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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Gem12



dear if at all he suspects her of loving someone else it il last for an epi or two..it happens dear...coz anyone at his place will do the same..coz still he is not sure that jo too loves him...n any husband at his place m8 be insecure...aur wo bhi itni khubsurart biwi...aur wo bi his love...yeah...but shayad ek ya do episodes ye suspect n arguments hoga... but u no jalal cant stay away from jo...once he gets to no about sujamal then he il be happy


I know it won't last long but I hope the CVs make sure they show him think why a person who is willing to give up her life for him will have another lover.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Jodha told Jalal once, you always need proof till then you do not believe me!
This one is making us all go crazy thinking😆


I think this track will be to-fold:
- Proving Jalal's trust in Jodha
- Solidifying Jodha's trust in Jalal

These two are both critical for the love confession.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Diksha this is super take, it would be fabulous to see. So if MA does some gift wrapping of the tale he will know that also

Jalal has been twice to meet her without announcement but when the bandis came to thank Jo before leaving they had Jalal come in announced

But then why is Suj dressed as a woman?
I felt that if Jalal learns of Jo meet Suj and keeps her in isolation then Suj might come dressed as a woman to meet her in haram

BTW if Jo met Suj once at night behind temple why is she meeting him again? Cos MA tells him and then we have Jalal follow Jo in plain clothes!

So why the 3rd meeting of Suj Jo and his woman's clothes scene yet to come!




one possibility , as i feel... second time she meets him, Suja tells her that he is innocent and is being framed... Jo saying she is aware, but feeling helpless, and even terrified that if not suja, it means somebody is playing game and there may be another attack on Jalal... and seeing her so helpless, he hugs her and consoles, and MA sees them... then she instigates Jalal... here Sujamal decides not to leave agra for Jo's sake, till he brings real culprit to Jalal, and again sends msg to Jo, and then Jalal follows her... first i felt MA will send msg like in film to both suja and Jo, but MA doesn't know Suja, so how can she send him the msg... so that means suja only will send Jo msg to meet again, and MA will come to know it, and inform Jallu... but then Jalal too may be keeping eye on Jo, and will follow her...

then after meeting Jo, Suja will tell her that the attacker, is somebody from palace itself and very near to Jalal, and that his plan to catch the attacker , means he has to be in palace in disguise... Jo will agree to this and with her help suja will enter Agra palace... and meanwhile Jalal who has followed Jo, might hear everything, and may understand that suja is helping Jo to find out Abul Mali's men in palace, so he will just keep watch on both Jo and Suja...

see this is my theory... i don't know for sure... but that one scene today btw akdha made me think this way... else i m still asking, what was need for that scene? was there any other meaning in it?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Good take, Divya...

Thanks Diksha! Thanks for posting! How was your holi party?

will just write abt 1/2 scenes... most imp was Jo-Jalal scene... have u noticed, now a days most of the time he comes unannounced to her room... does it mean something... why do i feel, he knows abt her meeting Sujamal, earlier, and may be secretly he is trusting her opinion of Sujamal?and that's why he is not so pushing up the matter of Suja arrest... ok, he talks abt it, every day, but i don't find him dead serious abt it, else he has taken his ministers and soldiers left and right, for not finding Suja, for so many days...

even when he meets Jo, he takes suja's name , is it , like I said above, that he wants her to tell him everything abt her meeting with suja... but that will mean, he knows Jo has met Suja earlier... and yes, i have this doubt now after today's episode... i felt he is testing, how much she trusts him, coz else there was no need for that scene... (just coz we want akdha scene, they will show anything?)... coz their convo didn't mean anything... ok , he wants to keep her informed abt the progress in suja's matter, but is it true? or as i said, he is testing her, so that she opens up to him completely...

I also hope both Jalal and CVs have something up their sleeve.

while looking that scene, first i felt, she had a chance to tell Jalal abt suja's letter, but she lost it... but later i had a feeling , that is it that CVs want to show, that there r still certain issues where she is not ready to trust him completely, and Jalal is aware of it, and so he is trying to find out where and how he has to win her trust that is much needed to win her? was that scene meant to show this? else what was that scene for?


Yes, I also feel CVs have created this track for Jodha to completely trust and open up to Jalal.

rest u have written so nicely... 👍🏼 from me...

Thanks again!


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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Gem12



awesome post dhiksha..par jalal itna smart nahi hain...its hard to believe...jalal wont keep quiet if he gets to no that she tried to meet suja... par acha prediction hain..agar aisa hota such main bohot maza ata...



hey, plz yaar... Jallu ka itna kachra mat karo... in reality, he was smart enough... may be CVs hv felt, they have murdered his character enough, and now they can show real Jalal ... keep good hopes alive... u will feel better...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Diksha this is super take, it would be fabulous to see. So if MA does some gift wrapping of the tale he will know that also

Jalal has been twice to meet her without announcement but when the bandis came to thank Jo before leaving they had Jalal come in announced

But then why is Suj dressed as a woman?
I felt that if Jalal learns of Jo meet Suj and keeps her in isolation then Suj might come dressed as a woman to meet her in haram

BTW if Jo met Suj once at night behind temple why is she meeting him again? Cos MA tells him and then we have Jalal follow Jo in plain clothes!

So why the 3rd meeting of Suj Jo and his woman's clothes scene yet to come!


I also find this 3rd meeting highly suspicious ... I see more twists and am excited!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm

So I was having so much fun writing the Take 5 that now the CVs look like have they decided not making it easy for me ... They want me to work a little harder (breaks a sweat) 😉
Lot of drama in the offing😆😆

Anyways, the episode itself today was not bad ... It is just the darkening clouds of the future that is keeping the forum in the dumps. But, I have said before, I am not going to assume the worst till it happens. Adi and Abhay's posts have also cheered me up that in the end the victim of this drama will be MA.😊

And from now on I have decided to criticize the CVs for character inconsistencies instead of yelling at Jodha and Jalal who were intelligent and rational people in real life. I know there are strong Jodha and Jalal fans out there and I do not want to hurt the sentiments of either when it really is the CVs who are playing a game with us!

Yes there are many ardent fans on both sides😆😆. SWs are to be blamed majorly for the inconsistencies and loopholes.

With that preamble (sorry guys, am in a talkative mood today), let me go to the take 5 today:

(1) Bond between Jalal and Atgah Khan: It is really touching to see the bonding between Jalal and Atgah Khan. The worry Jalal spurred into action to save him. Jalal running by Atgah Khan's side immediately. Jalal's relief to find out if he was safe. I particularly liked the dialogue where Atgah Khan described himself as Jalal's armor and Jalal, with a lot of warmth, recognized him as a father-like figure who he cannot afford to lose. As we know in history, that sad day will come - I can only hope they will show Jodha at his side consoling him.
That was a good scene and Jalal has high regard for Atga who is very loyal to him.
What I didn't like was half clothed Atga lying and Jalal begums standing there and seeing him😆😆

(2) Build-up towards the end of Adham Khan: I also liked how history is progressing towards the downfall of Adham Khan. The Atgah Khan attack was related to the embezzlement of funds
Yes hopefully we will get to Adham and with a new dress please😆😆.

(3) Akdha interaction: It could have been a lot more but in any case it was nice to see the two together on screen. I was surprised that Jalal was not shown perceptive enough to see she as upset as in the past. But, she was not well, there was a lot going on, so maybe the CVs are showing that he thought that was what was driving it. I also like Jalal's openness to Jodha about his progress with Sujamal. I am not sure why CVs are showing Jodha unwilling to trust Jalal on her position with Sujamal. But, the CVs need TRP drama don't they ;)
The scene showed the blunder Jodha commits. Well not always can Jalal try to read his begum who never bothers to share her feelings despite talking about the subject. Jodha's distrust and lack of faith on Jalal is making her commit the blunder. Putting her marriage at stake is not a sensible thing esp in that century. Menawati had already told her to learn to value marriage but still she isn't valuing it.

However, this does not mean a MU ... But more an argument. I think a lot of people have mentioned that the track might be for Jalal to confront Jodha on why she doesn't trust him. The CVs have not shown Jodha be very forthcoming of her feelings to Jalal ... Perhaps, after this track Jodha will be shown to be more open and transparent to Jalal. You know it is harder to understand these CVs than I thought! 😆
Exactly Jodha needs to learn to value her marriage and develop her relationship with her husband. She needs to reciprocate the affection, care, respect , trsut and faith bestowed on her. Jalal has been understanding and kind to her now. Jodha's transformation is expected.

(4) Differences between the movie and the serial which gives me further hope that this Sujamal track is not going the movie way:
- Unlike the movie, MA is not calling all the shots of the Sujamal-Jodha meeting; in the movie, MA sent the letter and told Jalal that she is meeting her prior fiance (who is not alive now); here she is waiting for Jodha's next move
- Chronology: MA creates this misunderstanding reeling from the death of her son and after Atgah Khan's death; obviously the movie was showing a very different history than what the serial is showing!

(5) Tie break between two as it was tough to find five today as I felt there was a lot of screen space with Moti singing! That did not make my top 5. 😆

- Sujamal finally got a lot of screen space today and this is long overdue given this track is about HIM. He will be around for a while as Jalal entrusted Sharif to find him and we still need to see him dressed around as a woman.
- MA is flying too high: Somehow I feel she is abusing the new power given to her as Atgah Khan is recovering; for example, with the three new people she brought to serve Jalal, etc. I feel this is her last udaan before her big fall.

And I leave you all with a question: So, I am beginning to think the promo was symbolic. Jodha has already met Sujamal once. The second time will be in the mandir and MA is coming by herself- MA won't tell Jalal this time itself till she knows what is going on. Why would Jodha visit Sujamal a third time? Could it just be that Jalal observes secretly coming back after this second visit and looks surprised and hurt on what Jodha is hiding from him? Would love your thoughts.

And, what other thoughts do you have on the episode today?

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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



one possibility , as i feel... second time she meets him, Suja tells her that he is innocent and is being framed... Jo saying she is aware, but feeling helpless, and even terrified that if not suja, it means somebody is playing game and there may be another attack on Jalal... and seeing her so helpless, he hugs her and consoles, and MA sees them... then she instigates Jalal... here Sujamal decides not to leave agra for Jo's sake, till he brings real culprit to Jalal, and again sends msg to Jo, and then Jalal follows her... first i felt MA will send msg like in film to both suja and Jo, but MA doesn't know Suja, so how can she send him the msg... so that means suja only will send Jo msg to meet again, and MA will come to know it, and inform Jallu... but then Jalal too may be keeping eye on Jo, and will follow her...

then after meeting Jo, Suja will tell her that the attacker, is somebody from palace itself and very near to Jalal, and that his plan to catch the attacker , means he has to be in palace in disguise... Jo will agree to this and with her help suja will enter Agra palace... and meanwhile Jalal who has followed Jo, might hear everything, and may understand that suja is helping Jo to find out Abul Mali's men in palace, so he will just keep watch on both Jo and Suja...

see this is my theory... i don't know for sure... but that one scene today btw akdha made me think this way... else i m still asking, what was need for that scene? was there any other meaning in it?


I think this theory makes a lot of sense and explains the third meeting.

I hope the CVs show jalal is aware of this and not silently angry,
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Posted: 11 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha



hey, plz yaar... Jallu ka itna kachra mat karo... in reality, he was smart enough... may be CVs hv felt, they have murdered his character enough, and now they can show real Jalal ... keep good hopes alive... u will feel better...


Gem, I understand where your skepticism is coming from- the CVs trackrecord with Jalal, especially in the Ben track.

Diksha, I will throw a party in the forum if CVs show Jalal's real smartness here,

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