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Jallu never loved Jodha unconditionally ...I repeat NEVER ...How could he? when all his life he was surrounded by the likes of Ruku and MA...But it was Jo who loved him unconditionally...She drank poison for him without expecting any thing from him...She didn't know that she will survive...Can MA or BEK ever do this for him? Never...Infact even if BEK wants to win chess match against Jo she asks a farman in return...So what would poor Jallu know abt unconditional love...

Nabiii

Largely we forgot the main tagline of JA that was how would jodha make jalal insaan?

I read there is question raised if jalal can love without changing jodha why can't jodha love precedence jalal? So jodha's love for jalal is conditional..but my question is..the man jalal at the initial time we saw, was he worthy to get pure love frm anyone who only knew to give ans of blood is only blood, never took decision by cool mind, was just a puppet of maham n ruq's..now look at this present jalal, how much he is calm n taking his decision frm his heart n mind..if jodha wouldn't come in his life, did he ever think to come close to his subjects for informing their condition that wl make him not only a gud insaan to his subjects but also a great emperor!? There was very much influence in jalal's life of jodha to b changed as a person but there was no forced from jodha it was jalal who was automatically converted into a gud person getting a life companion like jodha..

There is another talk is gonna on that ruq loves only jalal unconditionally but was her unconditional love always compelled her not to come near jalal for consoling him when he was in agony, whats type of this uncondition love of ruq for this, jalal compelled abt to marry a VK..Ruq's teaching to jalal that he has no dil perhaps made him tyrant emperor if jodha wouldn't ever come in his life..i feel how much this new Jalal is embellished in his life..

Tamy267

I will only say one has no control over love..you cannot force yourself to love a person, you cannot force yourself to fall in...no matter how good a person is, if your heart doesnt permit or gives signal you will never feel the same for the other person..love just happens and no one can say when, why, how and where..conditional or unconditional ka toh sawal hi nahi uthta! like u said, love always will be unconditional.

previously we saw Jodha saying Jalal is a very good Shehenshah...she alwyas said this and defended him when his awam talked ill of him..and she was the first one to tell him he has a heart and there is a good human being lying inside him..but that lashing out night shattered all her theories she built about Jalal and she went back to square one..this particular tax abolishing decision of Jalal moved her so much that she forgot every bitter past of hers and only remembers his heart, her old theories and this act proved her that whatever she thought of him (having a heart and a wonderful human being) is all true..he is a man with a heart of gold..this act proved it oncee again...she knows this abolishion will cause Mughal Saltanat a huge loss, but Shehenshah did not care, isse zyada nothing could have moved Jodha..iss act ke samne sab kuch pheka padhjata hai..Jodha herself feeling very small in front of Jalal's mahaan act..hence she immediately admitted her mistake and stubbornness..vapas naa jane ka toh sawal hi nahi uthta! she forgave him long back...just needed a space to heal her heart and a push to start afresh with him...this was the space and the push..note, she asked for time..she never said she won't go back.

History_geek

This is NOT a normal arranged marriage. It's polygamy. It's a forced marriage. It's a marriage where she is ONE wife amongst thousands. Jodha wants the MAN not the Shahenshah. Regarding change, it's a marriage involving two DIFFERENT clans, which happened for the first TIME. It takes time to understand. I don't find it wrong to see that she wanted a man with a HEART. Is it too much to ask for ? Was this her condition? No. It was necessity and more so for Jalal. How can one LOVE without a heart? Some feel it is Jalal's Love. ? There is never even a possibility of ONE SIDE 'EPIC' LOVE, even from Jalal. If it is EPIC, it comes from BOTH sides, otherwise not. Btw, When did Jalal himself understood that he has a heart, I FEEL via Jodha ? As for Jalal changing, Jodha NEVER asked him to change. He understood it himself.

It seems there is a "shikayat" against Jodha. There is a view that Jodha is not suitable and can not replicate the MAGNITUDE of Love which Jalal is capable of showcasing. But, There is NO writing on the wall that both partners take steps EQUALLY / alternately by counting and after impeccable mathematical calculations, one after another.

Quoted this few weeks backs - Love comes to a person at own accord, and the yearning for
it cannot be learned in any school. Your task is not to seek love, but
merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built
against it.!. Jodha has found this. Both partners take time, and proceed at a different pace..!!.. More so, in this case of polygamy and where she was forced in this political settlement, and unsure of JALAL'S FEELINGS..!!!.."

What conditions has Jodha PUT to Jalal, for her Love.?. None.
Jalal has HIMSELF understood this. So, How come it became conditional in case of Jodha.?.


" And, if anyone here is ready to LOVE a person, with whom your frequency does NOT match (no matter the other person loves you ) then it's other case, as we all think differently.
But, i am yet to find such a mortal being.!!!!!! "

Deejagi

When love happens to someone it doesn't expect the reciprocation and if it get it then that would be great. So there can never be any conditional love that I love you with whole of my heart and so you need to love me in the same way. Love can't be measured but only felt. A person may be good at expressing and he may express his love beautifully with marvelous words and the girl may be shy and not so outspoken and hence might just might not even reciprocate his love with words. At that moment he can't declare that she doesn't love him but will have just watch her eyes, they will speak volumes. He needs to watch her steps, which may have the ridham of her love.

At times even after realizing one loves someone, it is not so easy to accept and express it to the other as there will be hesitation due to circumstances.

For Jalal it was too easy to accept his feelings and convey that to her as just realized it that he feels something special for her which he never felt in his life. As he is the only person (man) in her life. But it was difficult for her to say the same as she was not sure of how her confession will be received by him. She had to assess the circumstances in which he told those words and whether the same will stand for ever as he has many more people in his life and he needs to spare his everything with them as well. So she had to make sure that her expression should not affect his other relations. Just because she doesn't express herself doesn't mean she loves him less. If she had loved him less, she would have left him to his fate (even when he was not realized he loves her) and would not have bothered to save his life from Ben as well as the unknown relative who stays in the palace and trying hard to take Jalal's life. She would not have prepared the medicine and sent it to him at matura. She would not have said I would have died if you were dead.

The love can never be conditional or unconditional. it is just love and its a beautiful feeling felt by heart and soul. It doesn't change with external influence. It doesn't diminish as the time passes or with the distance. One doesn't love based on he gift or status but love due to the peace and happiness the other person's memory gives you. If you get a smile juts by remembering the other person, then its crystal clear that the other person's love is immeasurable. Which happens with both Jodha & Jalal when ever they remember the other.

Rak014

Can love be called conditional when it has selflessness in it?

people expect Jo to accept Jalal the way he is! seriously? Was jalal whom we saw in the beginning,a man worth to beloved?

And Jo didnt change him for herself,or for him to love her! SHE CHANGED HIM FOR HIMSELF!

she changed him for his awaam...,who always wanted a shahenshah who gave verdict from his heart!

Did she know that he would fall in love with her only when she was waking up his heart? no!

What if he had fallen in love with another woman?what if he had given his heart to someone else? did jo think of any of these while changing him?

If Jo was so eager to change him and love him...,she would have accepted him on that very night,when he came pouring out his heart to her!

1.How selfless my jo was in drinking that whole cup of poison!

2.How selfless my jo was in saving ja-ruq's relationship, when adham had demanded for their divorce!(Any other begum in her place would have celebrated their separation!)

3.How selfless my jo was in meeting Sujamal again and again for the sake of jalal!(if she had thought of the threaten that this meeting would bring to her relationship with jalal, she would'nt have met him!)

4.how selfless my Jo was in gifting his awaam's dua on jalal's birthday, without any EXPECTATIONS from him!

5,How selfless my Jo was in forgiving BB and SD for the sake of her jalal(yes,here jo had noticed his pain, which significantly motivated her to forgive BB, her love for BB was partly a reason! )

6.And lastly, how selfless my jo was in giving up harem's responsibility,to find out the person from whom jalal had threat!

How selfless my jo is,was and will be!

And how can her love for jalal be called conditional when it has SELFLESSNESS in it?

And how selfish Rukaiyya was in accepting him, the way he is? i dont see any selfless love for jalal in her...,its acceptable to call such kind of love conditional! well, if you ask me,personally, i wouldnt call it love itself!

Gem12

for me jodha jalal both love each other unconditionally...

If jodha's love is unconditondal coz she drank poison without thinking twice...then i wud love to say even jalal's love is unconditonal..coz he too saved jodha from tiger..even he was not sure if he il survive or not... but he did it...both sacrificed thr life wen they hv not realised thr love...that time neither jalal expected jo to apolozise...adn neither jo expected jalal to apolozise...

If jodha saved rukku's and jalal's marrige then jalal too saved shivani's marriage..he inturn gave away ratanpur durg...

If jodha had forgiven BB and sharif for jalal then jalal did forgive raja bramhal in shivani's case..and shi vani tejwant too who cheated him and hakim mirza...

if she gave up harem audedar for jalal then jalal too was ready to give up his throne for jodha once...

jalal was always at the exteme...be it love or hate..he was always insecured about jodha from the beginning..coz she was the only one begum who hated him in this world...later on also he was insecure ..but he started loving her..this insecurity made him to susupect her...and yes his close ones took advantage of it...

Jalal's mistake was he never supported jo or stood beside her wen she was in need of him... again he didnt do it to take revenge..but he did all these things coz of continous rejections from her end...she rejected him many times...he was hurt and hence he vent out his pain and anger in his own way...but jodha be in in hatredness or love she always supported jalal and stood beside him...that's the difference bet them...wen it comes to love both love each other unconditionally..par har koi apna pyar jatane ki tareka alag hoti hai...now jalal realised whr he went wrong and relaised and rectified his mistake...coming to passion ..jalal was always passionate right from day 1 ..wen he saw her...he started dreaming about her...but our jodha she realised her love just b4 the final blow out day...but both are deeply and madly in love with each other...for me its purely unconditional love from both ways...

I like akdha ..and love both of them equally...main kisi ek ko mahan nahi banasakti...for me both are equal..dono main kamiya hai...both are imperfect..they both are accepting each other as how they are..ise epic love story kehte hain..