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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: smile.sara

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i know here u can lash out real akbar, real rukayya begum even people can laugh and mock to members who are getting peace full vibes from real rukkaya sultan begum final resting place but cant dare to say any thing to mhari begum 😆... do and face slap of warning level , threatening notes on threads and locks on very mature discussion threads 😆

y r laughing so much di ? r u okay m scared 😭😕. I didnt understood real rukaiiya final resting place..wat r u saying...kuch samaj nai aara ..whos mocking n y 😲😲
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: smile.sara

btw one Koshtin ...

pls...
did she? ...did she do paeri pena ..i mean did she touch the royal feets of her pati parmeshwer by any chance 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

y r laughing so much di ? r u okay m scared 😭😕. I didnt understood real rukaiiya final resting place..wat r u saying...kuch samaj nai aara ..whos mocking n y 😲😲

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i m as much ok as any one can be at 2 30 am when every one in house sleeping😆
and there was very informative post some days back about full pictorial information of bagh e babar... gardens of baber is in Kabul ...it is very beautiful place ... and emperor babr buried there ...
in vast area of bagh e baber... there is small boundry in which small tomb of baner and some other grave of Mughals... in this four walls ..there is also two graves next to each other ...
one is the youngest son of babar ..hindal mirza and second is his only child ruqayya sultan begum ...
there was very beautiful blooming floral trees on these graves which were giving very peacefulness about people who are resting there ...
but i thought i saw your comments there ... hae na ???
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Posted: 11 years ago
Sara my pet, you are being downright unfair to me!😉

Why, I wrote one of my best posts here about that episode, and I had clearly underlined the serious risk Jalal ran of being accused of butparasti because of that sublime gesture. Which came true when he arrived in Agra.

It was Jodha Akbar 87: The Gordian Knot
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/94145591
I had there said:

The courage of his convictions: There is a perceptible hesitation, for no one should underestimate what this gesture costs him. What he is about to do would be taken as butparasti (idol worship), specifically forbidden in Islam. If anyone had spread the word across the Mughal sultanate that their Shahenshah had paid obeisance to a Hindu but, there would have been an uproar, and not only among the maulvis. Even decades later , when he had long been the all powerful Emperor Akbar, his initiative to found a syncretist religion merging Islam and Hinduism, the Din-e-Ilahi, had attracted widespread criticism. Now he is, as yet, nowhere near that level of unquestioned domination, so the risks are that much more.

xxx

I do not know if Jodha understands the true import of this, of what he has done and why, or of what it has meant for him to do it. Imagination was never her strong point.

But what she says next, in the precap, with a resurgence of angry tears, about the despoiling of the temple and the looting of the Dev Maa's sacred aabhooshan (jewellery), seems to indicate that she does not understand. For it is in the same hostile, bitter tone in which she was earlier mentioning her sankalp. The sense of dismay with which he asks as to who had committed that shameful act conveys nothing to her, for she never has ears for the nuances in what he says, not to speak of what he means but does not say.

What more was left for me to say?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

hey i did objected to it n yes i was not so courageous to do that ..u know this forum 😆 but aunty knows i did objected it 😳.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: smile.sara

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i m as much ok as any one can be at 2 30 am when every one in house sleeping😆
and there was very informative post some days back about full pictorial information of bagh e babar... gardens of baber is in Kabul ...it is very beautiful place ... and emperor babr buried there ...
in vast area of bagh e baber... there is small boundry in which small tomb of baner and some other grave of Mughals... in this four walls ..there is also two graves next to each other ...
one is the youngest son of babar ..hindal mirza and second is his only child ruqayya sultan begum ...
there was very beautiful blooming floral trees on these graves which were giving very peacefulness about people who are resting there ...
but i thought i saw your comments there ... hae na ???

yes i did commented there,,but whos is mocking..i think i wrote rukaiiya is a pure soul bcz some sort of branch sprouted thre na 😳😳..there is a acknowledgement regarding this tm wrote n i also saidthe show maker had ruined her character 🤢
Di pls sleep u need it 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
How lovely, Sara! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I wonder none of why Akbar's chief begums was buried with him at Sikandra. Why in Kabul for Ruqaiya Sultan Begum?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: smile.sara

i m as much ok as any one can be at 2 30 am when every one in house sleeping😆
and there was very informative post some days back about full pictorial information of bagh e babar... gardens of baber is in Kabul ...it is very beautiful place ... and emperor babr buried there ...
in vast area of bagh e baber... there is small boundry in which small tomb of baner and some other grave of Mughals... in this four walls ..there is also two graves next to each other ...
one is the youngest son of babar ..hindal mirza and second is his only child ruqayya sultan begum ...
there was very beautiful blooming floral trees on these graves which were giving very peacefulness about people who are resting there ...
but i thought i saw your comments there ... hae na ???



Originally posted by: sunshine_sun

y r laughing so much di ? r u okay m scared 😭😕. I didnt understood real rukaiiya final resting place..wat r u saying...kuch samaj nai aara ..whos mocking n y 😲😲

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

How lovely, Sara! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I wonder none of why Akbar's chief begums was buried with him at Sikandra. Why in Kabul for Ruqaiya Sultan Begum?

Shyamala Aunty



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Aunty, it was Ruqaiya Sultan Begum's wish to be buried near her father and grand-father. 😊
A member here shared beautiful pictures of Bagh-E-Babur, here is the link.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4017937


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Sara my pet, you are being downright unfair to me!😉

Why, I wrote one of my best posts here about that episode, and I had clearly underlined the serious risk Jalal ran of being accused of butparasti because of that sublime gesture. Which came true when he arrived in Agra.

It was Jodha Akbar 87: The Gordian Knot

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/94145591
I had there said:

The courage of his convictions: There is a perceptible hesitation, for no one should underestimate what this gesture costs him. What he is about to do would be taken as butparasti (idol worship), specifically forbidden in Islam. If anyone had spread the word across the Mughal sultanate that their Shahenshah had paid obeisance to a Hindu but, there would have been an uproar, and not only among the maulvis. Even decades later , when he had long been the all powerful Emperor Akbar, his initiative to found a syncretist religion merging Islam and Hinduism, the Din-e-Ilahi, had attracted widespread criticism. Now he is, as yet, nowhere near that level of unquestioned domination, so the risks are that much more.

xxx

I do not know if Jodha understands the true import of this, of what he has done and why, or of what it has meant for him to do it. Imagination was never her strong point.

But what she says next, in the precap, with a resurgence of angry tears, about the despoiling of the temple and the looting of the Dev Maa's sacred aabhooshan (jewellery), seems to indicate that she does not understand. For it is in the same hostile, bitter tone in which she was earlier mentioning her sankalp. The sense of dismay with which he asks as to who had committed that shameful act conveys nothing to her, for she never has ears for the nuances in what he says, not to speak of what he means but does not say.

What more was left for me to say?

Shyamala Aunty

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arey aunty may be bec of my poor English i didn make my point clear ..i was saying you were very brave and clear at tht time tht he did very risky thing according his faith ...and you said at tht time tht nor jodha nor members got how much risk he took .. i know you were very clear at tht time and raise this point very clarly and firmly... i have save this post in my lappy😃
i was saying i didn't dare to say any thing at time ..
yaar aunty how can I say this about you ...you are inspiration for me ...u always say what you feel never hesitate and come under extra pressure😊
aunty very soorry agar aap ko laga I m saying k u didn't say enuf at tht time ...actually I was saying u r the only one who dared to say against almost every one thinking ...
I hope I cleared my self😊 my dear aunty🤗
Edited by smile.sara - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Thank you, Shweta my dear, that is good to know.

I miss you in my new abode. Do see my latest Jodha Akbar 239: Tentative beginnings, which is an amplified version of the relevant part of the one here above on 238/239.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Shweta16


Aunty, it was Ruqaiya Sultan Begum's wish to be buried near her father and grand-father. 😊
A member here shared beautiful pictures of Bagh-E-Babur, here is the link.

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4017937


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: smile.sara

btw one Koshtin ...

pls...
did she? ...did she do paeri pena ..i mean did she touch the royal feets of her pati parmeshwer by any chance 😆


Hahahaaa Wrong Question 😆

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