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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi fabulous post and thanks for sharing the probably future tracks.

Jodha is very strong but also very soft and large hearted. If Jodha can forgive BB immediately, SD, Nigaar, Ruk insults and more I cannot even remember now then Khyber is someone who has saved her and her babies.

Can you imagine what state of mind she was when he kidnapped her, she was expecting worst and he actually saved her from MahaC soldiers.
Jodha saw his kindness and realized there is goodness and a human being inside he is not the animal he is projected.

Jodha was not against Jalal punishing Khyber just the torture and she only asked Jalal to pardon his life. If Jodha wanted to go against Jalal as is said then she could have asked in her wish that Khyber be freed, she did not ask that.

What Jalal has done, he is trying to get Khyber killed by reducing his food and water and making him weak. So in effect he is going against what wish Jodha asked for Khyber. Jodha kept remembering HB words about it being a pious night and decided she had to free Khyber.

Jodha is so much in love with Jalal that his words cut her. Jodha has soft heart but she does not show her emotions, her hurts esp deep ones easily. So when her mother had refused to take her back to Amer, Jodha sat alone in her hojara and kept to herself and then in extreme helpless feeling she tried to end her life. Here again when Jalal said those brutal words to her, Jodha did not react she was stunned and in daze. She pretended the whole day, could not even look at Jalal when she went to tell him about jakaat this is how much she is hurt inside.

When she is back in her hojara at night then also she told Moti nothing matters since she has lost Jalal's love. Later she came to her senses and thought about Khyber. She had to save his life cos like she said she cannot change who she is. Also if Khyber had actually given his life then it would have been on Jalal on the holy night.

When Jodha freed Khyber she told him nobody understands him, he should get out of civilization and this place is not for him. There is no love here and she sends him away. She shooed his hands away and sent him. I guess Khyber kept looking back so he noticed she was about to jump.

I must say I was also thinking she will not try to commit suicide but Jaya explained her mental state so beautifully. It was not just NOW but Jalal's words to her were like the last straw on camel's back.

Ever since realizing she is pregnant except for a brief period Jodha has faced intense physical hardships, mental torture, Jalal's shouting at her and his saying all the harsh things just broke her. When she freed Khyber she was in that drained dazy state where she did not feel any hope for anything. All she could think was Jalal's words and in that moment she was not thinking about anything else but Jalal. When Khyber saved her she again came to her senses and realized what she was about to do and said self talk about her babies.

I think if she had not gone to save Khyber who knows SD might have come back again via surang and tried to kidnap her? So Jodha going to save Khyber's life might have saved hers.

Also Khyber went away when she told him to leave, he stopped her from jumping and seeing her tears he felt she was sad and unsafe, even he understood she might do something silly so he carried her off.

I think it was height of 🤬 Ruk telling Jalal about Jodha. I wish Jalal had reminded her how she behaved when she was faking it.

Maddy, the irony of Ekta's characterisation of her heroines is that in trying to make them super-strong woman Ekta frequently shows them as trampled upon, denigrated, insulted, mistreated ... and then despite it all the heroine surfaces to show how strong she is.
Also in contrast the vamp or the "other lady" (in this cae Ruq) always has it easy, gets forgiven, demands more than her due, misbehaves and gets away with it all, just so that it can be shown that despite having her way she is only second best.
What I cannot understand is why a woman who needs to be shown as strong needs to be given below-normal treatment to show how above-normal she is? Can a woman who is treated decently not also be shown strong by her achievements and positive-loaded life rather than showing her strong by her ability to overcome difficulties in a negatively loaded life?
This is like saying that the story of a rags to riches man is more powerful than to show the life of a rich son of a rich man also going on to do great things! Why is there a discrimination between someone suffering and rising from suffering (seen as "great therefore) and someone who has a good life and rises from that to do even more good (and seen therefore as not as "great")?
I keep asking myself if Jodha were not as insulted or denigrated or mistreated and she still helped jalal become a great King would we think less of her achievements just because she did not have to suffer?
I can't understand this need in society (and therefore also in Ekta) to show people needlessly suffering just to show them as therefore great. Its a perverted point of view that views a positive basis to one's life not being as powerful a driver of achievement as a negatively loaded life.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi guys, even TOI news confirms that JA will take a leap in October and will concentrate on Salim Anarkali. They have also given the note that even Maharana Pratap will take the leap in September (from young pratap & Jalal to grown up ones)
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: deejagi

Hi guys, even TOI news confirms that JA will take a leap in October and will concentrate on Salim Anarkali. They have also given the note that even Maharana Pratap will take the leap in September (from young pratap & Jalal to grown up ones)



i think oct leap is short one , say around 5 - 7 years... big leap ll be later
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi Mansi,



Good Analyis,+Indication of Next Tracks, Lot of thanks to Diksha, sharing News for Coming tracks.


Episode was different type, So Jodha totally showed Heart-Broken, she is feeling Emotional -Lack, her husband distanced her. But liked,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;she says, HER HUMANITY should be Alive.


Again Fearless Jodha, Took decesion to saving Khyber,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Because He did'not did Any crime.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;If Queen takes this type of decesion, then Innocent people are save in Agra Kigdom;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; so Jalal should be aware, he got a title AKbar, so he should take decsions Carefully +Awarefully.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Khyber listens language, Love, but he not educated,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;is This track learn us;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Mentely weak+Disblance people should be protective, or they should sent in LEARNING SCHOOL. Which khyber type people needed this time;;;;;;;;;;;;;so as a King, Akbar should decide, Mentely weak person,
IMPROVEMENT HOUSES.


Jodha Saved Khyber, But Own feels very emotional, & tries to attemp suside,, But khyber saves her, She sudden awares,;;;;;;;;;;she is doing Wrong.

How much she loves Jalal, & how much she feeling HURTING, but if Jalal is Faking, this method giving jodha Pain,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Couple should improve these things., its coming wrong effects.


Is Khyber again kidnaps jodha because he not wants, Jodha will again try to attempt suside.


Prayer scene was good, everybody says own wishes, but wishes are different, but some suspense is in wishes

Again jalal notices Jodha is not seeing, full of ladies eating scene, But again suspection goes to Ruk, but Jalal is seen Aware,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Is Ruk truth will out Soon if Yes,,😃

Camera is going on Maham , Is Maham +Ruk +Atifa three are culprits this time,

My local newspaper news, CB truth will be out soon in jodha Akbar.

But sharrif scene, why, he not seen, he did some,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but is he knows, Jodha went outside,but he is sitting in DEK,😕 is Khyber Knows, jodha went in place Sharrif will kidnapp,

But surprising thing is this Queen goes outside, No one knows, Queen is pregnant No body is caring, Jodha feeling Lonelyness +Emotional lack,No-Body giving Mentel +Emotional support.

Is HB, SB, Are u nmature ladies, they not knows;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Pregnant ladies what needs.?

if Jalal is faking, +hiding, but is harshness +Rude words, so much totally disturbed Jodha.
Sad,


Precap,Jodha Runs Away, or i think Khyber will save again or she will meet Jalal?

Ayushi, your post has made me think: what exactly does Khyber feel for Jodha? Is he worried that she will try to commit suicide again and is he protecting her? is he feeling love for her? is he possessive? Is he thankful for her caring and concern? Is he having animalistic passion for her? What does he actually feel for Jodha and is it a healthy or unhealthy feeling?
I feel Jodha also needs to think a little bit about the person she is helping because she should not end up helping someone whose intentions towards her are not yet measured properly. Its not a great thing for Jodha to say she is a compassionate soul if the person she is helping is not "worthy" or deserving of her caring.
Jodha is only tending to judge people by the superficialities. Khyber is suffering cruel treatment so she should help him! That is not enough to just think in one dimension.
Should Jodha not worry about what exactly is the psychology of the person she is helping?
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



@ in red... this question is in my mind too... why MA was absent when Jalal was having sweets with HB and all???


Diksha, yes she was missing, it means, something is Cooking, but you read i wrote My local newspaper News, CB mystry will be solve now.

or Leap news i just read, it means Manytracks which has opened, they needed Bind up,

so every culprit time is now, Caughting, But why Leap So soon,

so is Jalal C I D team will now on mission, CATCH THE CULPRITS,😆

First, Deep sleepings, Then FAST Waking UP,😆



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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2">Mansi fabulous post and thanks for sharing the probably future tracks.

Jodha is very strong but also very soft and large hearted. If Jodha can forgive BB immediately, SD, Nigaar, Ruk insults and more I cannot even remember now then Khyber is someone who has saved her and her babies.

Can you imagine what state of mind she was when he kidnapped her, she was expecting worst and he actually saved her from MahaC soldiers.
Jodha saw his kindness and realized there is goodness and a human being inside he is not the animal he is projected.

Jodha was not against Jalal punishing Khyber just the torture and she only asked Jalal to pardon his life. If Jodha wanted to go against Jalal as is said then she could have asked in her wish that Khyber be freed, she did not ask that.

What Jalal has done, he is trying to get Khyber killed by reducing his food and water and making him weak. So in effect he is going against what wish Jodha asked for Khyber. Jodha kept remembering HB words about it being a pious night and decided she had to free Khyber.

Jodha is so much in love with Jalal that his words cut her. Jodha has soft heart but she does not show her emotions, her hurts esp deep ones easily. So when her mother had refused to take her back to Amer, Jodha sat alone in her hojara and kept to herself and then in extreme helpless feeling she tried to end her life. Here again when Jalal said those brutal words to her, Jodha did not react she was stunned and in daze. She pretended the whole day, could not even look at Jalal when she went to tell him about jakaat this is how much she is hurt inside.

When she is back in her hojara at night then also she told Moti nothing matters since she has lost Jalal's love. Later she came to her senses and thought about Khyber. She had to save his life cos like she said she cannot change who she is. Also if Khyber had actually given his life then it would have been on Jalal on the holy night.

When Jodha freed Khyber she told him nobody understands him, he should get out of civilization and this place is not for him. There is no love here and she sends him away. She shooed his hands away and sent him. I guess Khyber kept looking back so he noticed she was about to jump.

I must say I was also thinking she will not try to commit suicide but Jaya explained her mental state so beautifully. It was not just NOW but Jalal's words to her were like the last straw on camel's back.

Ever since realizing she is pregnant except for a brief period Jodha has faced intense physical hardships, mental torture, Jalal's shouting at her and his saying all the harsh things just broke her. When she freed Khyber she was in that drained dazy state where she did not feel any hope for anything. All she could think was Jalal's words and in that moment she was not thinking about anything else but Jalal. When Khyber saved her she again came to her senses and realized what she was about to do and said self talk about her babies.

I think if she had not gone to save Khyber who knows SD might have come back again via surang and tried to kidnap her? So Jodha going to save Khyber's life might have saved hers.

Also Khyber went away when she told him to leave, he stopped her from jumping and seeing her tears he felt she was sad and unsafe, even he understood she might do something silly so he carried her off.

I think it was height of 🤬 Ruk telling Jalal about Jodha. I wish Jalal had reminded her how she behaved when she was faking it.

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superb take maddy.thumb up.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Ayushi, your post has made me think: what exactly does Khyber feel for Jodha? Is he worried that she will try to commit suicide again and is he protecting her? is he feeling love for her? is he possessive? Is he thankful for her caring and concern? Is he having animalistic passion for her? What does he actually feel for Jodha and is it a healthy or unhealthy feeling?
I feel Jodha also needs to think a little bit about the person she is helping because she should not end up helping someone whose intentions towards her are not yet measured properly. Its not a great thing for Jodha to say she is a compassionate soul if the person she is helping is not "worthy" or deserving of her caring.
Jodha is only tending to judge people by the superficialities. Khyber is suffering cruel treatment so she should help him! That is not enough to just think in one dimension.
Should Jodha not worry about what exactly is the psychology of the person she is helping?


Mansi agree with you But yesterday, when i saw Pic of Khyber, Dying, then i felt, Maybee he
died to saving Jodha, if this happened, Then khyber intensions, maybee, Clear.

Yes Jodha should handle situations more carefully +Awarefully. i was thinking, Without consulting, anyone, she went forest, hearing, HEART-SOUND, its can becomes more danger for her also;;;;;;;;;;;;;;as a queen, danger comes More, Enemy can misuse this situation.
Why Cv not thinking,Little, tracks are going, +coming sensless.
if you will save, then you will protect Others.

She should check, Front person psychology. Superficialities, can be wrong. Both couple needed to Learn Maximum.

One thing, i forget to write, ATIFA husband beats wife Wrong, is Jalal Speaking Style is Right to her Wife, Jodha. Maybee if he is faking, but is how much hurting is Right?

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Maddy, the irony of Ekta's characterisation of her heroines is that in trying to make them super-strong woman Ekta frequently shows them as trampled upon, denigrated, insulted, mistreated ... and then despite it all the heroine surfaces to show how strong she is.
Also in contrast the vamp or the "other lady" (in this cae Ruq) always has it easy, gets forgiven, demands more than her due, misbehaves and gets away with it all, just so that it can be shown that despite having her way she is only second best.
What I cannot understand is why a woman who needs to be shown as strong needs to be given below-normal treatment to show how above-normal she is? Can a woman who is treated decently not also be shown strong by her achievements and positive-loaded life rather than showing her strong by her ability to overcome difficulties in a negatively loaded life?
This is like saying that the story of a rags to riches man is more powerful than to show the life of a rich son of a rich man also going on to do great things! Why is there a discrimination between someone suffering and rising from suffering (seen as "great therefore) and someone who has a good life and rises from that to do even more good (and seen therefore as not as "great")?
I keep asking myself if Jodha were not as insulted or denigrated or mistreated and she still helped jalal become a great King would we think less of her achievements just because she did not have to suffer?
I can't understand this need in society (and therefore also in Ekta) to show people needlessly suffering just to show them as therefore great. Its a perverted point of view that views a positive basis to one's life not being as powerful a driver of achievement as a negatively loaded life.

Mansi, Ekta's heroines are shown that with repeated tragedy hit on them, they will shape out to be the great human being just like a raw stone turns out to be the best sculpture after it undergoes repeated hits. Like gold shines on repeatedly heating
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



i think oct leap is short one , say around 5 - 7 years... big leap ll be later

No Diksha, I got that from RR forum where they had given about this time leap on 8 shows and JA tops the list where they had given we will get to see Salim Anarkali. But if is only 5 - 6 years, it is understandable as they can't keep showing some more new entry of traitors.
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Aug 12 2014 : The Times of India (Mumbai)
Eight television shows introduce time leaps


Introducing a time leap is the most tried and tested method on television to revive a show's ratings. As many as eight serials have or are about to take this 'leap of faith'.

JODHA AKBAR

The show, featuring Paridhi Sharma and Rajat Tokas in title roles, is tipped to take a leap in October. According to sources, the Salim-Anarkali (Salim was Akbar's son) track will be introduced.

BHARAT KA VEER PUTRA -MAHARANA PRATAP

The young artistes of the show -Faisal Khan and Vishal Jethwa, who play Pratap and Akbar -will make way for grown-up actors.
The generation leap, which has been in the pipeline for a long time, is slated to take place in September.

RANGRASIYA

After failing to rake in ratings, the show recently took a time leap of five years.
Sanaya Irani, who played the original lead Paro, has returned as Myrah in a modern avatar. The character will eventually fall in love with the male lead, played by Ashish Sharma. QUBOOL HAI

The show took two leaps -the first was of a couple of years and the second, a generation leap of 20 years.
Surbhi Jyoti, who plays Zoya in the show, returned as her daughter Sanam, post the leap. Karanvir Bohra plays the new male lead after Karan Grover and Raqesh Vashisth.

PAVITRA RISHTA

Post four time leaps -including a generation leap where Ankita Lokhande played her own grand-daughter -the show recently took another leap of five years. This time around, Ankita she will play mother to a five-year-old girl.

SASURAL SIMAR KA

It jumped two years forward in June.
A huge drama unfolded just before the leap with Dipika Samson -the protagonist -announcing that she is quitting the show. However, she revoked the decision.

BADE ACHHE LAGGTE HAIN

This show has also had three time leaps.

What started off as a mature love story soon started focussing on several characters. The show finally ended last month.

MADHUBALA -EK ISHQ EK NOON

The show, which went off air on Saturday , had taken a generation leap of 18 years in February . But clearly , the tactic didn't help.

What prompts TV shows to go in for time leaps? Writer Raguvir Shekhawat says, "A time leap works as an alternate therapy when the existing story is exhausted. It sometimes revives the TRPs, but may even fail. Sometimes, it's introduced whn the original story or the charactersartistes fail to gather enough eyeballs. It has to be executed in a way that your connection with viewers is not broken.
It's like seeing your spouse in a new avatar after 10 years of marriage. It's usually the last desperate attempt to save a dying patient; there's a lot of thought involved in it."

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Posted: 11 years ago
seems Jalal -Atifa marriage is shown...

see the article in forum..here is the link... thanks for sharing (i don't know name of who made this post...)

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4129390

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