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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi,
Loved Shariff and Khaibar scene.Poor Parag he has to sulk for a woman when he has a " kaanta laga" at home.Those passionate lovers were treat to watch.Shariff actually poured his heart out in front of Khaiber,Both are sailing in the same boat.
Whatever is their passionate love ,poor Jo is still happy and safe in her Jalal's arms though he is lusting for Atifa.Its like this ,we sometimes get bored eating daal chawal and we then try some chaats,bhaajiyas etc.Enjoy it to the core but when stomach starts protesting later on or the rising cholesterol levels make us sweat ,we come back to dal chawal.
Same applies to momentary attraction and life long love.
Atifa's popularity with Jalal reminds me of a song," Ramchandra kehe Gaye siyase Aisa Kalyuga aayega, Hans chubhega Daana aur kauwa Moti khaega ."
Enjoy this track with haajmola
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divi your love for Bollywood and specially it's songs is same like me.
I so love your song posts.👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Divi,

Loved Shariff and Khaibar scene.Poor Parag he has to sulk for a woman when he has a " kaanta laga" at home.Those passionate lovers were treat to watch.Shariff actually poured his heart out in front of Khaiber,Both are sailing in the same boat.
Whatever is their passionate love ,poor Jo is still happy and safe in her Jalal's arms though he is lusting for Atifa.Its like this ,we sometimes get bored eating daal chawal and we then try some chaats,bhaajiyas etc.Enjoy it to the core but when stomach starts protesting later on or the rising cholesterol levels make us sweat ,we come back to dal chawal.
Same applies to momentary attraction and life long love.
Atifa's popularity with Jalal reminds me of a song," Ramchandra kehe Gaye siyase Aisa Kalyuga aayega, Hans chubhega Daana aur kauwa Moti khaega ."
Enjoy this track with haajmola



lovely post Rashmi. Love u for this...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guys, I am still slammed with work ... I actually do not think I will be able to write takes anymore ... and it has nothing to do with this track though the timing is coincided.

The question with this track is not which is better Doormat or Cassanova ... there are three issues with Jalal going after Atifa:

(1) There are two USPs to this show : history and the love story. History ka to falooda ho chuka - only thing was left the love story. There is no audience that is going to except Jalal loves Jodha if he goes after another woman ... though in a polygamous setting, love could happen with multiple people. But, he just made the love confession ... already he is ready for new love?

This is different than doing his duty to his existing wives in my opinion.

(2) History mein Jalal could have been anything ... but it is inconsistent with the Jalal with the show. This is the Jalal who was desperate for Jodha to come back after the Sujamal fiasco?

He didn't even look at Ben ... (except for one near kiss) ... and was thinking of Jodha then when he didn't even fully love Jodha ... and now this women, who is neither attractive and also married, distracts him?

(3) He can't even be a Cassanova properly? He doesn't even understand why he is attracted to her. He is acting as if he has never been attracted to a woman before and acting lost and possessed.

She is not that attractive , she is married, and he is acting if he is out of control ... like he can't do anything about. At least consciously admit, I like her, I feel attracted to her.

Earlier we saw Jalal spending all his time with Jodha and the other women ... and this track he continues to do the same. A Cassanova is no stronger than a doormat.

Where is my Shehenshah who gets things done? To be shown stronger as a husband ... you don't need to be a Cassonava ... there are many ways to do that.

That is why I am hoping this track is not what it looks like .

And please do not compare Khaiber and Sharif's love to Jalal's.

Khaiber for now is melting towards the first person who has shown care ... this is not love, at least not yet. This is gratitude, loyalty, and near-obsession with the first person who was humane towards him.

What is Sharif's love? He was willing to have Jodha close to killed in the fake pregnancy track and continues to live with his wife who is pregnant. This is his loyalty to Jodha?

We don't even know if this is lust or not ... but one moment of weakness and Jalal is dismissed of as a bad husband. People never remember all the good things Jalal has done as a husband. That is why I had to do a post to remind them.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/4036027/jalal-you-are-not-a-good-husband


If what Jalal has done for Jodha is not love, then what is? Jodha has received a lot from Jalal as well, so let's stop making her a victim of everything and make it seem as if she has always only given to Jalal and received nothing in return. Yes, Jodha has done a lot for Jalal, but Jalal has done the same for Jodha.

Jodha is not a victim, she is a strong woman and she can handle this.
Jalal is not a weakling, but the CVs always seem to forget that.

But, in the end, we have seen one pained expression of Jodha , one weak moment of Jalal, and Jodha's life has been destroyed and Jalal is a demon?

Yes, I am fine with this track for now as for a change I do not know what the CVs / Jalal are up to and want to see how it plays out ... it is also nice to see a range of new expressions from Rajat.

But, at least wait for the track to end to see where Jodha and Jalal land out.


Edited by divyavm - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Interesting point Divya that Jallu can't even be a proper Cassanova. Isn't this the curiosity that's driving this Atifa thing for the next 5 mins. It won't last too long I don't think, coz by next week there may be new characters, a funeral (Khybru's?) and a wedding Atgah's son's?

On the more promising (from the logic standpoint) and slightly longer long term goal - Jo is shown by herself. No Moti even to advise her whether she should approach Jalal about Atifa. This is a huge leap in itself. Then there's the whip cracking prison scenes and Jo checking on Khybru's welfare often. Then there's her toe to toe with Jalal regarding Khybru's fate. Then there's the biggest theme - Jo is carrying the heirs to the Mughal Sultanate. This is really the main plot point I think. There are several simultaneous attempts to kill/poison/kidnap. If this track is rough, the next ones will be quite horrendous.



Edited by PadBear - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36
Yes I too enjoy seeing the various expressions of Rajat acting as the character of Akbar👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Beautiful take .

Love you for it.👏⭐️



Thanks!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Whatever I wanted to write in your take today, you wrote as your take itself ... Woah 😃 🤗

Like you even am totally intrigued. Am leaning towards hypnotism as Jallu is clueless, this guy - supposed husband of Atifa is asking her to wear the purdah, probably coz, he doesn't want all others present to get mesmerized, thereby revealing before some kind of attack. Is that toy paigaam a sandeshaa to Jodha about this Atifa... ?

Right now, this track does seem interesting, hope it doesn't fizzle out like other torturous tracks, but, ends with a twist and dhamaka.

Additionally, have been observing Rajat limping for couple of days, is it an act after that Khyber confrontation or is he really hurt 😒 doing action sequences?

Viji




Hey Viji- so glad to hear that we are on the same page these days 🤗

We are both joining the Ekta Kapoor veteran's club 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: Nilarani

You are a brilliant writer Divya. Enjoy reading your takes. Take 2 was hilarious. Can never write off Jalal though.



Thanks so much!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chitterati

I love your optimism, but I guess we finally need to take this as it is. There is no hidden agenda or conspiracy (at least that involved plotting to make Jalal fall for Atifa ). It's quit straightforward - Manju Jalal has found a brand new Laila... I am sure it's a momentary physical thing, that will pass away, but it's repercussions will stay onto haunt Jo JA as they witness the deaths of their infants.

More convinced now that this track is about showing stronger jodha, who finds the strength to deal with her philandering husband gracefully and does not turn all possessive and obsessive about jalal.

It is also about showing Jalal,that despite his love for jodha he still has primitive desire to be with others. Let's not forget this is holy Ramadan month in JA - when it is an absolute sin to lust for women (let alone a married one), and once Jalal's passions have been assuaged,he will realise what a blunder he has committed and his god will punish him (which will perhaps be at the heart of his guilt in twin deaths)

And as much as I wanted to see a cunning Jalal in action, I hope they instead show a smarter Jodha who is able to define her existence beyond Jalal and their love. And I sooo hope she maintains her distance from Him, no need to seek pardons for Ruk and Shenu and please no ammi jaan business anymore.
It will also make Jalal realise that what he has in Jo is beyond physical pleasures



I am not sure about the Jalal track ... if the CVs want to show that he did not have children for so long because of his sins ... that would be in very bad taste.

Jodha's existence is already beyond Jalal's love ... so I do not see anything new here. But, yes, I do want her to deal with the issue with grace and strength.

But, why so upset with Hamida Bano? She shouted at her out of pure concern that Khaiber might hurt her ... Hamida Bano has shouted at Jalal too in the past.

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