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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi... very good take...

and thanks for ur SMS updates after the episode, coz that help me decide which scenes i should watch from the episode... and it really helps me keeping myself away from going totally mad, with the way both lead characters r butchered everyday...

anyway, like i told u yest while we were chatting abt new promo, that the promo may be for real... if u still had my msg with u, see last 2/3 msg... i think after KZ death, Jalal ll be more upset with Jo for helping him and thus putting HIS KIDS' life in danger... (if they showed it like this, i m surely calling both Zee and BT ppl to ask them abt Jalal's mental state, who provides more security to his current GF than his pregnant wife... and ll ask them what they get from showing lead characters r big idiots, and rest of gang is always smart)...and then there may be further let down for Jo from palace inmates for rescuing KZ and thus again acting against Jalal and sultanat...to make the matters worst Jalal will announce his marriage with atifa, which ll further irk Jo that can lead her to take some drastic step once again...

like these ppl r claiming that Jalal ll be showing faking his attraction for Atifa, onl;y to save Jo and his kids... but seriously, nothing can hurt a pregnant woman more, than the feeling of her husband cheating with another woman... even if it's revealed further that he was faking for her safety, still the harm ll already would have been done, due to the worst mental stress she is suffering right now... and if by this acting , CVs r trying to show him smart and teda, then they r actually going to end by showing him guilty for her condition...

what i don't understand is, do CVs really think there is anything still left in Jalal's character that has to be butchered even further?? can't they understand that if they can't end this track properly , then all his acting and all ll make him look characterless , coz a woman like Jo ll surely ask him the reason to get intimate with Atifa, if he was really faking it... how will they show him answering that question? and even if Balaji's Jodha may accept all stupid reasoning CVs will make Jalal give her to console her, but will viewers accept that they r again and again taken on ride to look more fool???
Edited by sweet_diksha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: gheet

👏 Mansi...

It's very toiling watching this track, our condition is similar of Jodha's from yesterday's epi - drained and numb. It's Benazir's track hundred time over with similar promo as well and we are hoping it turns out to be of similar to Sukanya's wedding track with shrewd Emperor. You can't help from seeing glimpses of Sujamal's track as well - well reuse and recycle is our CV's motto.

Both Jalal and Jodha are flawed, I don't want to blame anyone here. They both are being forced by circumstances and as normal human beings they are behaving according to that with their nature. If it's wrong for Jodha to release Khyber despite of him being generally dangerous to everyone but her, it's in a way driven by the suddenly changed, cruel and not compassionate Jalal who did not show any mercy to him, caged him without food and light with severe beatings. The same Jalal who was far better with Zakira, who was physically challenged, also used as a weapon by the enemy, and shared similar crime, then he scolded the soldiers for the ill treatment unlike Khybe's case, maybe it is because Khyber is wild or it's part of his 'acting' to convince enemy.

Bu whatever it is Jodha sees it as a sin in a holy month - she being Jodha wants to spare Jalal and the family from that. Moreover at this point she also believes that Jalal doesn't want anything to do with her, so after losing everything she feels the need to at least retain her individuality which is from the beginning to feel for others, forgive and forget others so easily. If we say Jodha doesn't have enough faith in Jalal, Jalal too is doing the same, if at all he is acting - he should have given Jodha her script too before enacting his part. Because many can't see the reason of pretending to save her when it is actually driving her into so much of pain and almost costs her life. If this is to save her then I think now they are equal in score because Jodha gave the same reason during Sujamal's fiasco - it's for his life, she promised and we didn't buy it and many still blamed Jodha. So I think if Jalal uses the same excuse, no matter how Tedha, and attractive the role he played we can still not buy it and blame him for being Tedha at cost of Jodha which again will backfire to him only - then he would need to cry a bucket and etc which again would not be liked by most - so in short I don't see the point of this track now, especially during the impending pregnancy of the twins.

Jodha is being very disoriented now, momentarily forgot about her children and tried to commit suicide. She is always like that - first she would be numb with pain, then detach herself from everything and often attempts to end her life. She can fight for the whole world and never for herself - Jalal even remarked about this during Sujamal's track thus the promo looks very unreal and dreamlike to me too. Even if she objects it would never be because of the reason she gives in the promo. She absolutely has no idea how fight or reinstate her rights, hak, audha or whatever you call it. You need to be BEK for that. The less talked about her is better. She without any consciousness and dignity dared to question Jalal for caring for a pregnant Jodha even after she defied him in public that too out humanity - when in fact R is forgiven and protected from insult after conspiring to make fool of him with fake pregnancy. Shouldn't she know better? - this is what you call irony

PS - I am too waiting with bated breath for R to be exposed...

Wonderful post gheet. Agree with everything u said.Specially the bold lines.
I want to ask something- why do u think that Khyber is dangerous to everyone except Jodha. When MC ordered Khyber to kill Jalal, she and her men had to first collect Jalal's blood and then made him smell it and only after that they were convinced that Khyber would go n kill jalal. Then Khyber attacked jalal and men who tried to resist, were all killed by him. So I don't know why we are thinking that he will kill each and everyone he rests his eyes on. I have not seen him attacking anyone of his own, does he ever done that? I may be wrong as I missed many episodes in between; in that case I am taking back my words. I am not saying he should be released, even Jodha had no problem with kz being imprisoned, the problem started when he was beaten up mercilessly inside the prison, Jalal didn't take any step to prevent it even when he was informed by jodha about the same. And he took another step further by giving him cruel death as u pointed out beautifully in ur post. This is clearly a Sin according to me. No one deserves such death. Sorry for venting out but just because he looks scary and can't communicate, that doesn't mean he should be executed that way. Jodha was wrong to release Khyber herself no doubt about that- but what other options she had? If her relationship with Jalal were normal she would have gone to him, but now she knows that Jalal will not listen to him no matter what, she can't sit at her hojra and see Khyber dying like that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: deejagi

NO, he sat down hiding himself from Moti's view and was still cursing her when she poured some water for Jodha and went to give her the water glass.


In that case Sharif is dumb or was acting to be surprised

I had seriously thought Sharif will use Khaibar to abduct Jodha
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Posted: 11 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi Mansi... very good take...

and thanks for ur SMS updates after the episode, coz that help me decide which scenes i should watch from the episode... and it really helps me keeping myself away from going totally mad, with the way both lead characters r butchered everyday...

anyway, like i told u yest while we were chatting abt new promo, that the promo may be for real... if u still had my msg with u, see last 2/3 msg... i think after KZ death, Jalal ll be more upset with Jo for helping him and thus putting HIS KIDS' life in danger... (if they showed it like this, i m surely calling both Zee and BT ppl to ask them abt Jalal's mental state, who provides more security to his current GF than his pregnant wife... and ll ask them what they get from showing lead characters r big idiots, and rest of gang is always smart)...and then there may be further let down for Jo from palace inmates for rescuing KZ and thus again acting against Jalal and sultanat...to make the matters worst Jalal will announce his marriage with atifa, which ll further irk Jo that can lead her to take some drastic step once again...

like these ppl r claiming that Jalal ll be showing faking his attraction for Atifa, onl;y to save Jo and his kids... but seriously, nothing can hurt a pregnant woman more, than the feeling of her husband cheating with another woman... even if it's revealed further that he was faking for her safety, still the harm ll already would have been done, due to the worst mental stress she is suffering right now... and if by this acting , CVs r trying to show him smart and teda, then they r actually going to end by showing him guilty for her condition...

what i don't understand is, do CVs really think there is anything still left in Jalal's character that has to be butchered even further?? can't they understand that if they can't end this track properly , then all his acting and all ll make him look characterless , coz a woman like Jo ll surely ask him the reason to get intimate with Atifa, if he was really faking it... how will they show him answering that question? and even if Balaji's Jodha may accept all stupid reasoning CVs will make Jalal give her to console her, but will viewers accept that they r again and again taken on ride to look more fool???

@Red
Bang on!!!⭐️
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Posted: 11 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: deejagi

Was that law applicable even in 16th century? However if they are hell bent on this marriage track, then they can still show Atifa was not at all a married lady but was kept in Amanulla's custody and she was living in hell that fellow and now that her name is linked with Jalal, he is backing on his stand, so to save her from the society, Jalal will announce her marriage.


Yes Jaya the law was very much prevalent in 16th century... Muslim law was never amended all these are there in Quran-e -Pak.

P. S. My intentions are not to hurt anybody's religious view Whatever is written above is from what I have learnt from my Law school.

Jaya whatever you said is very much possible these dull headed morons can do anything...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi Mansi... very good take...

and thanks for ur SMS updates after the episode, coz that help me decide which scenes i should watch from the episode... and it really helps me keeping myself away from going totally mad, with the way both lead characters r butchered everyday...

anyway, like i told u yest while we were chatting abt new promo, that the promo may be for real... if u still had my msg with u, see last 2/3 msg... i think after KZ death, Jalal ll be more upset with Jo for helping him and thus putting HIS KIDS' life in danger... <font color="#0000FF">(if they showed it like this, i m surely calling both Zee and BT ppl to ask them abt Jalal's mental state, who provides more security to his current GF than his pregnant wife... and ll ask them what they get from showing lead characters r big idiots, and rest of gang is always smart)...</font>and then there may be further let down for Jo from palace inmates for rescuing KZ and thus again acting against Jalal and sultanat...to make the matters worst Jalal will announce his marriage with atifa, which ll further irk Jo that can lead her to take some drastic step once again...

like these ppl r claiming that Jalal ll be showing faking his attraction for Atifa, onl;y to save Jo and his kids... but seriously, nothing can hurt a pregnant woman more, than the feeling of her husband cheating with another woman... even if it's revealed further that he was faking for her safety, still the harm ll already would have been done, due to the worst mental stress she is suffering right now... and if by this acting , CVs r trying to show him smart and teda, then they r actually going to end by showing him guilty for her condition...

what i don't understand is, do CVs really think there is anything still left in Jalal's character that has to be butchered even further?? can't they understand that if they can't end this track properly , then all his acting and all ll make him look characterless , coz a woman like Jo ll surely ask him the reason to get intimate with Atifa, if he was really faking it... how will they show him answering that question? and even if Balaji's Jodha may accept all stupid reasoning CVs will make Jalal give her to console her, but will viewers accept that they r again and again taken on ride to look more fool???


nice diksha. N Exactly. Largerly cvs wanted to show womenizer Jalal n after getting baba ji ka thullu frm atifa,he would get only jo loves him unconditionally. But viewers huge negative feedback made hindrence on their path. Now cvs r in topsy turvey situation with their old script how to show Ja is nirdosh nahi toh viewes wl make sitting them on burning coal for making them shami kabaab. Now they have come with plan that ja is faking! A mighty emperor is faking to catch a spy of his foe directly to throw his preggy wife before gun point! Kaya kamal ka tera plan!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: gheet

👏 Mansi...

It's very toiling watching this track, our condition is similar of Jodha's from yesterday's epi - drained and numb. It's Benazir's track hundred time over with similar promo as well and we are hoping it turns out to be of similar to Sukanya's wedding track with shrewd Emperor. You can't help from seeing glimpses of Sujamal's track as well - well reuse and recycle is our CV's motto.

Both Jalal and Jodha are flawed, I don't want to blame anyone here. They both are being forced by circumstances and as normal human beings they are behaving according to that with their nature. If it's wrong for Jodha to release Khyber despite of him being generally dangerous to everyone but her, it's in a way driven by the suddenly changed, cruel and not compassionate Jalal who did not show any mercy to him, caged him without food and light with severe beatings. The same Jalal who was far better with Zakira, who was physically challenged, also used as a weapon by the enemy, and shared similar crime, then he scolded the soldiers for the ill treatment unlike Khybe's case, maybe it is because Khyber is wild or it's part of his 'acting' to convince enemy.

Bu whatever it is Jodha sees it as a sin in a holy month - she being Jodha wants to spare Jalal and the family from that. Moreover at this point she also believes that Jalal doesn't want anything to do with her, so after losing everything she feels the need to at least retain her individuality which is from the beginning to feel for others, forgive and forget others so easily. If we say Jodha doesn't have enough faith in Jalal, Jalal too is doing the same, if at all he is acting - he should have given Jodha her script too before enacting his part. Because many can't see the reason of pretending to save her when it is actually driving her into so much of pain and almost costs her life. If this is to save her then I think now they are equal in score because Jodha gave the same reason during Sujamal's fiasco - it's for his life, she promised and we didn't buy it and many still blamed Jodha. So I think if Jalal uses the same excuse, no matter how Tedha, and attractive the role he played we can still not buy it and blame him for being Tedha at cost of Jodha which again will backfire to him only - then he would need to cry a bucket and etc which again would not be liked by most - so in short I don't see the point of this track now, especially during the impending pregnancy of the twins.

Jodha is being very disoriented now, momentarily forgot about her children and tried to commit suicide. She is always like that - first she would be numb with pain, then detach herself from everything and often attempts to end her life. She can fight for the whole world and never for herself - Jalal even remarked about this during Sujamal's track thus the promo looks very unreal and dreamlike to me too. Even if she objects it would never be because of the reason she gives in the promo. She absolutely has no idea how fight or reinstate her rights, hak, audha or whatever you call it. You need to be BEK for that. The less talked about her is better. She without any consciousness and dignity dared to question Jalal for caring for a pregnant Jodha even after she defied him in public that too out humanity - when in fact R is forgiven and protected from insult after conspiring to make fool of him with fake pregnancy. Shouldn't she know better? - this is what you call irony

PS - I am too waiting with bated breath for R to be exposed...




Fabulous post and absolutely loved your lines in bold.

Yes Ruk faked pregnancy and made Jalal and Jodha wait on her hand on foot and SHE is advising HIM about how to behave with Jodha. I wish Jalal had reminded her of that wiping that smirk off her face 😡

Ruk REAL face before everybody! Will we ever get it?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi they have once again changed the montage to the older seprration one as seen in new prom. Is that indicative of a seperation between them. Now it seems jalal will save her but be very angry at her for rescuing khyber n again jodha torture will start n we will be left scratching our heads for clues as to what is going on.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, Lovely update for a relatively good episode. I will write more later but one thing I could not understand was that of Shrifuddin's surprised expression on hearing the news about Jodha being abducted again by Kyber. If I am correctly watched the episode, Sharif was in Jodha's room while she talked to Moti about relieving the Kyber from the well and she left then and there. So it was obvious that he should be aware of the fact that Jodha went to save Kyber. then why the hell he didn't follow her to the well and if his intentions were that leaching, he had a good chance to have her for him and Moti would have testified as Jodha left to save Kyber and Sharif could have abducted her. That was the reason I was under the impression that Jodha tried to commit suicide due to Sharif.

True he could not openly tell that JOdha went on her own to save Kyber as he would have get caught but what stopped him from following her. And why the hell Moti could not accompany Jodha and left her to go alone to the dense forest knowing very well that Jodha might get into danger?



Jaya - no SD left just after Moti gave water to Jodha. Cos he realized Moti was staying with Jodha.
Even the dialogue of Jodha to Moti what is the use of anything now that she has lost Jala's love etc. was after SD left.

Maybe SD was planning to go to surang again later after the festivities so in a way Jodha going to save Khyber was indirectly for her protection too. I hope after she comes back she is never left alone and the surang is discovered soon!


This Moti is USELESS! She does no work, does not take care of Jodha, only gossips with Bandis and hang around Jodha when Jalal comes to
visit!

Shouldn't Moti be sleeping Jodha's hojara now at night, what if Jodha needs something? Jodha had to go searching for Moti!
Where is Zakira btw!

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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By the way, one question
HOW DID JODHA GET THAT ROPE TO DRAG KHYBER?WAS THE DOOR OF THE WELL NOT LOCKED eeh?😆

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