thinks he is wrong.

We all have our idiosyncrasies, and we try to do the best we can for those we love based on our level of maturity and we give what we can offer, even if thats not what is needed by our loved one. For my sons birthday i got him a toy he desperately had his eyes on, on our way back home i sprained my leg and tears welled up, what i needed was a balm, but all that my son had to offer was that toy, and he did - can i say he doesnt love me enough, or should i say he loves me too much to give me the only thing he could!

No one can ever love Jalal enough, he is that lovable. But yes Jodha does love Jalal as much as she is capable of, and that is enough for Jalal.

Originally posted by: chitterati

the KZ, Atifa track sure is a conversation starter... we have a thread on Does Jo love Jalal enough, we have another one on does Jalal love Jo enough and yet another one on Jo and Jalal love each other equally.

Jo Ja ka toh pata nahin but forum waasis surely do have enough love for them

Originally posted by: ngayou

Hi, Mandy, great write up 😊 . I believe both Jallu & Jodha definitely love each other equally(can love be measured). Some might believe Jallu loves more bcos we ve been shown him changing himself so much & doing many things to please Jodha. But on Jodha s side, her thoughts & actions have never been properly highlighted & its left to the viewers to put our own understanding on it. But for me personally, Jo also loves Jalal very much though she might not show it out the way Jalal does.

In my personal opinion, just because Jalal gets angry & shouts on Jodha for any mistakes, his love for her doesn't get negated nor does it vanish just like that either. Same way, if Jodha defies Jallu s words sometimes & does what she thinks is right doesn't mean she loves Jalal any lesser. These are just their personal flaws which are their strengths too sometimes.

But it doesn't mean I endorse what Jodha did in Khybu s case either. I hope she learns to think about other POVs too & why what she thinks is right might not always be right for everyone else. And being reham dil is nice & good too but only to a certain extent. And she also needs to realise that she has bigger responsibilities towards herself & others being a Begum & conduct herself accordingly.

Same way, I don't like Jatifa either & Jallu s OTTness towards her. But I trust Jallu s upto something professing sudden mohabbat to her. I also think he went overboard being harsh to Jodha wrt Atifa, but well, CVs want it that way it seems 😕 . If this turns out as another Ben track (am sure it wont 😉 ), then I wont spare Jalal either for his digression with his papita bcos , all said & done about it being a polygamous 16th century setup ( I really cant understand their mindset then) , but we r after all from 21st century 😆

Originally posted by: sashashyam

It was a lovely line by Ela, Mandy dearest, though you have not got it right. All I did was to tell her how much I loved it.

As for this dissertation about Jalal and Jodha, I am afraid I can no longer muster any enthusiasm for it. In fact, I am surprised to see you still indulging in this kind of stuff. But since you have made this post, let me think of something to say about your topic.

shyamala, i am so happy to see you grace my thread🤗..hum sab paagal hain..we are addicted to the nonsense i suppose😆

Jodha is primarily in love with her image of herself. All else comes second. She has the gall to assume that just because Jalal has come personally to rescue her, all is well between them. Even then, she starts lecturing him Shahenshah, baat ko samajne ka prayas kijiye..

i could not stop laughing when she said baat ko samjhiye..and if i was jalal i would have said kya samjhun ke mera kis bewakoof se paala para hai😆

Her apologies are always qualified about her mansha being good - apparently no one has told her that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And when she is between a rock and a hard place, as when Jalal berates her about the soldiers killed by Khyber, she simply lowers her eyes and keeps quiet.

😆..i guess she has no sympathy for poor sipahis maybe they were not nirdosh praani in her eyes

Tonight, because Jalal holds her hand when he hears the speculation in the crowd, Jodha is once again preening herself assuming that all is well. Jalal does is as much for his own sake as hers, he cannot have it said that the mother of the children he is to have is not paksaaf.

poor jalal cannot even punish her!

I suppose Jodha must be familiar with the Ramayana, and how Lord Rama treated Sita, though her kidnapping was not her fault, except that she crossed the Lakshmanrekha taking Ravana to be a rishi. She had to go thru an agniparisksha, and then again, because a dhobi made a loose comment about her character, Rama had a pregnant Sita abandoned in the forest.

true and here we have our great jalal who accepted her even after hearing that she and khybu slept in the same hut and not only that he saw her clothes hanging in the same hut..and then her runiong away from villagers with khybu..how much more insult!

It is a pity Jalal does not know the Ramayana, but Jodha should thank her lucky stars that she has not married the likes of Lord Rama,. In fact, in a 16th century royal family, a wife who behaved as Jodha does, and spent days on end wandering around the countryside with a strange man, would never have been taken back. The scandal would have been horrendous and not even a Shahenshah could have weathered it.

Ok, this is it about Jodha Akbar from me for a good long time to come!

Shyamala

Originally posted by: NATURESHIVANI

Well on this time jodha is responsible for the things she is handling n the passion of jalal to find jodha somewhere is being proved that he is acting with atifa

Originally posted by: mnr123

Great post dear 👏 u've explained both of them nicely. I think Jodha loves shehanshah in her own twisted/selfish way 😆. She doesn't express her love much n doesn't understand him much but ya she has accepted him d way he is 😳
Both Jodha n Jalaal have had different childhood where Jalaal has faced lots of hardships n he has had experiences where he has seen his near ones gng against him so he understands ppl more than Jodha. Jodha always had a protected childhood n maybe Bharmal had really pampered her a lot n hence she's so headstrong n does things that she thinks is Right. N she's right most of d times too except for Khyber Issue where she made a grave mistake in understanding other ppls plight. She just saw it from Khyber POV. She's also wrong in pardoning ppl who have committed grave mistakes but she thinks that everyone can b conquered by love n not hatred. Ya even I didn't like her apology to Akbar for Khyber fiasco but nothing much can b done abt it coz already a lot had happened. N I guess she needs to understand that being a queen is grt responsibility u can't just say I don't care what ppl think of me. If u can't justify ur own actions u can't control ur Praja nor wud u set a Gud example. Imagine tmrw some Praja comes to Akbar n says my wife ran away wid a guy hand in hand n I yelled at her but she didn't listened saying learn from Akbar n Jodha look how Akbar adjusted😆 what will that Akbar answer lol. Even in today's century when lady Diana was roaming arnd wid her bfs it's looked dwn upon it doesn't matter to ppl what husbands do it's always a lady has to suffer for her such circumstances hence it's said that ladies need to b careful in such cases.
As far as Atifa track goes ya m hating it n not liking Jalal for yelling at pregnant Jodha but instead of standing up for her own rights she's thinking of committing suicide. I m liking d way she is finally fighting for her rights in promo.

Originally posted by: PadBear

hahah just saw Shyamala Akka's comment here and really, I have to agree with it. Jo does love the idea of being this high minded person who can do no wrong. Only thing I'll add is that Jalal knows that and deals with it. Only he can handle her, only he can like her as well as love her.