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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Priya_nv


My view here is slightly different..see he has known his feelings for Jo even before Krishna Murthi issue. He himself was comfortable in touching her in her hojra after the boat ride issue. I think this indifference now is his way of showing displeasure that she is not repentant about his mistake. See his characterization is same abt when a person does some mistake. He expects people to apologise. See during Sukanya track also he was mad at Jo n was ready to go back to Agra until she apologised. I think if Ruk said sorry may be not to Jo (that's expecting much) but to Jalal atleast then he would have loosed up. At the same time he just found the reason for her giving the vote to Jo. And she is stupid enough to say I value the time with you more than BEK title when she herself was bolstering that as long as I am BEK nothing matters to me. If his indifference continues even after some more episode then I will definetly start feeling bad for Ruk because at the end of the day she is n will be his friend n wife.


Priya,

Quite a valid point and how clever you are to catch this. 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Priya_nv


My view here is slightly different..see he has known his feelings for Jo even before Krishna Murthi issue. He himself was comfortable in touching her in her hojra after the boat ride issue. I think this indifference now is his way of showing displeasure that she is not repentant about his mistake. See his characterization is same abt when a person does some mistake. He expects people to apologise. See during Sukanya track also he was mad at Jo n was ready to go back to Agra until she apologised. I think if Ruk said sorry may be not to Jo (that's expecting much) but to Jalal atleast then he would have loosed up. At the same time he just found the reason for her giving the vote to Jo. And she is stupid enough to say I value the time with you more than BEK title when she herself was bolstering that as long as I am BEK nothing matters to me. If his indifference continues even after some more episode then I will definetly start feeling bad for Ruk because at the end of the day she is n will be his friend n wife.

priya,dis makes more sense..i wish aisa hi ho..u analysed it from a different angle..and i also want this to b the reason of his indifferent behavior towards Ruq..I also want to see it as a problem b/w Jalal and Rukku, not involving jo..i want jalal's behavior is like dat becoz she is at fault.,not becoz he is in love..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony


we have to understand jalal's feelings here as well. his treatment towards his 1st wife is not at all bad. why we r ignoring the fact tht he completely protected her in the murti issue???? he actually left her despite he had proof. he didnt even spared BB for justice, but he actually showed partiality towards ruku. how can we expect him to forget it so soon?? in the last episode also ruku was continuously lying to him & she was not at all guilty for the murti issue. so how do we expect him to be normal towards ruku??? she havent apologized even once. his treatment is not all bad, bcoz when it comes to justice he never left anyone whether its jodha, BB or bharmal. when we didnt mind when he broke all his ties with his own sister, why r we making so much issue when he is not happy about ruku's deeds??? religious issues r really sensitive in those days, so if he ignores ruku few more times as well he wont be blamed. yes if ruku had apologized then things would have been different. thts why though i had felt for ruku many times, this time i absolutely support jalal & his behavior is absolutely right.


Very valid points. Just like we should not feel bad when Jalal ignores Ruq's smaller mistakes because he knows her and accpets as she is, we should not feel bad when he is angry on her. She did cross a line with the murthi prakaran. He was more angry on her for not confessing her mistake than the actual mistake. Already he is half feeling bad that she gives more importance to her audha than him, he is angry and hurt now that she has alienated herself from him that she is not sharing confidences with him. Somewhere he would be missing his friend, old Ruq.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: munnirony


we have to understand jalal's feelings here as well. his treatment towards his 1st wife is not at all bad. why we r ignoring the fact tht he completely protected her in the murti issue???? he actually left her despite he had proof. he didnt even spared BB for justice, but he actually showed partiality towards ruku. how can we expect him to forget it so soon?? in the last episode also ruku was continuously lying to him & she was not at all guilty for the murti issue. so how do we expect him to be normal towards ruku??? she havent apologized even once. his treatment is not all bad, bcoz when it comes to justice he never left anyone whether its jodha, BB or bharmal. when we didnt mind when he broke all his ties with his own sister, why r we making so much issue when he is not happy about ruku's deeds??? religious issues r really sensitive in those days, so if he ignores ruku few more times as well he wont be blamed. yes if ruku had apologized then things would have been different. thts why though i had felt for ruku many times, this time i absolutely support jalal & his behavior is absolutely right.



munni, i just want this jealousy track to end..why ekta is bent on turning into desi sbs! jalal might have been rt in being harsh to ruq in murti kaand but at least he should have acknowledged the fact that ruq wants to spend time with him..and yes she should be honest in her approach which according to cvz she is not but there have been circumstances where she really wished that jalal should love her as his wife and not as a friend!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg



priya, a very good point to think about but the cvz should handle this track with sensitivity because most of the audiences although like watching akhda will not be happy the way his first wife is being treated as i am not!


I agree with you mandy. I am also not a fan of watching such scenes. The tag that "A person should be loved for what they are and not for they are not" that I have heard in this forum in the past seems apt here. The Cvs can work on finding situations where Jo's unique qualities can outshine others. But they are bent on comparing her with others and blacken his other wife's character.

I have been reading many posts that say they sympathize with her because she has given up the post to spend time with Jalal and whats wrong in that? I can relate to Ruk in her fear of losing her friend/husband. Saying that I am also not supporting this Ruk because she is blaming Jo for the dist in her relationship with Jalal and this complaint sounds similar to other begums accusing Ruk of controlling Jalal's mind with her intelligence. She is complaining now that she was busy with her harem handling and so Jo was able to distance her and Jalal. But I got the impression from the start of the show that Jalal spends most of the time with Ruk (her own words many times). So where here does her giving up the election for spending time with Jalal comes up. She has done it with only one intension and that is to separate Jalal n Jodha. I will appreciate and may be relate to her more if she spends atleast 50% of her thinking in understanding the reasons for the change in Jalal who from saying that he has only 'nafrat' towards Jo now is proclaiming publicly that 'I know her and trust her completely'. It is the only way she can get out of the mess because whether we like it or not she grew up with Jalal as a role model and if there is atleast a little bit chance of her understanding the stituation then it should come from understanding not the Sehenshah or her husband but only her childhood friend because at the end she could only relate to that friendship.

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: kmmdesai


Priya,

Quite a valid point and how clever you are to catch this. 😊

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Kshithi


Thanks Kshithi. I usually leave my brains out while watching some other series but JA is different because for you to really enjoy it u need to really put yourselves in their shoes may it be Jalal, Jodha, Ruk or even MA.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Priya_nv


I agree with you mandy. I am also not a fan of watching such scenes. The tag that "A person should be loved for what they are and not for they are not" that I have heard in this forum in the past seems apt here. The Cvs can work on finding situations where Jo's unique qualities can outshine others. But they are bent on comparing her with others and blacken his other wife's character.

I have been reading many posts that say they sympathize with her because she has given up the post to spend time with Jalal and whats wrong in that? I can relate to Ruk in her fear of losing her friend/husband. Saying that I am also not supporting this Ruk because she is blaming Jo for the dist in her relationship with Jalal and this complaint sounds similar to other begums accusing Ruk of controlling Jalal's mind with her intelligence. She is complaining now that she was busy with her harem handling and so Jo was able to distance her and Jalal. But I got the impression from the start of the show that Jalal spends most of the time with Ruk (her own words many times). So where here does her giving up the election for spending time with Jalal comes up. She has done it with only one intension and that is to separate Jalal n Jodha. I will appreciate and may be relate to her more if she spends atleast 50% of her thinking in understanding the reasons for the change in Jalal who from saying that he has only 'nafrat' towards Jo now is proclaiming publicly that 'I know her and trust her completely'. It is the only way she can get out of the mess because whether we like it or not she grew up with Jalal as a role model and if there is atleast a little bit chance of her understanding the stituation then it should come from understanding not the Sehenshah or her husband but only her childhood friend because at the end she could only relate to that friendship.



priya, another beautiful point and i cannot disagree on that👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
mandyg...how many times should we give ruku chance...she has crossed all limit now...chance should be given when the culprit regrets n wants to reforms himself/herself...but in terms of ruku...there is none...there is no regret...remorse in her face...she is so blinded by the obsession of her power that in the process she is hurting everyone including jallu who is her best friend...there is so much arrogance n pride in her that she seems to ignore the difference b/w right n wrong...all she understands is she needs to win by any cost

regarding jodha...she knows jallu has many wives...she has lived with it for so many years...this is nothing new that jallu spends night with different wives...she has encounter it with pinash begum 😆 ...why so much insecurities...the reason is not becos she loves jallu...its becos she fears her Audha will be taken away by jodha...the way she treats jodha is disgusting...during mohan track she slap jodha...than body heat track she insults jodha...on jodha's birthday she tried to present her old set of jewellery...tasneem-ruqlal divorce track she insult jodha...ben's track was worst...jodha's poison track her comments while visiting conscious jodha was cheap...fatehpur sikri track she behave so badly with jodha n treat her like a maid...n now to win the elections..she stoop low n slso the way she was flaunting away to jodha abt her plans with jallu was childish...n whatever she has done...she has no regrets on her face...she must get this facts straight in her head that jodha is also jallu's wife...if only she accepts Akdha relationship with wholeheartedly n give importance to jallu's happiness than her own...she would be the most secure person as BEK n as jallu's friend...wife...philosopher

the only time I really liked her was during her MC track...where she showed jallu the mirror n saved jodha's life...the early stages of JA when jodha did not enter jallu's life...she was classy...I liked her during jodha's fake pregnancy track too when she had the pain of not bearing a child...n was thinking abt her MC
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Mages

mandyg...how many times should we give ruku chance...she has crossed all limit now...chance should be given when the culprit regrets n wants to reforms himself/herself...but in terms of ruku...there is none...there is no regret...remorse in her face...she is so blinded by the obsession of her power that in the process she is hurting everyone including jallu who is her best friend...there is so much arrogance n pride in her that she seems to ignore the difference b/w right n wrong...all she understands is she needs to win by any cost

regarding jodha...she knows jallu has many wives...she has lived with it for so many years...this is nothing new that jallu spends night with different wives...she has encounter it with pinash begum 😆 ...why so much insecurities...the reason is not becos she loves jallu...its becos she fears her Audha will be taken away by jodha...the way she treats jodha is disgusting...during mohan track she slap jodha...than body heat track she insults jodha...on jodha's birthday she tried to present her old set of jewellery...tasneem-ruqlal divorce track she insult jodha...ben's track was worst...jodha's poison track her comments while visiting conscious jodha was cheap...fatehpur sikri track she behave so badly with jodha n treat her like a maid...n now to win the elections..she stoop low n slso the way she was flaunting away to jodha abt her plans with jallu was childish...n whatever she has done...she has no regrets on her face...she must get this facts straight in her head that jodha is also jallu's wife...if only she accepts Akdha relationship with wholeheartedly n give importance to jallu's happiness than her own...she would be the most secure person as BEK n as jallu's friend...wife...philosopher

the only time I really liked her was during her MC track...where she showed jallu the mirror n saved jodha's life...the early stages of JA when jodha did not enter jallu's life...she was classy...I liked her during jodha's fake pregnancy track too when she had the pain of not bearing a child...n was thinking abt her MC



mages, the cvz are trying to malign her character so that jodha can shine and rise! i do not know how the real ruq would have been but instead of showing her gray she is completely blackened out! i did not like jalal and ruq scene on friday it did not gel well with me as a viewer..i hated the fact that the first wife of akbar's character is butchered and now she is being shred into pieces by showing her the vamp of the show..i can accept gray but not black..she might have been grayish in reality but in the show she has been downgraded to being black! i want to see this ruq approaching jalal with honesty and jalal helping her out to redeem herself and not sideline her completely! being his first wife and friend she does deserve at least that much!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: mandyg



mages, the cvz are trying to malign her character so that jodha can shine and rise! i do not know how the real ruq would have been but instead of showing her gray she is completely blackened out! i did not like jalal and ruq scene on friday it did not gel well with me as a viewer..i hated the fact that the first wife of akbar's character is butchered and now she is being shred into pieces by showing her the vamp of the show..i can accept gray but not black..she might have been grayish in reality but in the show she has been downgraded to being black! i want to see this ruq approaching jalal with honesty and jalal helping her out to redeem herself and not sideline her completely! being his first wife and friend she does deserve at least that much!



mandy,

If u still believe that Ruqayya's image is being butchered deliberately EVEN now after 24 pages of discussion..That too only to raise jodha's image...Rofl...then i feel in coming episodes many may EVEN sue Ekta for all this. 😆...!...

just another reminder...keep a tab on GB also. I am writing beforehand otherwise ppl may again blame CV's for this ALSO..!...

Also Ruqs is not black. But if u feel she is shown as black then search another word from vocab to describe her in coming episodes. Beacuse this word wont be able to xplain Ruqs then.. Lol...

Anyways nice discussion...good thread indeed..!...

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