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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Good take, Mansi...this is 3rd time i m writing..twice i lost connection and my post was deleted... and now if i can't post properly, then i m not posting anything today...

yest was a blooper day...the first like u said... Jallu's wounds keep changing their places every 10 minutes... while fighting , it was at the center of his mouth and chin... later when Jo comes , it was at right corner of his mouth... and i precap : when he is in DEK ,there is no wound at all... ok, she will wash off the blood, and get fresh, but wound should be there right? which magic water Jallu uses, that when he washes his face , his wounds too get healed in a sec?

next , Jo , salima, HB all came too meet him , but no medicine was put on his wounds😲... even our lep queen was more concerned with "Nigarji", than her bleeding hubby... anyway i told myself Jallu is responsible for that... if his wounds change places every 10 minutes, then my poor Jo would have to make lep for whole day😉... and god knows , by the time she will bring the lep which new place his wound may have found... what if it got shifted to his chest?😳 Jallu is always ready to take off his jama, but my poor Jo... sharmake mar jayegi , bechari...😛 😃

anyway... next comes HB and MCB around 10/15 years back... see MCB's dress in Mughal style... isn't it same that Jo wore in Shivani -Mirza sangeet? isn't it same Ben wore on her mehendi? isn't it same Ruku keeps wearing sometime? so??? has Jallu lost all his wealth, that his begums r wearing old clothes of his step-mother?😲

and biggest one... Shenu abducts Rahim... the poor kid doesn't shout... she throws him off the horse, the kid is not injured , not unconscious, not even crying... has CVs lost the ability to think???


My God, Diksha, you really have very sharp eyes! I did notice the wound on Jalal's mouth changing places (as I SMSed you also yesterday) but the other bloopers escaped me. Yes indeed Rahim fell like a sack of potatoes and not one bit of crying! And now that I think of it that dress that MC wore in the flashback ... my God, they are totally recycling all the clothes.
Waise I already knew that these serials recycle clothes because a friend of my sister is the clothes designer for Sanjay Leela Bhansali and said that in his serial they were just dyeing the old clothes in new colours to get more outfits for the same money. But at least there the same heroine wore those different coloured clothes! But here they seem to be having the policy of making the same clothes fit Ben, MC and Jodha ...
...but one thing you have to tell me: when are they giving Maharana Pratap a new dress? On that grand day I will distribute sweets to the whole forum!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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My comments on the episode:

I think, folks, I am heartily tired of the political scenes at the Agra palace and at Kabul, and so I am really looking forward to some real war action for a change. At least it should be fun to watch. Jalal will be good with his moves and if they are planning to include Jodha in the action as well, that should also be good. For the rest we can enjoy watching the Dandiya!

The thing that I am not able to comprehend is where Salima fits in with her war costume and where Ruq fits in with her bow and arrows? Do these two women also feel impelled to join the war because of Jodha being a key part of the charge?

Even if they are showing the war, how long can they show it going on? Maybe for a maximum of three days with intermittent non-war scenes woven into the script? Can they afford to show a war for a whole week or will that get too monotonous?

Will they show that Nigar is killed by Jodha accidentally as part of the war action ... or will there be a twist in the tale when Nigar is actually killed off by Maham or Mahchuchak. Maybe, just before she dies, Nigar gets to know that Jalal is not her mother's captor because her mother is found by then and is in her right senses and drills the truth into her daughter that it was Maham not Jalal who kidnapped her?

My mind has started going in this direction because I do think Nigar will be killed for her cameo to end. But before that we may have some heart-rending scenes where she gets to know that she was wrong about Jalal and become utterly remorseful in death

There are many, many possibilities now ... so there are several open questions in my mind, all hanging as loose unresolved strands of thought:

1. Maham now has no more use for Nigar or her mother, especially if Nigar has already found the farman and has whatever she needs to ascend to the Delhi takht by vanquishing Jalal. So the question that seems most important to me now is whether Maham will have to forget about getting Delhi for her son and just manage to cover her backside on the Chand Begum kidnap issue? In that case would it not serve Maham better to try and kill off Nigar (and make it look like part of the battle or fleeing) and would Maham also not be better off killing Chand Begum rather than risking exposure as Chand Begum's kidnapper? Yesterday when Adham brought the news of all that was happening to Maham, for once I saw Maham behind the times. She had seemed to have lots her sharpness if she wasn't even aware of the goings-on at the palace. And when she did come to know from Adham, her first instinct was fear that Nigar may tell Jalal that Maham encouraged her to fight Jalal. Maham's greatest fear now is exposure on the Nigar-knowledge and Chand begum-kidnap front. So I think both Chand Begum and Nigar are at risk of death from Maham now.

2. Incidentally, how come Adham Khan was escorting Jalal into the surang in yesterday's precap? Has Adham decided to go against his mother out of pity for Chand Begum (he was already showing pity for her when he first saw Chand Begum) or does Adham think that if he lets Jalal get Chand Begum in this mad state, Jalal will no longer gun for his mother and Jalal will never get the truth from a mad Chand Begum?

3. When exactly will suspicions on Maham being the captor of Chand Begum surface? And how? Contingent upon that is Hamida remembering the strange behaviour of Maham in the forest area?

4. We also know that Mahchuchak just needed Nigar to start the war with Jalal, but I think the minute the army of Mahchuchak is at Agra, Mahchuchak will ensure that Nigar is killed and she will then continue the war against Jalal for her own benefit. So that is enemy No. 2 gunning for Nigar's life.

5. Jodha and Jalal may try very hard to capture Nigar rather than kill her as they want desperately to put her straight on her wrong notions about Jalal kidnapping her mother and snatching her inheritance. But will Jodha and Jalal manage to get Nigar without accidentally killing her? And does Jalal refuse to fight his own sister and this then causes Jodha to enter the war instead? Will Jalal enter the war after Nigar is out of it, either killed or injured or captured?

6. Will Abul Mali join the Mahchuchak forces at Agra?

7. Will Chand Begum be seen by Jalal? I have a feeling she will because if Maham kills her off too quickly a large part of the story will get erased unexploited. I suspect that at some point the Gwalior Hakim's treatment will yield a non-mad Chand Begum, and I also feel that somehow she is going to overturn this whole Nigar angle by saying "I lost my baby in her infancy. My child died in my arms and that's why I became psychotic and kept holding onto the doll. This girl who calls herself Nigar is in fact not my real daughter at all. My daughter had some distinguishing birthmarks which this girl doesn't have. Could she be a plant of that daasi woman? Or could she be a plant of Maham via that daasi woman in order to be able to find that farman?" Alternatively, if Chand Begum does acknowledge Nigar as her long-lost daughter she may well straighten out Nigar by saying "My daughter you have got it all wrong. Todarmal is a decent man you have besmirched. It was he who took me safely to Humayun at Agra before you were born. And Jalal knows nothing about the farman and khazana your father left for you!"

8. I also feel that Chand Begum's captivity and ill-treatment by Maham will come out from the mouth of Chand Begum and thus Maham will get exposed despite her meticulous plans not to get exposed. (Now I am still stuck on the Zee man saying that when Maham goes down she will take Ruq also down with her. So could it be that Ruq gets too aggressive with Maham when Maham gets caught and in return Maham exposes her in front of Jalal?)

9. How will the war end and when? Will it end with the death of Nigar and the driving away of Mahchuchak forces by Jalal? In the meantime, will Hakim join Jalal's forces against his mother's army or will he change sides at this point?

10. What was that dialogue of Mahchuchak for, when she tells Fazal to kill off all the soldiers of her own army that do not fight for her with full loyalty. Will there be a scenario where Mahchuchak's own armies are turned against each other within their own ranks, where the loyal ones try to kill the disloyal ones and thus eat up their own strength?

11. When do Jodha's brothers join the war? And what about this enmity brewing between Mansingh and Hakim Mirza? Will we see that start?

12. Is this war only about the resolution of Nigar, Chand Begum, Maham and Ruq or is this war setting the stage for greater action hereafter on the Mahchuchak versus Jalal angle, when the politics will be less within the Agra palace and be more about Agra versus Kabul?

Folks, here I am guided to an extent by what the Zee man told me on phone two days ago. He said that within one month we will get things resolved in this order: First there will be the war, then the discovery of Chand Begum, then the exposure of Maham, and then via Maham the exposure of Ruq. I have no reason to doubt this Zee man who spoke to me for he was the same man who had said some correct things before.

If this is the case then all the attempts by Jalal to find Chand Begum immediately may fail, and the war may start and only after that Chand Begum may be found.

I am feeling as if there are lots of loose ends all around me but I am not sure how to make them all fall into a story pattern at this stage. At the same time I am eagerly looking forward to the war and to see how the pieces of this complex puzzle will all fit eventually. Any guesses any one?

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Interesting questions , Mansi...but i don't think, MA will choose to kill Nigar... remember she still has that farmaan...

rather the foremost concern for MA now is to shift CB to any such place where Jalal will not be able to reach and so she is saved for atleast for some days...

then may be while Jallu discusses abt the farmaan of inheritence , Nigar has with her, then MA will come to know abt it... and then she can blackmail Nigar to get the farmaan by using CB as pawn...but before that the war should be over and Nigar caught... and i feel that will be when MA ll blackmail Nigar with CB, then Nigar and Jallu will come to know that MA is behind CB kidnapping, and he may play the game with help of Nigar and MA will be caught red-handed, CB rescued...

i feel this may happen in next 2 weeks... coz tonight and tom will be wasted in showing Jallu's useless commanders and army and even more useless detective team, trying to find CB, and then they will get the news of MCB revolting against Jallu and sent her army to kill Jallu and take over Agra takht...

let's not expect anything more from CVs..

i ll rather count new bloopers in today's episode...




Edited by sweet_diksha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: skanda12

My God, Diksha, you really have very sharp eyes! I did notice the wound on Jalal's mouth changing places (as I SMSed you also yesterday) but the other bloopers escaped me. Yes indeed Rahim fell like a sack of potatoes and not one bit of crying! And now that I think of it that dress that MC wore in the flashback ... my God, they are totally recycling all the clothes.
Waise I already knew that these serials recycle clothes because a friend of my sister is the clothes designer for Sanjay Leela Bhansali and said that in his serial they were just dyeing the old clothes in new colours to get more outfits for the same money. But at least there the same heroine wore those different coloured clothes! But here they seem to be having the policy of making the same clothes fit Ben, MC and Jodha ...
...but one thing you have to tell me: when are they giving Maharana Pratap a new dress? On that grand day I will distribute sweets to the whole forum!



if MP becomes new hero of JA , he will surely get new dress😉...r u ready for that?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



if MP becomes new hero of JA , he will surely get new dress😉...r u ready for that?



Diksha, Who will be her heroine,😆 😆, But,Yee nahi hoo sakta.😆 😆

Mansi when you will disturibute, sweets i will stand in line No 1😆 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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JA is already loosing it's position... whoever decides TRPs... still now it's on no 4... and if this nonsence keeps going on with no of bloopers, trust me, by end of this month JA will be out of top 10...

CVs open ur eyes now... it's high time
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes Ayushi, super post! You are right, I think Humayun wrote a farman only for Nigar because he thought his sons are naturally going to get Agra and Kabul. But as you pointed out this MC wants to rule herself as a Queen she does not even want to give Kabul takht to her son! And she wnts Agra because Agra rules over Delhi and Kabul and the whole sultanate!

Guys, Seriously I am getting confused with this Farman. Initially we were told Humayun made a Farman for CB's child (while it was in her womb) while he was leaving for a war. So how the hell Every Tom, Dik & harry knows about it was written for Nigar????? He was not even aware about the gender of the child when he wrote that Farman.
I have been speculating on non existence of any such farman and was expecting it to be called Maham's creation as there should not any reason he leaves one portion of his land to the child on one Begum (CB)and leave nothing to other (MC). BUt the flashback of MC on talking about this with HB confuses me a lot. If Hamida knew about the Farman, why she didn't utter even a word to Jalal when Salima suggest him to search for CB? Or will they show it in today's episode? Does Humayun nama has this entry?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra



Diksha, Who will be her heroine,😆 😆, But,Yee nahi hoo sakta.😆 😆

Mansi when you will disturibute, sweets i will stand in line No 1😆 😆



how abt Shenu and MCB both as Ekta's MP's heroins???😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Diksha, remember we were all wondering how Nigar got that farman suddenly. Well, an idea has struck me, which I also wrote to Jaya. Do you remember that green cloth paigam that a lady sipahi brought for Nigar and entered her room and gave it. That sipahi actually said she is a wafaadaar of maham but when Nigar read that she said "mahchuchak is sending her army". Now we all assumed that Nigar was reading to us what was in the paigam, but could it be that it was not a paigam but a farman that Nigar receved? If so from whom? Maham or MC? Because the sipahi gave us that doubt, as she said she is wafaadaar of maham but we were wondering why she brought the paigam from MC? And could it be that Nigar was not reading to us what is in that farman but was in an unconnected way saying now that the farman was with her she is anticipating MC army?
What do you think? There is some gadbad in that sipahi scene for sure!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



if MP becomes new hero of JA , he will surely get new dress😉...r u ready for that?

If MP becomes hero of any serial I will shut down my TV forever!😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Guys, Seriously I am getting confused with this Farman. Initially we were told Humayun made a Farman for CB's child (while it was in her womb) while he was leaving for a war. So how the hell Every Tom, Dik & harry knows about it was written for Nigar????? He was not even aware about the gender of the child when he wrote that Farman.
I have been speculating on non existence of any such farman and was expecting it to be called Maham's creation as there should not any reason he leaves one portion of his land to the child on one Begum (CB)and leave nothing to other (MC). BUt the flashback of MC on talking about this with HB confuses me a lot. If Hamida knew about the Farman, why she didn't utter even a word to Jalal when Salima suggest him to search for CB? Or will they show it in today's episode? Does Humayun nama has this entry?



Jaya, tu kyun apna khoon jala rahi hai , yaar?? Jab Shenu/Nigar hi fake niklegi, to farmaan to fake hi hoga na...

else let's think, CB has later found that baandi and her daughter, and stayed with them for few years... but surprisingly, after the war was over she never tried to contact with Humayun... and ask for her right...she stayed with same baandi in her small hut...

God!! all this is beyond our imagination... CVs really r taking viewers for fool...
Edited by sweet_diksha - 11 years ago

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