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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know - today was not the perfect day for a take 5- but I wanted to recognize Jalal and Todarmal's efforts today.

You know I hate this track attacking Todarmal's character more than anything else (Remember my thread from last week) ... As I said last week, It is natural we are upset- obviously it is hard to see a person who is respected so much in both history and the show accused of such a heinous crimes by someone who is supposedly of royal lineage ... And that too a woman act as a victim of the worst thing that could happen to her.

That still holds. What made this even worse was Jodha's and Zee's positioning that what they showed today was to show how women need to stand up for themselves and have a voice ... But, I have always believed that the right cause and justice was above gender. Women's rights is a part and parcel of human rights.

It was difficult to see Jodha defend Shehnaaz with strongest of dialogues, go against Jalal, and not waver once seeing Jalal's conviction and belief in Todarmal. However, it was circumstances and the CVs that made Jodha in the wrong today ... Yes, she did not have to be that strong in her defense ... But she is allowed to make this mistake given circumstances.

Jalal also once doubted Jodha's character given circumstances ... And then many, including me, understood his circumstances but did not agree with his impulsive anger. Similarly, I think it is only fair we give Jodha some slack ... She is a victim of circumstances and Shehnaaz's plotting. The only question is why does she trust Shehnaaz so much?

However, just as the key was Jalal has always learned from his mistakes ... my only ray of hope is that Jodha learns from her mistakes as well through this track. This is not the first time she has misjudged character- remember Sharifuddhin? So, let's hope for the best or I see no reason why she was vehemently shown to defend Shehnaaz and attack Todarmal today.

While today was not Jodha's day, I felt Jalal and Todarmal stood out today and that is what my take 5 will focus on:

(1) Jalal-Todarmal-Atgah talk politics: I was glad Jalal could talk about something beyond babies and flirting ... He not only won a war but also discussed the taxes issue with Todarmal. I am glad he had not forgotten about these issues,

Again, with Maan Singh's victory, it was nice to see the rise of another Navratan.

And our other navaratan, Rahim was super cute today.

(2) In the Jodha-Jalal interactions, the romance was sweet but the same as usual. But, I liked Jodha recognizing how Jalal's goodness made him choose the right people on his court ... As this is always what I said, Jalal did take advice and was supported by people ... But it was his goodness that he recognized the right people for the right things.

The problem was Jodha forgot Jalal's sense of judgement later in the episode.

(3) Jalal trusted Todarmal ... Continues to be a testament of his good sense of judgement and hats off to Jalal for trusting Todamal

And he rightly asked Todarmal, why he didn't tell him before. But mistakes make you human.

(4) Jalal held his own in front of Jodha: I am glad Jalal held his own in front of Jodha when he knew he was in the right ... Both in their personal interaction as well as the DEK where he gave Todarmal openings to defend himself.

(5) Todarmal continues to give himself a strong defense ... And I love his continued composure and logic in difficult times. Hence, he would be the Navratan that he was. After all, gold glistens when under fire.

Let's see how it plays out ... After all Shehnaaz will end up losing in the end of the day and we will see Jalal and Todarmal coming out stronger for this ... And hopefully, Jodha as well!



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divya, one point that strikes me - Jodha has seem the burn wound on Shenu's hand before and would know if there is a change in the wound would she not???? So if Shenu has deliberately burnt her hand with hot water to protect herself, Jodha shd know the difference in the earlier burn and what the burn is now shd she not????

This makes me stop to think - perhaps rt. from the questioning of Zakira this may have been a planned enterprise - yes I know I am being too optimistic (they call it Micawberian optimism after the character of Mr. Micawber from David Copperfield) - and our CVs do not have the capacity for this - but for a moment if we think - Zee has made this episode a stand on women empowerment - would they play with something as serious as rape????

All we saw in the earlier epi of thursday was that Jalal mentions to Jodha of Zakira knowing about poisons and both are shown serious and thinking and it cuts to DEK for Zakira's questioning - so what if Jalal says that Zakira's bg makes her the perfect pawn for such an accusation and adds that if we call her for questioning we will definitely find the bottle of poison in her room thus making her the fall guy by the real culprit - and as it is these 2 had zeroed in on 3 ppl - Moti, Zakira and Shehnaaz - and since Moti has been around too long and all her antecedents known so the remaining 2 become main suspects - and Zakira's knowledge of poisons automatically makes her suspect and thus perfectly placed to be used as a pawn - so maybe just maybe Jalal gets Jodha and Atgha and TM on to this mode of enquiry - as Jodha said TM took permission to enquire Moti and Zakira from Jalal so when Jodha asks if he did so for Shenu - Jalal keeps mum - but silence does not mean yes all the time (mounam samadam is not an eternal reality) - infact even in the Jalal TM convo we only see Jalal saying why did you no tell me this - we do not know what it was that TM did not tell Jalal.

All in all, I am going to wait till monday - but I will say this Jodha does need to learn the lesson of her own limitations.
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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finally i will get to see jodha wrong and jalal right at last!!!!!!! *victory dances*... sorry guys.. but its just damn irritating to see jodha giving bashan after bashan and jalal just nodding his head. finally we see jalal not caving into jodha's adamancy.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Let's party Divya our Arrogant stubborn bhasan queen is back 😃 🥱 .
Today's episode was really worse. Thnk god u posted Divya. Ur positive 5 can only give me some peace after this epi.
And Seriously Zee promoted it as Nari- ki- jeet. 😡 . SN jaisi nario ki jeet hone lagi na toh kudha bachaye duniya ke mardo ko. U know na how much My dad likes Jo. Today even he got irritated with her bhasans .
We all know SN was right so what was the need of giving Jo dialogue like this in DEK. And just like before Jo again started her stubbornness. She is right and everyone and especially Jalal is wrong. She didn't listen to Jalal at all. She is all busy with her nari ka samman. I have the same question she choose SN over her husband? Why? Why she trust her so much?
Her bhasans and attitude in DEK was so irritating I wanted Ja to tell her something. I was glad when he said Khamosh. But she again started. And I was laughing thinking what will be her face like when SN's truth will come out. She will make a big fool out of herself infront of the whole family and DEK. But Jo really need to learn this lesson and for this she needs to fall hard. She bring Babu inside the harem. Okay I know that kid was innocent and what would have happened if he was evil send by some enemy. Here she brought SN in the mahal. She will keep doing this if she didn't learn a lesson. Then every enemy will target her use her mahanta and will emotionally blackmail her and enter the harem. She doesn't realise the risk of it. I will Beg to Ruk to bring this topic on DEK. That it all happened because of her stupidity. She is too naive and emotional she needs to control. I won't say anything to Rukks then. I hope Jo learns her lesson and for the first time in this show apologize to TM and Ja. And I want an public apology to TM in DEK from her.
I love Ja's belief in TM. He was sure he is innocent. That's why he was so angry and restless in DEK knowing that an innocent will get punish. I hope Ja uses his teda tatics and bring SN's truth out in DEK next day.
I love Ja and TM.today. TM was so clam even when Jo was accusing him like that.
And Jo I m highly irritated with her and the cvs. After this if she brings out SN's truth instead of Ja or if she don't apologize to Ja and TM. This time she will not be able to rise in my eyes again. I forget her arrogance in the MU track but this time it won't be easy.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Divya for keeping up the spirit. As u said this will indeed be a reality check for Jo. How I wish she could have at least thought once that she has been in TM's position many many times. ALso now both Zakira and TM says they have not done. Yet I am keeping that little hope in Jo and hoping she will make me proud next week.:) . Yes loved JA and TM today.
Edited by SindhuMenon - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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ok few things i wanted jalal to say in DEK trial, or maybe later & im srry if i sound harsh. 1stly, as per jodha todermal didnt discussed about shehnaaz with anyone before following her, but jodha also did the same when she met sujamal at night. 2ndly, she said tht todermal entered the harem where men r not allowed, but sujamal also did the same. wht if sumone had accused sujamal in the same way??? 3rdly, proofs were also there against moti during the adham rape attempt track & also against her during ruku's MC, but proofs can also be planted. i dont know whether CVs will allow jalal to speak up or not but i really want jalal to say these points. its gud to see jalal's trust on todermal but if due to jodha's lectures he looses it will again prove him weak. i know jodha is not aware of the truth & she really cares for a woman's respect, but still jalal shouldnt loose his belief & does proper investigation befor he takes any decision.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: najma123

finally i will get to see jodha wrong and jalal right at last!!!!!!! *victory dances*... sorry guys.. but its just damn irritating to see jodha giving bashan after bashan and jalal just nodding his head. finally we see jalal not caving into jodha's adamancy.


Yes, loved Jalal's judgement and conviction today ...

But I am waiting for the track when BOTH Jodha and Jalal are right
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm


Yes, loved Jalal's judgement and conviction today ...

But I am waiting for the track when BOTH Jodha and Jalal are right



Divya, u just might get it with this one!!!!!!😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great take as usual Divyam.

I have never had good opinions about these Mah (crap) episodes, especially from Balaji and Ekta.

Yeah.. I know, Todarmal is one of the best characters loved in history for his loyalty to Akbar. Its crappy, this natkiya roopanthar is getting on our nerves.

But, just now read about the new promo where Shehnaaz is exposed. Phew.. thank god, this Thodarmal crap is not dragged.

Viji
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Divya I am wondering if this a plan of Jalal and Todarmal. Only 2 things make me wonder this
The scene in Jalal's hojara where Jalal straight away without asking a single Q told Todarmal he doesn't believe he can do this. When Todarmal told everything to Jalal - Todarmal told Jalal now he has to find out the truth and go to root of it something like this. Jalal then said how do we go about this? Jalal will never trust Shehnaz over Todarmal.

In DEK Todarmal defended calmly but he did not look worried to me.

I wonder if we might get a fb where Jalal and Todarmal told Jodha all this and also Todarmal tell Jodha about meeting Zakira and the scar on Shehnaz's hand.

What if this is plot of Jalal and Todarmal to make Shehnaz believe she succeeded? Otherwise Shehnaz would have acted more crazy in DEK.

BTW Shehnaz looked worried when Hakim was asked to inspect her hand, only 2 persons could have got Hakim to say this was water burn - MA or Jalal/Todarmal.

If Shehnaz believes she succeeded then easier to find out her truth.

When Jalal on proof sent Zakira to jail - why did when Hakim said the burn was due to water - not announce anything but asked for 1 day to decide. Trying to take a positive spin on this ME!

What does Zee think THIS was Nari Shakti vijay!!!!!

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