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Posted: 11 years ago
Ela what about that sbb segment where she was rolling down the mud???
Will that be before jalal finds her???
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh

Khushi since the begining I have liked Jo supporting KZ...and I totally support her...yes things have gotten out of hand here but dont you feel that fault lies with Jallu also...In jungle he let KZ alive becoz Jo asked him to then why did he let SD maaring kode to KZ? Why did he not listen to Jo 's explainations?

Second time when Jallu granted life to KZ why did he put him in well and let him die a slow death...why he said no light and no full diet should reach KZ? Is not Jallu at fault her?

Jo's faults are obvious here but Jallu is eqyally at fault...

Now you say that do I react to the other ppl's point of views ? I do at times when I feel that Jo is being bashed for no reasons...we all do it at some times of our lives...


1)Ela, first of all, Rani Raja ke SAATH chalti hai...AAGE nahi...Jalal DOES NOT have to listen to Jo's explanations...BATOUR SHEHENSHAH, HE CAN TAKE HIS OWN DECISIONS...

2) supporting KZ, n releasing KZ from prison r 2 different issues...please don't confuse b/w the 2...the latter is an act of treason...

3)h Jalal wanted to WEAKEN KZ'S muscle power by less sunlight n less diet...so that he would be harmless when later released...Jalal had clearly mentioned that...

4) There is NO link b/w Jalal - Atifa & Jo KZ. ...they r 2 seperate matters...

5) here's a small tale for u...
A king with a defect in one eye & one leg asked all the painters to draw his beautiful portrait but no one was ready to draw, as how to show him beautiful with defects in one eye & a leg.
One painter however agreed and drew a classic one.
It was such a fantastic picture that every one was surprised,
He painted the king aiming for a hunt, targeting with one eye closed & a leg bent for it.
Why can't we all paint others like this, hiding their weakness & highlighting their strengths?
May we learn to hide other's weakness & bring their virtues to light.

I agree with this story to a large extent...but to hide one's weakness n highlight their virtues, we needn't do vice versa for another.

I respect your pov, & I hope you respect mine. I guess I have pretty much said what I wanted to on this issue...n am done on this topic, at least 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
Khushi rani raja ke saath chalti hai lekin yahan toh raja rani ko saath lekar nahi chal raha hai..usne toh rani ko sirf insult karne ke liye rakha hai and apne liye nayi rani dhoodh li hai.

Secondly raja ko atyachari nahi hona chahiye...and should full fill his promise. ..or he stands to loose respect among his subjects

Where you stand you find jalal correct but where i stand i find him wrong
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweetystubborn


Dhiya dear , you seem novice here , let me explain you the fonctionnement : Jodhaa whatever she does it's right and her supporters would always eye closed and ignore her mistakes and will venerate her no matter what happen ! Same unbalancement is pondering over this matter girl : Jalal stared at Atifa undressing , he is lustful , he becomes the phenomenal Yuckbar but when Jodhaa is undressing without any hesitancy and reluctance infront of Khyber , same with Khyber longingly staring at her , there Khyber becomes a true lover , Jodhaa-Khybu scenes become cute and lovely and when the same happened in one of Jatifa scenes what was the statement of most here : pukeworthy , lustful , vulgar , desperate for bed and company . . . Why this unequal and unfair treatement ? The mystery stands still . . .


I understand the sentiments here that when their fav character is not being appreciated, they defend it as it hurts them immensely. Then why the same values are not followed for other characters. I agree with the scenario you explained above. I was very angry with Jalal for what he did and i don't approve extra marital affair, and it was not a nice thing to watch. But using the words that you stated above was beyond limits...Forget about the show, respect the King he was and refrain from calling him Yuckbar.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Dhiya2

Ela, I always followed your threads been a silent reader and thought you had the most unbiased views on the Epi or the characters.

I cannot question your views and responses to some comments, where you are defending Jokhy relation and jo actions.
Wanted to let you know as your follower , I was little taken back by your reactions. I understand your anger against Jalal but it does not mean jodha can make a mistake and not follow the protocol of a Queen.
Jo khy scenes today were pathetic to watch. The way Khy was staring at Jo when she changed her clothes was Yuck...


First of all i have always had defended jo support to kz even when there was no afifa. ..I firmly believe that if someone is reforming then they should be given a chance. .

Our response to kz arise from the view of civilized society cruelty that those who are not like us should be killed. ..or separated. ...it is completely unsympathetic. ..an easy way out. .I don't support this view at all.

Again what do you mean by vulgar? Does kz really know civilized society's rules that he should leave because jo is changing. ...

Has jo in present situation any other options?
I admit that things have gone a little out of hand. .

But has jo said to kz that she has no wazood with out him and jallu is her guzra hua kal..
I fail to understand what you find vulgar?

I am sorry but I can't always post views to be in any body's good books
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Posted: 11 years ago
fans clashes 😆

dont kill me but i find it funny when Some fans judge one character on "action " level n other character on "intention" grounds. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Dhiya2

Ela, I always followed your threads been a silent reader and thought you had the most unbiased views on the Epi or the characters.

I cannot question your views and responses to some comments, where you are defending Jokhy relation and jo actions.
Wanted to let you know as your follower , I was little taken back by your reactions. I understand your anger against Jalal but it does not mean jodha can make a mistake and not follow the protocol of a Queen.
Jo khy scenes today were pathetic to watch. The way Khy was staring at Jo when she changed her clothes was Yuck...



Exactly what I wanted to say after Tuesday's thread but was hesitant as I was unsure how it will be perceived.

Since I've been following Ela's thread, I've seen/felt her as an unbiased critique but bit disappointed to see some responses to some of the comments. I agree everyone has their own POV but defending someone irrespective of their reckless act seems biased.

I'm sure Jalal has/will have no doubts on Jodha. I can see that conviction on his face. It's because he has immense faith in Jodha and her love. I understand he had failed in Sujamal's track but one should remember that Jo was the root cause for that MU and he also repented for that more than enough.

I wish Jodha had shown the same faith in him. Why can't she trust his decision for once and just stay quiet? What was the need to release Khyber going against her husband, risking her own kids' lives? If she feels gratitude towards him, she has already saved him twice.

Has she not thought of the implications of releasing a prisoner? Is she expecting Jalal just to understand and forgive her? Then, isn't she taking his love and being a queen for granted?

I too like JO a lot but don't like her stubbornness, impulsiveness and over confidence that she is always right.

I'm one amongst the people who believe in Jalal's love and that he is only pretending. Having said that, I can also understand the reactions of those who believe that Jalal is really attracted to Atifa. However, what I fail to understand is Jo being justified just because Jalal is wrong and the comparisons who are more wrong. Also, I'm surprised at how Khyber's love (?) is even being compared with Jalal's love for Jodha or considered greater than Jalal's.

Hope Ela you wouldn't mind my comments as a follower of your threads.


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Nilarani



Exactly what I wanted to say after Tuesday's thread but was hesitant as I was unsure how it will be perceived.

Since I've been following Ela's thread, I've seen/felt her as an unbiased critique but bit disappointed to see some responses to some of the comments. I agree everyone has their own POV but defending someone irrespective of their reckless act seems biased.

I'm sure Jalal has/will have no doubts on Jodha. I can see that conviction on his face. It's because he has immense faith in Jodha and her love. I understand he had failed in Sujamal's track but one should remember that Jo was the root cause for that MU and he also repented for that more than enough.

I wish Jodha had shown the same faith in him. Why can't she trust his decision for once and just stay quiet? What was the need to release Khyber going against her husband, risking her own kids' lives? If she feels gratitude towards him, she has already saved him twice.

Has she not thought of the implications of releasing a prisoner? Is she expecting Jalal just to understand and forgive her? Then, isn't she taking his love and being a queen for granted?

I too like JO a lot but don't like her stubbornness, impulsiveness and over confidence that she is always right.

I'm one amongst the people who believe in Jalal's love and that he is only pretending. Having said that, I can also understand the reactions of those who believe that Jalal is really attracted to Atifa. However, what I fail to understand is Jo being justified just because Jalal is wrong and the comparisons who are more wrong. Also, I'm surprised at how Khyber's love (?) is even being compared with Jalal's love for Jodha or considered greater than Jalal's.

Hope Ela you wouldn't mind my comments as a follower of your threads.



You said this even better than me Nila. My thoughts exactly...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: elasingh


First of all i have always had defended jo support to kz even when there was no afifa. ..I firmly believe that if someone is reforming then they should be given a chance. .

Our response to kz arise from the view of civilized society cruelty that those who are not like us should be killed. ..or separated. ...it is completely unsympathetic. ..an easy way out. .I don't support this view at all.

Again what do you mean by vulgar? Does kz really know civilized society's rules that he should leave because jo is changing. ...

Has jo in present situation any other options?
I admit that things have gone a little out of hand. .

But has jo said to kz that she has no wazood with out him and jallu is her guzra hua kal..
I fail to understand what you find vulgar?

I am sorry but I can't always post views to be in any body's good books


I did not use the word Vulgar..I am not sure what you are referring to, but got the point.
That was harsh...but all is well 😊. Thank you.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Nilarani




Exactly what I wanted to say after Tuesday's thread but was hesitant as I was unsure how it will be perceived.

Since I've been following Ela's thread, I've seen/felt her as an unbiased critique but bit disappointed to see some responses to some of the comments. I agree everyone has their own POV but defending someone irrespective of their reckless act seems biased.

I'm sure Jalal has/will have no doubts on Jodha. I can see that conviction on his face. It's because he has immense faith in Jodha and her love. I understand he had failed in Sujamal's track but one should remember that Jo was the root cause for that MU and he also repented for that more than enough.

I wish Jodha had shown the same faith in him. Why can't she trust his decision for once and just stay quiet? What was the need to release Khyber going against her husband, risking her own kids' lives? If she feels gratitude towards him, she has already saved him twice.

Has she not thought of the implications of releasing a prisoner? Is she expecting Jalal just to understand and forgive her? Then, isn't she taking his love and being a queen for granted?

I too like JO a lot but don't like her stubbornness, impulsiveness and over confidence that she is always right.

I'm one amongst the people who believe in Jalal's love and that he is only pretending. Having said that, I can also understand the reactions of those who believe that Jalal is really attracted to Atifa. However, what I fail to understand is Jo being justified just because Jalal is wrong and the comparisons who are more wrong. Also, I'm surprised at how Khyber's love (?) is even being compared with Jalal's love for Jodha or considered greater than Jalal's.

Hope Ela you wouldn't mind my comments as a follower of your threads.



Beautifully said...esp bold...as also comments that she is better off with Khybu than Jalal 😕

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