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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
I think Jallu ko bhoot badha hui hai!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You made a thread on thisπŸ˜•
Remember the day when Atifa entered JA (BLACK WEDNESDAY for me) and I wrote WU thread...There me, Abhay and a few more people started this hypnotism ideaπŸ₯±...After that came teda Jallu idea ( I have dropped that idea totallyπŸ₯±)...Now we are back to this spell trickπŸ₯±
I am pulling my hair now😑...If it was real spell then why does he talk sense sometimes and sometimes acts weird...A man is spell should be totally under the control of a person who is casting it...If Atifa is casting it on Jallu and against Jodha then anything that Jodha does will be looked with a cold look and he will be angry, rude all the time...We are getting that ...but then sometimes he talks a lot of sense too...Like when he made dialogues to the awaam about punishment to Khyber he was acting like a sangdil Jallu again...it did make some senseπŸ˜•...If he was under spell then why did he listen to Jodha's wish when she asked maafi for Khyber...he should have said a stern NO...That means he is thinking, using his brain somewhere...Why is he analysing his relationship with Jodha???...Does a spell have the power to do that??...πŸ˜•...I am confused totally nowπŸ₯±...Spell to spell hi sahi...Kuch bhi karo but don't make a mockery of the Akdha love story CVs that we are so attached tooπŸ₯±...Please wind up this track ASAP and please feed this boiled egg cum papita to Khyber fast...
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

I read all the threads here - felt dejected at first and THEN, tried watching the episode with an open mind - and this is what I deduced!😊
I realized that the general wave of anger is with the fact that Jalal is misbehaving with Jodha - especially overlooking the fact that she is pregnant. ANYONE would feel enraged - especially had they not seen the episodes till a week ago. Since we have seen the episodes till a week ago - since we know how far Jodha is the apple of Jalal's eye and how much he yearned for these babies, his behaviour baffles me!😲
Nevertheless a few things I noticed today - again trying to keep the hopes up!
Has anyone realized that Jalal is possibly not being himself with ANY of the good people in Agra? NONE of them!

He is not himself with Atgah - he hasn't been listening to the advice that Atgah has been giving him (both onscreen about Atifa and offscreen about Khyber/Ramadan) as Atgah mentioned
He is not giving Tansen the respect that he used to - this Tansen had actually insulted Jalal in court, yet Jalal recognized his talent and put up with him. Now he's not even giving him or his music a second look/hearing and Tansen has noticed that all too well!
He is not giving Jodha the care/love/freedom that he used to - nothing at all! He is not showing concern/care ever since Atifa came.
He is not seeking Ammijaan/Salima Begum. No scenes of him with Rahim!

He is losing his temper with everyone. He has lost his judicious nature/kindness. He has become quite irked and lost his humility - compare his announcement in the DEK a week ago when he actually bowed to his Begums to express his heartfelt gratitude for their help in the war! What a different person this guy is!
He is going against the rules of Islam - which he has never done before except to spread goodness and cheer (like merging of the two religions)

He is meting a cruel punishment (which according to the serial) hasn't been meted in years - which is another pointer that he is losing his kindness and returning to his cruel streak!
Even when he got angry with Jodha before Atifa came - he realized that very evening that he wanted to go back to her and apologize. In fact, he was on his way to do that and ever since that Hamam incident, his behaviour took a change for the worse! He fails to see the pain in Jodha's eyes that he always did. He doesn't think about her in her absence which he has never done in the past 8 months! The smirks and the smiles and the hunar-praise he has been giving Atifa is what he used to do to Jodha till 3 episodes ago (Remember, he even called Jodha's twin-conception as her hunar which I thought was OTT!)

The only person he is calm around is Atifa (like how Khyber calms down around Jodha)
Does that say something? πŸ€”

Besides, two people he is CLOSEST to have noticed and discussed this today -
Jodha said 'You look like a different person today' and who better to observe this than her
Atgah said 'Shehenshah has changed and the only way one person changes so much is when they're under the spell of something or someone!'
The Khyber issue - neither are wrong!

I don't find anything wrong in what Jodha did - she is not requesting for Khyber to be freed... she is only asking for him not to be punished - she is using the excuse of Ramadan to request for it. She didn't intend to insult Jalal in public - she was desperate to have him saved there!
I don't find anything wrong in what Jalal is doing - he is punishing a monster-like assassin who he'd already pardoned once on the request of Jodha. No King in any country or region would have pardoned an assassin who kidnapped his wife and again broke rules to re-enter his harem and sit on her bed again! These days it's humiliating even if a Boss of a company has to go back on his word - here, the king had to publicly take back his punishment and unwillingly - so, I can understand the anger.

The only thing I see wrong is the anger/irritation with which Jalal is carrying everything out. This is not coming out as assertiveness, but as a domineering egoistic behaviour - which we haven't seen lately. For him to change so drastically, gives me all the more reason to believe something is wrong.

Lately, not only are his preferences changing - his nature is changing too!
If this was all a Teda chaal, I doubt there would be reason for him to change his inherent nature so drastically and that too to everyone and in every issue! The reason he is behaving this way with Jodha could be due to the fact that he doesn't even realize what he's doing.
Everything adds up to my hunch that he must be under a spell now.. and my hopeful heart wants him to realize that he's been cast a spell on, come out of it, investigate the root of the issue and set things right!

Btw, what is this strange spell the CVs are casting upon us that I've actually made a thread in JA after five months?πŸ€”πŸ˜†



Shraddha, great to see ur thread!


Jalal-Atifa track:

Three possibilities and its effects and loopholes:

1) Jalal being Teda Jalal: Jalal knowing Atifa is an assassin and acting "attracted or interested" in her to show everyone and therefore ridiculous dialogues and scenes with Atgah (about love etc) and with Jodha to show how he has changed and does not care about his love and a woman he who giving him an heir.

This would be the best way to resurrect Teda Jalal. All fans -be it Jalal fans (esp.), Akdha fans and Jodha fans would be very happy. However, the problem is in order to do "drama" he caused or will cause unintentional mental stress to Jodha and his unborn kids which is not good for her health or his kids. but, he might have thought preventing direct physical danger to jodha and kids is better or more important than worrying about mental stress which might have less effect than real physical danger.

2) Jalal under spell or hypnotised: This would explain his changed behavior towards everyone esp. Jodha and even his OWN changing nature. It would totally justify his own behavior and his behavior towards everyone esp. Jodha.So, no one will blame him for anything.

But, the problem is that usually when some one is under spell or hypnotism, one does not realize it. So, it means there would be some other person (most likely Jodha and Atgah may be) who realizes it and diffuses the spell and rescues Jalal. There is nothing wrong with it except it would seem repetitive of Benz track unless something clicks or triggers Jalal's mind or something big happens that shakes Jalal out of hypnotism/spell without the help of a person. (the trigger could be an event or prayers or a miracle - it can be anything). After he realizes he is under spell then maybe they can show teda Jalal but it seems highly unlikely considering current Cvs.

If this happens, Akdha fans will be very happy for obvious reason and so would most Jodha and most Jalal fans. (except that the hope of Teda Jalal would be gone for this track unless after he comes out of spell by himself he acts Teda and get to the root of problem).Few Jodha fans might feel guilty or hurt/sad that they called Jalal by different names or that they had to eat their own words. Few Jalal fans might get mad if Jodha rescues him again while he is under spell.

3) Jalal is genuinely attracted or interested in Atifa or love(?) Atifa as he said: If Atifa would have been unmarried then it would have made more sense if he was attracted to her. But, she is married (well at least that's what is shown so far). So, it really goes against Emperor Jalal, husband Jalal, lover Jalal and God-loving Jalal, too. This would also go against the main point of the epic love story.If he is NOT shown under spell or as teda jalal, then I really don't know what to say. he may be attracted but definitely not in love according to me unless CVS decide to show that.

If this happens, then be it Akdha fans, Jodha fans or Jalal fans, all would be devastated and angry. The reasons might be different- Akdha fans will be mad because their Akdha are not together in love and with each other, some Jodha fans will be mad because Jodha is hurt and Some Jalal fans will be mad because he will probably have to apologize to Jodha and they will not like it at all. One thing all fans will agree that Jalal's character would have been butchered even more than before.



Khyber-Jodha track: I agree with your points made on Jodha and Jalal.
Edited by ashpat - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Girls, I just heard that neither is Jalal under a spell nor is he having any plan... this is just Benazir part 2..
so I guess there's no point of any further speculation... sorry for trying to keep everyone's hopes up!

JA had the highest TRPs 11,000+ when Jalal cried in the Mazhar after Jodha's poison intake, they are just planning to replicate that after this track..

I also read that they are planning for a leap from Oct.. so looks like this is the final nail in the coffin for Jalal before the leap...
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Girls, I just heard that neither is Jalal under a spell nor is he having any plan... this is just Benazir part 2..

so I guess there's no point of any further speculation... sorry for trying to keep everyone's hopes up!

JA had the highest TRPs 11,000+ when Jalal cried in the Mazhar after Jodha's poison intake, they are just planning to replicate that after this track..

I also read that they are planning for a leap from Oct.. so looks like this is the final nail in the coffin for Jalal before the leap...

I AM NOT SURPRISED...BECAUSE AFTER THINKING A LOT I HAD DEDUCED AT THIS YESTERDAYπŸ₯± ...READ MY POST ABOVE AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID...------ THIS IS FOR THE CVSπŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ FOR PUTTING US DOWN, πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘ FOR MAKING A MOCKERY OF AKDHA SOUL-CONNECTED, EMOTIONAL LOVE STORY IN THE MIDST OF POLYGAMYπŸ₯± THIS WAS WHAT JALLU UNDERSTOOD ABOUT LOVE AND THIS WAS HIS LOVE THAT CVS WANTED TO CONVEY IN THIS ONE YEAR😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑πŸ₯±
Edited by Pals2411 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post dear! I have not been watching the show since this stupid track started, i m waiting for it to finish so i can resume!
I really hope there is reason for Jallu behaving crazy...its really unsetteling to read the WU let alone watch.
I loved ur post for giving a hint of positive future of the show! If they dont bounce back i dont think i'll be able to watch it!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#57
nice post dear
i agree with u
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lash,
I am thankful to CVs for this spell, that it made you write a thread. (Barring the hilarious, kahin ye donon fir se one)

As always your post is amazingly balanced, and yes adds a theory. It would be fun to consider Atifa as a siren whose song captures a man's senses.

Even I feel Jalaal is blatant in his affection of her, especially with those around him. Especially, around them. But, when he's alone, he's somewhat withdrawn, when he held her hand after she'd sung the first time, when they were alone, he just casually inquired about her hurt, and when she saw her changing (I am pretty sure she knew), he just smiled. Frankly his behaviour is too puzzling.

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