Originally posted by: dodoneha
@ underlinedwhich arrow is it talking about?? d arrow attempt which sujamal deviated during jashn or some war where he takes d arrow 2 save jalal😕 (as dere was some news dat some war scenes r shot)its so confusing🤓
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Originally posted by: dodoneha
@ underlinedwhich arrow is it talking about?? d arrow attempt which sujamal deviated during jashn or some war where he takes d arrow 2 save jalal😕 (as dere was some news dat some war scenes r shot)its so confusing🤓
Originally posted by: history_geek
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Hi Mansi,
This is one of the best posts i am reading. Very positive post. This i say because you have focussed on trauma of both the leads today after examining BOTH jodha and Jalal in last two days.
Since yesterday the ONLY argument which has caught all attention is Jalal's hurt and trauma. Really i felt TOO BAD AND SAD for him. This guy is very much hurt. But what i don't get is holding 'ONE' person responsible for all this.
I expect Jodha to confess the secret. But that 'vachan' has spoilt the party. And she is unable. Even she feels why Suja took that vachan. Had it not been the case she would have done it.
Next, EVEN Jalal does not asks her DIRECTLY that whom you met.?.
He is indirectly showing his hurt that i wish you had trusted me Jodha Begum. There also the clause used was that you are lying to me regarding harem. He could have asked directly.?. The thing is if Jodha is bound by vachan Jalal too is not able to speak up due to fears of previous occassions where he doubted her...
The problem is that NEITHER JALAL NOR JODHA, no one is speaking up. So i see this BOTH ways.
I am sure the lead will be taken up by Jalal. He will ask whom you met as per promo and if she does not speaks there also then may be that jungle track will happen.
Another interesting point i want to mention is that why is that ''Vachan'' called stupid in some corners of the forum..?..
When she gave the vachan did she know that the future will be so bleak.?. And that vachan was a sudden event. She did not had the time of think what implications it could lead to.?. Afterall human do mistakeS and this was done in ignorance.
Let me bring another facet of this so called 'stupid' vachan.
TWICE Jalal was also in a similar situation and he gave PROMINENCE to his vachan.
1. During religion coversion issue, he was ready to LEAVE THE THRONE OF MUGHAL SULTANATE due to his zubaan given at the time of marriage...
So, why did That Zubaan was so important there.?.
The Emperor regarded his Zubaan more than the throne. And we all applauded it. If et all that happened do you think it was a wise decision OF LEAVING THE THRONE..
Anyways for me Jalal's izzat rose as he kept his words there..
That time it was Chisti baba who saved the situation.
2. You remember that Body Heat incident. That time Jodha's life was in danger due to the cold she caught. ?. And body heat was the ONLY solution prescribed by Khwaja Shera.
But here ALSO jalal gave importance to his Zubaan that he will not touch Jodha Begum without her consent DESPITE KNOWING SHE MAY NOT SURVIVE IF HE DID NOT GIVE BODY HEAT.
he still went for 'kaala kapda'...Rofl..
So he gave preferance to Zubaan over her life. Her also i appreciate the high ideals of this man.
HERE DESTINY WAS TO HIS RESCUE.
What i want to say is howcome the Zubaan is so important and is hailed by ALL. and why a vachan becomes so stupid.?.
And add to this, Jodha is still unaware to the turmoil she is going to face..SHE IS BLUNDERING.
But she does not have a hint of Jalal's state of mind. She feels something is amiss due to harem issue.
We all know Jodha will face MUSIC at the hands of Jalal as per promo and that outlash is justified also.
JALAL NEEDS TO VENT OUT.
But why do we forget that NONE of them has spoken up. Jodha cannot open up due to vachan. And Jalal has pre-conceived notions about blaming Jodha.
Whom do i blame.?.
Whom do i support.?.
I feel bad for Both.
Both are victims of circumstances.
I see both of them DEVASTATED DEEP INSIDE..!..
I would love to know your take on this. Do correct me if something is invalid here.
PS. - i wrote all this from my cell. Will add more later about the rest of episode..
Mansi- great points!!!
I want to say two things:1.Why did not Sujamal told Jodha about the letter he sent to Atgah to warn him about the attack before Jashan? If he had said that and Jodha had conveyed that to Jalal then at least Sujamal would have been exonerated. Then, Jalal might have forgiven him or at least did not think he was the attacker.2. I do not have faith in spoilers anymore after Mohan tiger attack that we were supposed to see some scene in jungle or atleast nursing wound scenes in Agra palace but did not get either of them. However,SUPPOSE I assume that the jungle track spolier that u said was stated in telly chakkar was true, then I HOPE Jalal vents his anger of hiding stuff and about safety etc and does not say something that implies doubting her character. Because then what was the point of Jalal saying that he does not doubt her character or of cheating but just worried that she is in dabaav, majboori, khauf and worried about her safety in this last few episodes. CVS BETTER NOT RUIN what they shown in last few episodes about Jalal trusting her immensely. I just don't want Jalal to say something in anger regarding her charatcer after showing so much trust; that would not make sense at all. CVS, please show the Jalal's venting at Jodha properly with correct and meaningful dialogues. I hope they mean it when they say it is 1 and half week track and not lie like they did in Benazir track.CVS, please wrap this track by end of next week and spare my Akdha and their fans anymore pain and hurt. There better be some nice, happy, romantic culmination of this track. At least move their love story forward especially from Jodha's side.
Thank you Mansi - CREDIT GOES TO OUR TALK YESTERDAY AND ALSO TO DIKSHA.
she wrote a post on Ela's thread about the TC spoiler and that got me thinking about the episode. So what I wrote big thanks to Diksha. I will try to copy her post here, I am sure she won't mind.
It would be great if Balaji can hire me, but I will not like any scenes where insults of heroine are shown, so how will that work?😆
THIS WAY THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER INSULTS FOR JODHA, Cos even if she tells Jalal if he sees Sujamal in haram he will blow up again.
Secondly if Sujamal is IN HARAM before Jalal's blow out the CONSEQUENCES FOR JODHA WILL BE EVEN DIRE!
What if MA or Ruk find Sujamal?
IF THERE IS GOING TO BE NO BIG MU - then this way ONLY JODHA, JALAL AND SUJAMAL WILL KNOW. Jalal might take Adga Khan in confidence.
If I WERE TO WRITE THIS SCREEN PLAY -
I will get Jalal to keep similar written paigam in the zopadi and where names of Jodha and Sujamal are wirten - so it is clear if the paigam is written by Sujamal.
Jalal to TEST MA - should TELL MA - he is so upset with Jodha and HE CAN ONLY TRUST HIS BA - and can she go to zopadi and check?
MA will go there find the paigam but she will TEAR OFF the portion of Sujamal's name thinking then Jalal might not get upset with Jodha. Let her come to him with torn paigam with Sujamal name missing!
Maybe Jalal sent somebody after MA to check and report what she does.
Then JALAL WILL SEE MA DISTORTED THE PAIGAM TO CAST DOUBT OF JODHA.
Jalal should thank her tell her NOW SHE SHOULD RELAX HE WILL GET TO BOTTOM OF THIS AND THEN IN FUTURE NOT LISTEN TO ONE WORD SHE SAY.
IF ONLY I WAS WRITING THIS - MA😡
Yes abhay...wen every one who called up zee cheated them..since i blasted that guy badly he told me the truth..mu happens..jo il be asked to go back to amer..jalal il suspect her... see i dont mind to see this seperation track..inturn they both il miss each other n feel others pain... but for me once jalal finds jodha and seeks forgiveness will she be able to forgive him...coz till now he suspected her on other issues..but this time he il suspect her infertility ... but i dont want jodha to forgive him this time easlity if she does then he il never realise her worth n importance in his life... he il never no the value of apology...
Before you read, This is strictly for die-hard and loyal fans of Pale Blue Dot ...our fellow PBDians ... I've been working on this since...
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