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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: minnie2308

Mansi, Amazing writeup.

But you forgot to mention her bland expression on hearing that he was attacked by Abul Mali... It seemed weird that she could still only think of her room and space after witnessing her wounded husband and also hearing about the attacker.
I kinda expected her to burst out in anger" Look what happened. I was warning Shenhenshah to be wary of Abul Mali and his chals...someone from his close circle told him about Shehenshah's whereabouts ...this is why he was attacked. He never listens to me..." some more anger laced words...more to herself...less to Bharmal... and then say... "You should have kept him anywhere but my room". That would have made more sense and even then Bharmal's lecture was OK.
Here it seems as if she was unruffled by attacks on him.
No matter what she does later, the instant and instinctive lack of caring has left a bad taste in my mouth...👎🏼

No Minnie I expected her bland expression because as I wrote I thought she was not fully in grasp of her mind and faculties. She seemed in some alternative reality of imaginings and autoameted responses. She did not look like a thinking and cogent individual. maybe its the after effect of her negative feelings gone leaving a void in her that now needs to be filled with positive feelings. Sometimes when we have had a lot of negative feelings and it gets removed suddenly, we ourselves feel spaced out for a while.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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On polling duty will spring back when I get a breather..

Fabulous post...👏

Thanks Peepu!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Buddy I know most of ppl r disappointed with Jo but I'm not...Jo is angry bird now Jallu is love bird lets see how these two birds understand care and finally fly with love. Jallu wil get well soon by the powerful Lep of Jo and win her love back...I want to see Jallu manofying her teasing her and winning his love Jo ..
Regarding Jo Parents doesn't know wat exactly happend btw JJ...they r thinking it's normal fight bcz of MU and try to pacify and they r unaware of words that happend btw JJ ...they evn dint realise how much Jo got hurt only Jallu knows how much he has hurt her and only amer can help her to get out of this situation...wen bharmal said wat happend to previous jodha I Thoght of sayin anyone in that mental Agra wil become lik this...they al made her to get kicked out of Agra that Jo made herself stubborn...
She wil try to b hard,stubborn and pretending not to care but she also knows that deep inside she is melting and remembering seeing him eveywer ..stil those words were ringing in her years and the person whom she Thoght loved accused her of infidelity and thrown her out of his life...just lik Jallu in Ben track how he was blinded by dhakka issue Thoght of forgetting his mohabbat bcz of hurt and insulted in DEK also that she dint fulfil her responsibilities as wife now same Jo is suffering with that bcz how Jallu has thrown her out of his life and trying to forget her love and not to be kind to him even wen he got injured ..it's her deep hurt not ego or pride ...this is culmination of her hurt, humiliation and pain from Ben track til the day wen he askd her to leave..
Jallu cudnt forget dhakka n hurt for two months and Jo is also human how can she forget his words in five days she needs time and amer is the bestest place for Jo to get out of the situation...if she gets melt easily we wil see nxt day JJ packing their bags to that mental Agra which I dnt want now at all.. Let these love birds understand and Jallu assure Jo that he wil always trust her n respect her and later Jo confessing her love to Jallu...im enjoying these ruk Maham sharif adham free episodes
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i am thinking about the precap now😳😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi Mansi,
11 coconuts! that's a lucky number - hope we get 11 episodes of JJ in Amer, starting from yesterday!😆 And 11 OTT reviews from you too!

I was not at all upset with Jodha yesterday. You have explained everything beautifully. She was still struggling with her heart and mind. Her heart was yearning for him while her mind was still holding on to the hurt and telling her not to believe him and to stay away from him. Poor girl had not yet resolved this conflict when Jalal confused her with sights and sounds. My poor little Jo must have thought she had become schizophrenic. 😆 The suddenness of his arrival and her own mental condition prevented her from recognizing the gravity of his condition.

I told you yesterday that Jo might get a premonition and ask Bharmal to send his army to Jalal. Looks like Bharmal himself got the premonition and sent his army. Though his army is also useless like the Agra army. What were they doing till Jalal fainted? 😆 At least they took him to Amer in one piece. I am glad Jalal kept my hopes in his ability alive and rescued himself valiantly. He is such a great warrior who is at his most alert and ingenious best even when he is mentally exhausted and devastated. The old man came in handy to get Jalal to keep the sikka where it could work as a kavach to keep him safe. 😉

You are right about the empty ego shell and the thinking rut Jo had fallen into. When we were discussing this in the last few days, I had mentioned that it would be no good if Jo is in Amer and Jalal goes back to Agra because then they would get stuck in their ego, waiting for the other to take the initiative. The shock of seeing a wounded Jalal is therefore imperative at this stage to push Jodha to come out of her mental blockade and acknowledge her feelings. Seeing him in person at close quarters and being forced to care for him will push her to let go of her mental fears and heed her heart's desires.

It would have looked illogical to me if she had hugged him the moment she saw him because she has not seen his remorse/pain/hurt/agony and his crusade to find her and win her over. She only remembers the Night. She doesn't know how much he regrets that night and to what lengths he has gone and is willing to go for her. What she does know is that he loves her and she has already forgiven him in her heart. But how can she acknowledge openly to him and her parents that she still loves him, after claiming that she will never go back to him?

Bharmal did 2 wise things yesterday:

1. He got Jalal to Amer safely.
2. He told Jodha frankly to get hold of her own emotions and to be more sensitive to her injured husband and emperor.

Mainavati helped her husband by using her own emotional twisters to unscrew Jodha. The mother understood her daughter perfectly and knew that Jodha was looking for a face saving excuse to go to Jalal and tend to him. And she provided the perfect excuse - that he was their guest and injured. So now Jodha can attend to Jalal all she wants in the name of atithi seva and kartavya to an injured person. 😆

She is still going to do some nakhras in front of Jalal and show him some attitude. Like Mainavati guessed, she wants to make the most of the situation like a typical wife and get Jalal to woo her with all his charm and tricks. This is quite good from Jalal's POV also because he will rid himself of his guilt by wooing Jodha with some difficulty. If she had melted easily, the guilt would have stayed with him - "how could I hurt such a sweet forgiving girl"? And secondly, he will learn to value her and think twice in future before daring to distrust or abuse her. Last but not the least, till Jalal is able to woo her, they will remain in Amer, far away from the madding crowd of Agra. 😉 And it will be a big relief for us also not to have to see MA/Ruq and assorted jeev-jantu of the Agra zoo. 😆

I have been quite critical of Mainavati and Bharmal in the past. But now they are rising in my eyes. Wow, they are behaving like sensible and responsible parents and helping their children (both JJ) come to terms with reality. Wish HB was invited here to learn some tips and tricks from them!

The only thing I didn't understand was why Bharmal let Jalal "totter" (ur words 😆 ) to the waterfront? Wasn't any conveyance available? But he made up for this lapse by being the avuncular FIL and ordering Jalal to get back in bed. Jalal was so touched by this "order" that he promptly obeyed. Bharmal's intervention in the "Shahenshah, aap yahan kya kar rahen hain" scene must also have come as a big relief to Jalal. No wonder, Jalal fell in love with the Ameris hereafter. 😆

Precap: Obviously nothing as dramatic as we expect - but interesting nevertheless. Anticipating the scene with bated breath. 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,

As you said we all loved the fact that Jallu is in Amer finally but things seemed very illogical .But as long as he is away from Agra we don't mind it.. The reflection of Jalal in Bawdi at Ghanghour is very symbolic to reinforce a beginning of a new and strong relationship between them.. Yes we so vry want the ruthna and manana.. but Jo seemed too insensitive today and BM really gave her a good piece of mind.. One one side she prays her Kanha to keep her pati safe and she is not moved when she sees hiin so injured...!! Her first reaction on seeing him so badly injured should have been .. her worry for him.. remember when he was injured from stone throwing incident.though she was angry ... she was so worried for him.. she almost ran towards him and now.. whats the matter,??? Yeh CVs bhi naa. Anyways but good reverse psychology strategy by MV ..She knows her daughter too well..

WHta about the precap.. We all know that she is not going to kiss him... just going to kill a fly or a mosquito.. poor Jalal..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Today was one of the days when I appreciated ur post more than any other day. I liked all parts in green.
So far, the only thing I wanted Jodha to admit was her part of mistake in sujamal track. I was fine with her leaving Agra but I still want her to admit that she was at fault too. i sitll have hope that she will when her anger is gone.

Jalal, despite his condItion, went to lake to see Jodha and talk to her. This man is madly in love. I also liked his today's and yesterday's dialogue to AM. Jalal was awesome. Loved his fight too yesterday and today.

Jodha's behavior did not bother me much until when she did not even flinch when Bharmal told her about attack on Jalal. I at least expected Kya (What) or a shocked expression if nothing more. Only place I liked Jodha was when she was covering her ears and asked kanha why is she seeing shahenshah everywhere? and jalal had a faint smile while standing her. When he touched her, i do not think she flinched because of disgust but because she got startled wondering who was it (u know when u're in thoughts and if someone suddenly touches u, u get scared or startled).

I actually liked Bharmal and Mainavati today for once.

Despite everything, I still liked the episode and I am VERY happy and relieved that Jalal is at Amer. I hope Akdha stays there for at least until next friday and solves their problems, admit their mistakes, rectify and decide not to repeate same mistakes and profess their love and consummate their marriage before going to Agra.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Buddy I know most of ppl r disappointed with Jo but I'm not...Jo is angry bird now Jallu is love bird lets see how these two birds understand care and finally fly with love. Jallu wil get well soon by the powerful Lep of Jo and win her love back...I want to see Jallu manofying her teasing her and winning his love Jo ..
Regarding Jo Parents doesn't know wat exactly happend btw JJ...they r thinking it's normal fight bcz of MU and try to pacify and they r unaware of words that happend btw JJ ...they evn dint realise how much Jo got hurt only Jallu knows how much he has hurt her and only amer can help her to get out of this situation...wen bharmal said wat happend to previous jodha I Thoght of sayin anyone in that mental Agra wil become lik this...they al made her to get kicked out of Agra that Jo made herself stubborn...
She wil try to b hard,stubborn and pretending not to care but she also knows that deep inside she is melting and remembering seeing him eveywer ..stil those words were ringing in her years and the person whom she Thoght loved accused her of infidelity and thrown her out of his life...just lik Jallu in Ben track how he was blinded by dhakka issue Thoght of forgetting his mohabbat bcz of hurt and insulted in DEK also that she dint fulfil her responsibilities as wife now same Jo is suffering with that bcz how Jallu has thrown her out of his life and trying to forget her love and not to be kind to him even wen he got injured ..it's her deep hurt not ego or pride ...this is culmination of her hurt, humiliation and pain from Ben track til the day wen he askd her to leave..
Jallu cudnt forget dhakka n hurt for two months and Jo is also human how can she forget his words in five days she needs time and amer is the bestest place for Jo to get out of the situation...if she gets melt easily we wil see nxt day JJ packing their bags to that mental Agra which I dnt want now at all.. Let these love birds understand and Jallu assure Jo that he wil always trust her n respect her and later Jo confessing her love to Jallu...im enjoying these ruk Maham sharif adham free episodes

You are very right. This anger Jodha has seems a hangover from ben days or even earlier. But by now I feel she is already over the anger and only an emptiness is continuing the same words and the feelings are locked in a rut. If he gibes positive strokes, she will easily find her feelings turning positive. The time is right!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: akdha

i am thinking about the precap now😳😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

hi Mansi,

11 coconuts! that's a lucky number - hope we get 11 episodes of JJ in Amer, starting from yesterday!😆 And 11 OTT reviews from you too!

I was not at all upset with Jodha yesterday. You have explained everything beautifully. She was still struggling with her heart and mind. Her heart was yearning for him while her mind was still holding on to the hurt and telling her not to believe him and to stay away from him. Poor girl had not yet resolved this conflict when Jalal confused her with sights and sounds. My poor little Jo must have thought she had become schizophrenic. 😆 The suddenness of his arrival and her own mental condition prevented her from recognizing the gravity of his condition.

I told you yesterday that Jo might get a premonition and ask Bharmal to send his army to Jalal. Looks like Bharmal himself got the premonition and sent his army. Though his army is also useless like the Agra army. What were they doing till Jalal fainted? 😆 At least they took him to Amer in one piece. I am glad Jalal kept my hopes in his ability alive and rescued himself valiantly. He is such a great warrior who is at his most alert and ingenious best even when he is mentally exhausted and devastated. The old man came in handy to get Jalal to keep the sikka where it could work as a kavach to keep him safe. 😉

You are right about the empty ego shell and the thinking rut Jo had fallen into. When we were discussing this in the last few days, I had mentioned that it would be no good if Jo is in Amer and Jalal goes back to Agra because then they would get stuck in their ego, waiting for the other to take the initiative. The shock of seeing a wounded Jalal is therefore imperative at this stage to push Jodha to come out of her mental blockade and acknowledge her feelings. Seeing him in person at close quarters and being forced to care for him will push her to let go of her mental fears and heed her heart's desires.

It would have looked illogical to me if she had hugged him the moment she saw him because she has not seen his remorse/pain/hurt/agony and his crusade to find her and win her over. She only remembers the Night. She doesn't know how much he regrets that night and to what lengths he has gone and is willing to go for her. What she does know is that he loves her and she has already forgiven him in her heart. But how can she acknowledge openly to him and her parents that she still loves him, after claiming that she will never go back to him?

Bharmal did 2 wise things yesterday:

1. He got Jalal to Amer safely.
2. He told Jodha frankly to get hold of her own emotions and to be more sensitive to her injured husband and emperor.

Mainavati helped her husband by using her own emotional twisters to unscrew Jodha. The mother understood her daughter perfectly and knew that Jodha was looking for a face saving excuse to go to Jalal and tend to him. And she provided the perfect excuse - that he was their guest and injured. So now Jodha can attend to Jalal all she wants in the name of atithi seva and kartavya to an injured person. 😆

She is still going to do some nakhras in front of Jalal and show him some attitude. Like Mainavati guessed, she wants to make the most of the situation like a typical wife and get Jalal to woo her with all his charm and tricks. This is quite good from Jalal's POV also because he will rid himself of his guilt by wooing Jodha with some difficulty. If she had melted easily, the guilt would have stayed with him - "how could I hurt such a sweet forgiving girl"? And secondly, he will learn to value her and think twice in future before daring to distrust or abuse her. Last but not the least, till Jalal is able to woo her, they will remain in Amer, far away from the madding crowd of Agra. 😉 And it will be a big relief for us also not to have to see MA/Ruq and assorted jeev-jantu of the Agra zoo. 😆

I have been quite critical of Mainavati and Bharmal in the past. But now they are rising in my eyes. Wow, they are behaving like sensible and responsible parents and helping their children (both JJ) come to terms with reality. Wish HB was invited here to learn some tips and tricks from them!

The only thing I didn't understand was why Bharmal let Jalal "totter" (ur words 😆 ) to the waterfront? Wasn't any conveyance available? But he made up for this lapse by being the avuncular FIL and ordering Jalal to get back in bed. Jalal was so touched by this "order" that he promptly obeyed. Bharmal's intervention in the "Shahenshah, aap yahan kya kar rahen hain" scene must also have come as a big relief to Jalal. No wonder, Jalal fell in love with the Ameris hereafter. 😆

Precap: Obviously nothing as dramatic as we expect - but interesting nevertheless. Anticipating the scene with bated breath. 😳

Radhika, I expected nothing less than this absolutely delightful post from you and my hopes were answered. Thank God we have agroup of far-thinking people on this thread whose positivity we can feed off!
There was a bit of over the top stuff as you have mentioned (like the necklace bit and Jalal "tottering" to the waterfront and all that) but if you sink all that for a moment Jodha's feelings are realistic ... the poor dear is spaced out and in some alternative reality where there is only the empty shell of ego and some automaton-type responses. What she now needs is cajoling from the man in the bandages! She will be pulp before very long, I assure you. He is too determined for words!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago

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