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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi, Mansi,


Episode was, full energatic, seing, feeling come, Everywomen feeled Proud to see, Yesterday Episode.Female showed, Real inner qualites, Which was needed this Tough Time.


1, Proud for Jodha, when she said,If anybody with her on not, She will fight ALONE.

( Yes, She is not looseing hope, Dying is not a slouation, Facing HARD situations in life , is very,tough, But After facing situations which reamainsThats very PRECIOUS in life, or Main,
we learn, to tackle Hard situations in, life, Others Also learn, its not easy, Come & Attack on
women, because, Its their HAKK, NO, These type of persons, LEARN , if they will try, these type of stupidness, ready for, their Downfall.

2, Jodha well said to AM, now your HARM women's not like to live in your HAREM, because everywomen, wants to safe, first, dignity point.

3, Liked ZAkira, CHOOTA PACKET BADDA DHAMMAL, she know how to prepare poision, & poision after falling, that person will attundum die,, Yes A small ANT become cause of, Elephant death. So this weapon is great.😆 ,Main Zakira also wants to participate in War this way, Not necessary, everbody fight with weapon, Using Brain, correct time is also a weapon,
so HUMM KISSI SEE KAMm NAHI,👏 👏.


4, Liked Rahim energy, his energy totally bind all harem ladies, everybody now wants to
Try, to Fight result what will come see After,👏 👏

5, Ruk did good job, she tried her best, but Main thing was, JODHA LEADERSHIP,

Energatic speech, needed that time, Death sure one day will come, but why we die, loosing hope, try your best, result will sure come, poisitve, if not your CONCIOUS will not feel guilt.

6,Liked Salima, Recalled jhansi kee Rani, she fought, with enemies, Bind child her back,

(so many ex, in our History, BRAVERY of WOMEN, But how she completing her duties, as a MOTHER, & as a BEGUM, or main HER DIGNITY.

7, GB, who is writing a HAMAYUANNAMA, but KNOWS, HOW to defeat the enemies, IDEA was brilliant, LAL MIRCHI, yes which hands can write BOOKS, that hands can fight also.👏 👏

8, HB, trying, giving energy, to all, but OWN checking, OIL weapon, HOT oil,😆 😆

9, Jodha walking steps were looking, AFTER Picking sword, she will be come KALLI ROOP,

then AM or other enemies kee KHAIR NAHI.⭐️ ⭐️

10, Much angery, for NIGAR,😡 😡, she is saying, if jalal will tell about CB, his begums will not Misuse;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;HOW A WOMEN, think Other women will misuse,🤢 🤢,
But if we see truthfully, It happens in REAL LIFE. Many ex we read in NEWS-PAPER, SICK people😡 😡

But liked all Female power collected , & decided to fight,

Satthi Haath badhana, ekk ekla thakk jyega Mil kar bhogh, uthana. (Song line)

if femal decides surrender to AM, what, will come, NOTHING, but now which way choosed by Ladies, they should OWN feel proud for that.

Fight is also a Pooza, if we do for Right reason, Krishna own said in GEETA, i not want, you always Pray in temples, for me, But he adviced, Choose Right Time Right Way,


YES jodha did a great Job, Wife duties are many, She is warrior, if she sits sielentely, no need for her warriorness, After coming jalal will feel sure PROUD for JODHA.

If she encourged everyone, GREAT, she has a quality of binding a team, & team is also
co-operative JODHA, all femals gaining, their BRAVENESS, they are beliving yes they can do it, when will power, comes, HALF FIGHT, you win before FIGHTING,

GOD help those who help themselves.

Fight scene was awesome, War techniques were GOOD, War weapons were GREAT,👏 👏

When jodha was Saying, My Womb, child is also fighting, Salaute to this lady, What a will POWER, & she knows how to use it, song was beautiful & emotional.

Yes she deserves THE POST OF MALLIKA HINDUSTAN⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️👏 👏

Feeling proud, we daily dicuss, Mansi your thread, These HONOURABLE COUPLE.⭐️ ⭐️


Song land

(MERE sanso koo, joo mahka rahi hee, teri sanso see shyad aaa rahi hee, yee phale pyar kee khshubu,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so COULPE breathing are connecting to eahother.

AM, was Fallen knees of Jodha,he deserves that, but liked, NO forgiveness for Who sees women in Cheap eyes.👏 👏, Now after this war,

No -Body will think easily, attack on HAREM, now people will know, JALAl begums are FIGHTERS, They know how to handle Enemies.😆 😆 😆 😆

Precap, JALAL is back,😃 😃, but yes wounded LION is dangerous, so ready for DHAMMAL, today.😆 😆

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Ayushi, this is a beautiful post ... as usual. The point which I liked best is where you have written that as Krishna said, a fight is also a form of puja. That is truly insightful point. And Jodha being a Krishna bakht has seen the value of various forms of puja to God which includes also the protection of those who are fearful of attack by others. Especially when women protect their own dignity I think the puja aspect is at its most powerful.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



superb take, Ayushi...


Thanks Diksha.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Do we really leave in 21st century? No, I m not asking it to anybody particular as such... Coz this was the question I asked myself yest, after the episode , when I had a fight with my own brother... he mocked the episode, specially Salima when she was shown to take Rahim tied on her back and fights the war... But while mocking , my brother simply forgot one thing, that he has taken fight on his sister that is me... and yes, he paid for that... coz after that he couldn't watch any of the programme he wanted to watch, as I took off the card from set top box and so the TV was out of service, till he said sorry... Later I gave back the card, but with one small advice, never mess up with me for anything...later my mom asked me, ok ,u fought with him, and being ur brother he too accepted that he shouldn't have mocked like that, but how u will react with outsiders?? Coz even today, there r many men who can't take a woman as their boss or don't like the superiority of women...

I know mom was right... coz I face this thing daily... and frankly, I have very sweet relationship with both my siblings , and such fights we have many times, coz my bro is gr8 prankster and I m his usual target...

Friends, We so usually talk of equality... where it is? And I won't blame only men for that... Let's be true to ourselves... How many woman in today's era r independent , not just with their careers but even in decision making of their own lives? Fortunately , I have got that freedom , I live my life on my own terms, with a fantastic career and a very loving family... But this is true that my very dear friend doesn't enjoy this freedom, even when she is financially independent...i have seen her always in two minds, so has she lost her confidence in herself...why so?

No friends, I m not in any philosophical mood , but yest night after the episode , I visited forum and few takes left me shocked... why so much hatred, that too for a character of the show? And this hatred / mocking of Jo's character was mostly from girls...

Why still many of us want that a male lead of the show should always be a superhero, and a female lead should be a supportive to a male lead??? And if we want her to be supportive to that of our dream hero, how can we even call her lead character... Coz if any one character is expected to be USP of the show, then every other character will be supportive...and if both r lead then both should be treated the same way...

I know , here many will complain that, if that is the case, then why Jodha is doing all herogiri and why Jalal is shown fool??? But no, I don't think, he is shown a fool... I feel he is simply shown a human , and that's what is not acceptable to many of us... coz we see our dream man in Jalal , and expect that he should be a superhero... And superhero should be with all super powers, he is just not accepted to show his human side, coz humans r thought as weak ppl, and superheroes r avatar of GOD...

Another question is , they r killing Jalal / Akbar's character... in history , he was never like this... Then, do we really want to see real history? If yes, then why we have problem with his relationship with Ruku or any other woman? Coz whether we like it or not , the truth is that he was very close to Ruku, always, and for all her life she stayed as his chief consert...

I m not blaming anybody... but why we can't just enjoy these things? Why we r always trying to find out some or other mistake , and that too only in Jodha's character... And I m asking this even to myself, coz even i many time say such things...

Anyway, coming back to yest episode... Just loved it... and truly watched it at least 10 times... and no , this is not a joke... and what I loved... Then I loved everything... I loved MA, I loved Ruku, loved HB,, GB, GA, loved MB, Zakira , loved Salima, , but mostly I loved both Jalal and my Jodha...

I loved Jalal, coz he felt so much as a human , than a superhero... a 22 boy king, who certainly is not a fool... who is king of a kings...who at such young has everything with him, power, wealth , and anything any man would dream of... but there was a child inside him that craved for the relations he can hold on... and now when he knew he had one older sister, he wants her to take that place in his life... He is not fool to try to convince her to last hope... Coz nothing is wrong in hoping... His fate had made him suffer a lot and stay alone in his childhood, and now when he can see new relations in his life he is just trying to grab it... There is nothing wrong in that... If Nigar can't understand what a gem her brother is, then she is unfortunate... Coz she has tried his patience , and now when she will know the truth, when she will be proved wrong, this same brother is going to be there to console her, with his head held high, but then it will be her who won't be able to meet his eyes... Jalal ll be right where he has been always... the mighty Shehenshah who is loved , supported and respected by all...

And then my dear Jo... what strength she showed...she fought for her self respect, but more than that she fought for her husband's honour... had it been the case of just her self respect, I m sure she would have chosen Jauhar, not war... but when she decided to fight, it was more coz now she is not just a woman, she is a Begum of a mighty Shehenshah who loves and trusts her as his soul... how could have she given up without fight?

Anyway this was how I feel abt Jalal and Jodha in my mind... but even what CVs have shown , I just loved it... Mali's character was just like those , who take woman for granted , like she is a plaything... I don't understand how can anybody underestimate the strength a woman posses? How can anybody forget, that if a woman holds the strength to give birth to a kid, then she also holds the strength to fight for he own... Just like a woman can make a world, she even can break that world... Mali made same mistake ... He underestimated woman power, and so he has to face the consequences...

And I must appreciate CVs for the way they showed every woman present there, making herself useful in this war against the devil, in her own possible way... so different methods used, but so much logical... yes, if the fight is btw the men, we will certainly expect it to be by using the weapons, so when the women r fighting, it was really so perfect that they r using those weapons with which they r more used to ... Simply superb...

Diksha, I was waiting for your post and I must say it was mind broadening and very very thoughtfully written. I am as surprised to hear from you that there are people who feel that Jodha should be an object of ridicule for her "herogiri" and especially so when Jalal is being shown as "dumb".
I totally agree with you that neither is Jalal dumb, nor should Jodha be berated for her valour in a situation like this. It is a different matter entirely if these portrayals are true to history or not, but here the question I am asking is more broader in nature than just about historical figures. The law of life and the claims of superiority and inferiority should be the same for any man and women whether they are from the lowest strata of society or they are kings and queens, and whether they are from the present century or the 16th century.
My mother always used to tell me that more than men putting down women, its the women who put down other women and thus weaken all of us women in the eyes of men. I am beginning to see the truth of that statement when I see other women putting down Jodha and wanting always that Jalal should be the hero.
I also find it a bit strange when some women daily tune in to see a show which openly advertises that "Jalal was changed by Jodha" and yet that is exactly what they don't want? They don't want to see Jalal changed by Jodha? Then why watch this show which is all about Jodha changing Jalal?
I too am from a family where men and women are treated as equal. And that's why I am also a firm believer myself that neither one sex is superior to the other, and so men and women are equals, and any one of them, or both of them can be strong and soft at the same time. It is not a crime for a man to be soft and neither is it a crime for a woman to be strong. In fact both men and women need to be both strong and soft at the same time. These old stereotypes of men and women having to be only this way and not that way are the fantasy of closed minds.
What makes me sad and betrayed by such commentary about Jodha and Jalal is that its most often the women who want the males to be exalted and the women subservient, and they want the males to be somehow shown superior in prowess than the women ... and what is more, they get vehemently upset if the reverse is shown at any time. To take the point further, I expect and anticipate that women of an older generation would have more stereotyped opinions, and so I don't give too much credence to them ... but sometimes its hard to watch even very much younger women clinging to the older stereotypes.
But everyone ultimately is entitled to their own opinion, I suppose, even those women who like to put down other women. I therefore don't want to make anyone change their mind if they wish to be narrow. I just feel sorry for people who don't have balance - and then I just leave them to learn the simple truths of life balance in their own speed and time. Life is a beautiful teacher, and sooner or later everybody learns what is the truth of life, and that is that in the eyes of God, all creatures are absolutely equal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: skanda12

Diksha, I was waiting for your post and I must say it was mind broadening and very very thoughtfully written. I am as surprised to hear from you that there are people who feel that Jodha should be an object of ridicule for her "herogiri" and especially so when Jalal is being shown as "dumb".
I totally agree with you that neither is Jalal dumb, nor should Jodha be berated for her valour in a situation like this. It is a different matter entirely if these portrayals are true to history or not, but here the question I am asking is more broader in nature than just about historical figures. The law of life and the claims of superiority and inferiority should be the same for any man and women whether they are from the lowest strata of society or they are kings and queens, and whether they are from the present century or the 16th century.
My mother always used to tell me that more than men putting down women, its the women who put down other women and thus weaken all of us women in the eyes of men. I am beginning to see the truth of that statement when I see other women here putting down Jodha and wanting always that Jalal should be the hero.
I also find it a bit strange when some women daily tune in to see a show which openly advertises that "Jalal was changed by Jodha" and yet that is exactly what they don't want? They don't want to see Jalal changed by Jodha? Then why watch this show which is all about Jodha changing Jalal?
I too am from a family where men and women are treated as equal. And that's why I am also a firm believer myself that neither one sex is superior to the other, and so men and women are equals, and any one of them, or both of them can be strong and soft at the same time. It is not a crime for a man to be soft and neither is it a crime for a woman to be strong. In fact both men and women need to be both strong and soft at the same time. These old stereotypes of men and women having to be only this way and not that way are the fantasy of closed minds.
What makes me sad and betrayed by such commentary about Jodha and Jalal is that its most often the women who want the males to be exalted and the women subservient, and they want the males to be somehow shown superior in prowess than the women ... and what is more, they get vehemently upset if the reverse is shown at any time.
But everyone ultimately is entitled to their own opinion, I suppose, even those women who like to put down other women. I therefore don't want to make anyone change their mind if they wish to be narrow. I just feel sorry for people who don't have balance - and then I just leave them to learn the simple truths of life balance in their own speed and time. Life is a beautiful teacher, and sooner or later everybody learns what is the truth of life, and that is that in the eyes of God, all creatures are absolutely equal.



thanks , Mansi...

unfortunately, it's true that even in today's society the talks of equality r only on paper... when it comes in front of u, all talks go out of window...

i face it daily... even today , many men do not like that a woman is counselling them... i m asked many times, how u ll understand our problems, or even few women ask me how can u give advice to our husband? i ask them, why can't i? and they actually say, u r woman, and much younger, how u ll understand the problem?

u know, my professor always say, maturity doesn't come after year's of experience... a person can be mature in very young age if he/she belongs to a mature , and good surrounding

but, yes, this is the fact... our society is still very much imbalanced, and the truth is we ourselves r to blame for that for our stereotype mindsets

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi u wrote it all..nothing to add! complete justice to episode! 👏
one of the best episodes till date..it had everything..action, emotion, pain, drama everything!🥳
a seeti maar indeed!
best thing was everyone was utilized fairly..from Jodha to Ruqu to HB to Gulbadan to Resham to MA to Zakira everyone!👏 none of them were kept as showpiece..everyone contributed..well done CVs!👍🏼 the camera work, acting, screenplay, direction were lajawaab! I wish I could whistle coz this particular epi hell deserves few of it!👏
the new BG had me in tears..it was so emotional..though the torturing Jalal scene was too much!!🥺 they could have avoided it.
precap was cherry on the cake...the Jallad Jalal is back..🥳this time he wont be lesser than haivan I swear.😎

Nigar must burn alive!!!🤬
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Ayushi, this is a beautiful post ... as usual. The point which I liked best is where you have written that as Krishna said, a fight is also a form of puja. That is truly insightful point. And Jodha being a Krishna bakht has seen the value of various forms of puja to God which includes also the protection of those who are fearful of attack by others. Especially when women protect their own dignity I think the puja aspect is at its most powerful.


Agree, you Mansi, i read in History, book, GARGI was very intelligent women, she knows about VED, that time female less read. She gives mostely ques ans, intelligenci, after ansing GARGI, NOone can't argu her, so when intelligent people meet, GARGI also visits, that, comouncation area, Others were MAlE, only female was GARGI, others man irritate from GARGI, but her Willpower & intelligenci was Kammal,

Femals only does PRAYERS, that time, so they said, to GARGI, WHY you go to MAN:S assembely, you should do PRAYERS, PEACE comes in life.

GARGI ans was, GOD has given everyone, QUALITES, i know about VED, VED discusson is worship for me if person use them then PEACE will come, if we use our qualties, in a right way, or right time, its also a worship.

i am female, so i can.t participate, male, discussons, i am capable, i can argu, them
if you can't leave prayers, why can i leave my, Speech knoweledge of VEDS,, that's my worship.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Mansi u wrote it all..nothing to add! complete justice to episode! 👏

one of the best episodes till date..it had everything..action, emotion, pain, drama everything!🥳
a seeti maar indeed!
best thing was everyone was utilized fairly..from Jodha to Ruqu to HB to Gulbadan to Resham to MA to Zakira everyone!👏 none of them were kept as showpiece..everyone contributed..well done CVs!👍🏼 the camera work, acting, screenplay, direction were lajawaab! I wish I could whistle coz this particular epi hell deserves few of it!👏
the new BG had me in tears..it was so emotional..though the torturing Jalal scene was too much!!🥺 they could have avoided it.
precap was cherry on the cake...the Jallad Jalal is back..🥳this time he wont be lesser than haivan I swear.😎

Nigar must burn alive!!!🤬

Tamy, yes thank God this torture of Jalal will now stop torturing us. He is back in form and both Jalal and Jodha are now exactly as we love to see them. I agree with you that the episode "utilised" the talents of every actor, every Creative person and the directorial team beautifully. I looked at the episode many times since I had to write this long post, but no matter how many times I saw it I never got bored. It is just a very well produced and memorable package!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi!
Its been long i m not able to read ur analysis and was terrible missing them!! But after yesterday's episode i really made time to read ur analysis! I loved the episode yesterday and ur analysis of it is too good!!

Loved how they all fought for themselves...jallu will b very proud!! I m eagerly waiting to know how Jallu gets free and how he reacts seeing his begums in action...it will b a kodak moment for sure!!

Thanks for ur wonderful analysis as always dear!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, what do u think ll be tonight's episode?

Nigar left Jalal to go and capture his harem... here at encampment fight is on btw women and Mali army... Jo is all set to kill Mali, with her sword raised...

so what will happen? we know Mali is not killed by her... but watch it , when he fell to ground, there is some weapon in front of him... will he use that? or will Nigar reach there and take on Jodha and so we ll get to see Jo-Nigar fight...

but ll mali take this opportunity to strike back? i think he ll, but just then Adham ll be there and ll fight with Mali on MA's instruction... at the same time, Jalal ll be free with help of Maan, and ll reach encampment, and may find Nigar overpowering Jo, and so Jalal will fight with Nigar... i don't know why , but i feel finally he will let go of his Nigar aapa jaap, and fight with her...

but Mali will flee when he will find himself losing, and i m sure Adham will help him flee when he will see Jalal alive...
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Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Hi Mansi!
Its been long i m not able to read ur analysis and was terrible missing them!! But after yesterday's episode i really made time to read ur analysis! I loved the episode yesterday and ur analysis of it is too good!!

Loved how they all fought for themselves...jallu will b very proud!! I m eagerly waiting to know how Jallu gets free and how he reacts seeing his begums in action...it will b a kodak moment for sure!!

Thanks for ur wonderful analysis as always dear!
Love
Preet

Thanks Preet. Your words always encourage me! Thanks for that!

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