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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: abhi786

mansi the episode is OK... Jashan started & finished in single episode with no single AKDHA SCENE to watch.. Sujamal save Jalaal & killed the assasin with Shariff recognizing & blames goes on Sujamal...

I liked Jalaal announcing Salavery & also Sujamal ..I just want Jodha to support Sujamal, as she knew Sujamal will never her husband. especially when he himself blessed her in the temple..

MY Prediction :

Would love to see JJ arguing & standing what they belief... JO believing Sujamal while Jalaal against Sujamal. Now Sujamal enters

in haram in women get up & Jodha will get confirmed her belieft on her brother is correct .. May be Sujamal will be caught or goes away from Agra...

JO informs jalaal of sujamal, he gets angry, but still JO stands supporting Sujamal, while Jalaal hell bent to show JO was wrong... he would start investigate & some how get to know it is from Abuli mali with someone in the palace is helping Abul Mali...

Would like to see Jalaal get to see the paints of JO & get the feeling that someone is eyeing on JO... Jalaal becoming posessive and now he will investigate more before jalaal gets to know Shariff, Shariff will take away JO, while Sujamal comes back to meet JO, but finds shariff jalaal & Sujamal will fight with Shariff , Sujamal will die saving JO...

Would love to see JJ aruging, fighting each other with no mu's but still both want to talk, taunt, and support before others...

That will be real funny if it happens, yaar. If Sujamal enters the scene in a woman's clothes when Jo-Ja are talking ...😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome analysis dear!!

I agree that there wont b any MU between Ja Jo anymore!! I also think somehow Jo will b able to convince Ja to investigate even before she hears from Sujamal his side of the story!!
Ja will pay heed to Jo and will definitely do his investigation and hopefully get suspicious of shareef!!

As for the jashn i felt like " oonchi dukaan feeka pakwaan", there was so much hype about the jashn and it came and went like that in few minutes!!
Also now i m loosing patience with this Ruq-Maham jodi and want the end of Maham soon, she is too much repetitive with her instigation dialogues and Ruq is becoming more and more stupid by each episode!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

epside was ok for me.

BM comes to meet, jalal, & clear reason for coming
if he not clears his thoughts, gap will become again jalal &BM realtionship. (because shivani matter some gap has been happened) as a father, as a manasbdar BM duty has to convience jalal his thoughts about
sujamal & own
jodha meets BM in a good manner, previous we already has shown jodha (in shivani matter, showed
BM disagreeness.) but in front of jalal she appeared in good manner.⭐️BM praised for jodha's bravery, &jalal accepted, jodha's bravery, he also mentioned his thankfullness.(good for jodha)⭐️
jodha gets ready for jashan. ruk also wants to go with jalal. but ruk not get oppercunity to go with jalal so this point will be hurt Ruk. Ruk hurt pointing increasing, so ready for the Ruk , Maham blast.😉
sujamal worries about jodha(good brother, brother sister realtionship bonding shows this scene⭐️ ⭐️)

sharrif shows map to AM, AM says another man work should be done defintely. how kingdom security so linet.😡 😡

jashan starts. here because in public place jashan so no scene got some romantic.
jalal announces law against slaves.⭐️ ⭐️
we know ruk &maham face will down, so they downed.😆 problem is this, not happy both ladies good work done by king, but unhappy, jodha is behind this.😡 😡

ramp walk was good in 16 cen so ramp walk has started.😆😉
i liked song, because much blessings were that song.so blessings where got should not leave,
should accept.😉 😉
Maham knows ruk inner feelings, Ruk denies, cheaters are cheating cheaters.😆 😆
i think ruk trip postpned( because atteacked on jalal
but if they go, sure sharrif plan will some work)

so sujamal finds out attacker. good work done by sujamal.⭐️
attacker now killed by sujamal.
but sujamal has to be blammed killing jalal
so now sujamal has known, sharrif intensions also not good for jalal. he already has known, AM

so he wants to aware jodha now, so female dress is needed now;
is jodha will belive sujamal?
is jalal will belive jodha now?
is sujamal will see painting now?
is BM will belive rajput not attacks backside in Sujamal case.(all depends on jalal how situations turns)

but i think this staze no MU. because
Adam khan reality also has to be come, because if now MU how sharrif plan will be work?
is sujalal will ran away?
Abhay if you here ans please.



Yes we need Abhay to tell us what happens here to Suja. Abhay, dotell us the info you have promised ... very curious to know!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74
I agree with you Mansi. Even I dont see any MU. Our JaJo now-a-days discuss every matter. They have mature conversation. From precap, I can see Jodha sharing her story of Sujamal with Jalal. She may tell him about her meeting Sujamal in Mandir. Jodha is very good with logic, it seems Jalal is there to listen to her, hence she will put her arguments with conviction and rationality as much as possible. The brother who putting his life at stake, came to Agra just to see his sister's face and know her whereabouts, cannot take away her husband's life and give a miserable life worse than death! Jalal buys logic, if fed. Hope, Jodha stands up for her brother who have none but her in his side.
Yesterday, you remember I told you CVs r expert at surprising us, none of predictions will come true?🤔 it just happened! the jashn which started with hype and much expectations kind of fizzed out, at least in my eyes. I am happy neither Suja nor Jalal got hurt. But we didnt get much awaited confession from Jodha! Rather Sharifuddin put the whole blame on Suja, which was beyond my imagination!😡😭 Here, I was thinking may be after this Jalal-Suja relation will turn good, Bhamal will be dumped..par mila kya? more accusations hurled to Suja who is already living a tragic life. Sigh!😭 My heart goes out to him every time I see him.
Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: skanda12

I agree its difficult to nail Sharif, but surely there is enough to exonerate Sujamal. At that time they may all ask why Sharif was so quick to blame Suja?
I still feel that Sharif may now try the kidnap plan on Jodha separately. But MU between Jo-Ja ... no I don't think that's happening!

Mansi, Sharif is the eye witness who saw Sujamal. So they have believe him, why they will not believe???
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi to start with, I just could not digest how Jodha was grinning from ear to ear while welcoming her father & co. and also could not understand the fact that if she were so happy to meet her father on that great day, why didn't she bowed to him and got his blessings? That should have been the norm, right of a snaskari beti? What did they (Ameri's) achieve in that small period which changed her mindset all of a sudden? We can understand if BM had miffed off with her for some reason and later, on learning about her great deed, if he had come to bless her, that was different or if BM & his troop had recaptured the Mewat, I could understand but for nothing she was beaming so much. I am not against a daughter feeling happy on meeting her parents as I feel the same even if I meet them for the 10th time on the same day, but Jodha was irked by her father for his Gunah?

Jaya they have used some body double for Jodha who must have had a back pain and could not bend and touch the toes of Bharmal! Its Holi season so body doubles are there now in all the serials!
Ok, let's forget that for the time being and let us move forward to ruqaiya...

What is wrong with this lady?😕 The more I try to understand her, I end up scratching head and if the same goes on for a while, I might end up with scratch wounds😡😡. This is not the first time Jalal is attending a Jashn after he married Jodha and in 3 such occasions, he had made Jodha sit next to him (first during her birthday, second during the Jashn for her non-exist child and later on his birthday), then how did this stupid girl can dream about sharing the stage with Jalal by putting jodha away, that too when the Jashn was solely organized for Jodha? Even if she had thought of accompanying him to the Jashn, was that not necessary to keep him updated about her wish, so that he will wait for her? Had she did that, atleast , he would have thought of taking them together (in any case they would have been carried in their own dolis). Still she should have thought of her own request that she wants him to spare his rime for her after Jashn and she never asked him his company during the Jashn. I will not even try to talk about Maham as she will take a front stage on Friday's episode or the whole of next week.

Ruq alos said she is waiting to go for shikar with Jalal after the jashn!😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Later we saw Jalal greeting his subjects and conveying that he had kept his promise by organizing this Jashn as they prayed for Jodha's life. Dear Agra people, keep expecting something bad keeps happening to the royal family, so that you can pray for their life and later you can have a Jashn.😉😉 What sort of a Jashn was that, only the few people stood in front could see the dancers and nothing else? Why didn't they make the citizens sit and arranged the programs (cultural activity) on a dais so that everyone could view that? With that disorganized Jashn, anyone could have killed Jalal or even the entire royals without any problem. Nobody would have even realized, even if Abul Mali was in that group. Ok we should not question that as the Jashn was organized to allow the Assassin an easy access to Jalal's proximity. So Sharif was waiting for the assassin to enter and so was Sujamal but the reasons for their wait was entirely different. So the moment the dancers start the dance, Suja spots the sniper and so is Sharif. Suja got him captive and marched him away from the Jashn while only Sharif noticed it and the most attentive Atgah Khan ddin't even had the slightest of an alert while this happened. Atgah Khan who had the written Paigam with him about the intending murder, was just watching Jalal intently as if to catch him before he collapse😲😲. It was like that joke we have heard numerous time " That the car driver asked the kid to watch the car while he reverse the car and kept asking the kid, whether the car hit the boulder vand kid promptly kept saying no and when it finally hit the boulder with a big bang, the child shouted with eagerness, now it touched". Was Atgah Khan expecting the murderer to come directly head on with Jalal and shiver Jalal's head? How conveniently he forgot about the Arrow attack from the distance?
Jaya we should not expect too much ... I mean asking for Atga to have brains is like way too much!😆😆😆😆😆😆

Sujamal didn't spare time to alert others as he himself was in disguise, so he could not bring it to the notice of the officials, so killed the sniper but the point to be noted here is "He slit the throat of the sniper but from the front and not on his back" Hope Jalal notices this while analyzing the facts. Soon he was surrounded by Sharif and his few men and they had a fight which surely didn't make that much noise to alert Atgah Khan & Jalal to rush to the spot, but yes they did reach a moment after Sujamal sprinted and a failed Sharif, snapped that it was Sujamal who had come to kill Jalal and his man attacked him hence Suja killed him. I hope atleast now, our to-be wazir acts intelligently and order to investigate the belongings of the dead man and also check on his where about from their employment register. Jalal was spitting fire through his eyes and if by chance, Sujamal was in direct line of Jalal's sight, he would have turned into ash.

Good point Jaya (which I marked I blue)! Super!👏👏👏👏
Ok guys, that is for the jashn and the attack but let's see what the precap holds for us:

From the precap, the first thing I can deduce is that, Jodha is not aware of the supposed to be & the spoiled attack on Jalal. And the news about the attack has not been revealed to the public and it has been kept under wrap as Jalal didn't wish to spoil the happiness of his people and create confusion in the people's mood. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to call the Jashn a success and lovely. The moment the news was spread that someone was trying to kill their Shehenshah, (forget about telling Sujamal's name), there would have been uproars and there would have been speculations and accusation about the Jashn and for whom it was organized. So except for Jalal, Atgah Khan & Sharif, only the soldiers who were present with them are the only people who are aware of the intended attack by Sujamal, as they have reasons not to believe Sharif's words about Sujamal. So Jalal wanted to check on Jodha , after the Jashn whether she enjoyed it to the core before revealing her the bitter truth about her traitor brother.

Jalal was wearing a mask of coolness though he was seething from within. It was like the earthen surface before the volcanic explosion. When he saw Jodha on thinking mode, he wanted to know what she is thinking and she unware of the situation has blurted out "about Sujamal Baisa" Poor girl may be she was imagining how happy he would have felt, had he seen the Jashn or how lucky she would have been, had her that unfortunate brother was one among her other brothers during Jashn. She was totally clueless about the Jashn. Otherwise, she would be cursing her fate for having such brother who tried to kill her husband or for her brother who had been blamed for no reason. She would have cried buckets in any case.

What might happen later: Jodha will be upraised about her brother's intentions and his presence in the jashn which might result in...

1. Jodha will believe in Jalal's words as she had seen Sujamal in Agra and will curse herself for letting him free... Sujamal will enter the harem in lady get up and try to tell Jodha about Sharif. She might capture him even before hearing him and might handover him to Jalal, then we will not have any MU between Jodha & Jalal.

2. Jodha will be in dilemma as she can't believe her brother can try to kill her husband as he himself had blessed her a longlife with her husband. If Sujamal enters the harem at that precise moment, she might hear him and he may tell her that he suspects Sharif. This will be katharnak for Jodha's relation with jalal as he will not believe her words as sharif had tipped her about Abul Mali's plans to kill him by using ben and she was the one who proved Sharif as shareef (good man). So Jalal might blame Jodha that just to save her brother, she is blaming his brother in law and then we can see all the vultures waiting in the corner will pounce on Jodha with hatred words and blame her for passing on the crime to the SIL of the sultanate just to save her bagoda Rajvanshi. So MU is clear case here though may not sustain for a long time, it may vanish within that day before the nightfall, because as per makabra scene where the souls of Jalal and Jodha say "That was the last lonely night of our lives!" during the Ben track.)

3. Jodha is punishing her Kanha for putting her life in jeopard, as she will have to choose either her husband or her brother whom she loves equally and have faith in both. So even before the lady Sujamal makes his entry to meet Jodha, he will be captured by Mansinghwho had come to meet the grieving Jodha and being questioned in the DEK. Then he will no other option but to spil the bean that he had entered Agra the previous day to meet Jodha and after metting he could not leave as the entry & exits were covered and so he was spending his night by hiding on top of a tree when he overheard Abul Mali and one of the subhedhar from Agra plotting the murder. So he came to the Jashn just to save Jodha's suhag and he had been framed as the culprit. He might even go to the extent of justifying himself by saying he had sent the paigam through the small boy about the intended attack. The paigam might be checked for authentication and someone from Amer might testify that as his handwriting or that cloth as his rumal (which may or may not have his name on that, duly embroidered by Princess Jodha. Thereby he may be acquitted but Jodha will have to Face Jalal for hiding the truth about Sujamal being in Agra and her meeting him. He might feel bad and even say few words like wheh she had all the time to highlight about slavery, ill treatment to the bhandis, daasis, and implying others for not doing their jobs properly, how could she hide that grave truth that too the one who killed his 2 brother from the back?

4. Sujamal might escape even before someone captures in his lady avatar (may be even before meeting Jodha), but not before Maham notices notice him. So Maham will highlight this in open DEK that Jodha had given shelter to the criminal who had planned to kill their KING, her own husband. Then forget about Jalal getting angry on her, BM might snap at his own daughter and might say he is ashamed to call her as his own daughter (a chameleon) and an hurt Jodha might run away from the DEK all tearing.

Jaya that was a super analysis. But on one point I disagree. I think Jodha would know about the attack on Jalal at the jashn. Or she won't be broaching the subject in the precap about Sujamal. That's my feeling!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Awesome analysis dear!!

I agree that there wont b any MU between Ja Jo anymore!! I also think somehow Jo will b able to convince Ja to investigate even before she hears from Sujamal his side of the story!!
Ja will pay heed to Jo and will definitely do his investigation and hopefully get suspicious of shareef!!

As for the jashn i felt like " oonchi dukaan feeka pakwaan", there was so much hype about the jashn and it came and went like that in few minutes!!
Also now i m loosing patience with this Ruq-Maham jodi and want the end of Maham soon, she is too much repetitive with her instigation dialogues and Ruq is becoming more and more stupid by each episode!!

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 Tahtw as good "oonchi dukaan feeka pakwaan"!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: tamy267

I agree with you Mansi. Even I dont see any MU. Our JaJo now-a-days discuss every matter. They have mature conversation. From precap, I can see Jodha sharing her story of Sujamal with Jalal. She may tell him about her meeting Sujamal in Mandir. Jodha is very good with logic, it seems Jalal is there to listen to her, hence she will put her arguments with conviction and rationality as much as possible. The brother who putting his life at stake, came to Agra just to see his sister's face and know her whereabouts, cannot take away her husband's life and give a miserable life worse than death! Jalal buys logic, if fed. Hope, Jodha stands up for her brother who have none but her in his side.

Yesterday, you remember I told you CVs r expert at surprising us, none of predictions will come true?🤔 it just happened! the jashn which started with hype and much expectations kind of fizzed out, at least in my eyes. I am happy neither Suja nor Jalal got hurt. But we didnt get much awaited confession from Jodha! Rather Sharifuddin put the whole blame on Suja, which was beyond my imagination!😡😭 Here, I was thinking may be after this Jalal-Suja relation will turn good, Bhamal will be dumped..par mila kya? more accusations hurled to Suja who is already living a tragic life. Sigh!😭 My heart goes out to him every time I see him.

This Sujamal seems to have captured any ladies hearts on this forum????😉😉😉😉😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

This Sujamal seems to have captured any ladies hearts on this forum????😉

😆
many of us!😳 mera toh pehle din se uss pe nazar hai☺️
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya that was a super analysis. But on one point I disagree. I think Jodha would know about the attack on Jalal at the jashn. Or she won't be broaching the subject in the precap about Sujamal. That's my feeling!

Mansi, I feel she was visualising Sujamal in the Jashn alongwith her other brothers and also about how he entered Agra to just check on her despite strict security by risking his life. So she was all sad thinking how she could not retain him for the jashn and how husband feels him as an enemy for killings his brothers. So when Jalal asked her about what she was thinking in her flow of thoughts or absent mindedly she blurts out "Sujamal Biasa".

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