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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post. Loved reading your in depth prediction. It's time for Jodha and Akbar to confess their love now.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi, i am not able to think about these, i am totally confused😕 this harem issue is getting on my nerves😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Dear Mansi,


Your takes on each episode opens up an entirely new perspective .. But yes, yesterdays episode was hardly worth watching except the emotional turmoil of JA-JO. Rest was crap..
and THE Sujamal entry gives me shudders. I feel however that CVS are going the movie way only.. because if you notice they are just extending each track .. Even in movie when Jalal-Jodha had reached this level of trust ..a big MU happened ..and this is going to happen here also..I guess..thanks to MA-Ruks team... But I guess along with MU they will have to show some positive happenings otherwise we will stop watching JA

We are not here to see the 64 toothed Mahams smile now combined with shrieky Ruks smile .. Or how we hate watching Shariffuddin lusting JO. I would much tolerate Adham out of all these... at least he leaves our JA-JO in peace... They can show Adhams death and Bharmal and Co. winning back Mewat.. from Sujamal. and maybe Shivani=Tejwant track side by side... otherwise it will only be a torture to watch JOdha-Jalal relationship undergoing this torture at such a juncture... won't be able to bear it.. better stop watching till everything irons out...

I sometimes wonder how Rajat and Paridhi have brought these two characters to life...that we really have become so attached to them as if they are some real life characters...!!! WE THINK SO MUCH ABOUT THEM... ARE WE SANE ENOUGH????
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Largely i think in altercation abt any serious emotional issue, jj wl confess their luv for each other in by the by talk suddenly then they wl realize what they actually have said few time before..their luv confession wl b happened in huge drama not in simply way.
I don't think bb wl say to jodha abt sharif's nasty eying on her rather i wish frm bb(if she is really grateful on jodha) or that painter somehow jalal wl get hint abt sharif's lusting on jodha n it wl b very much gud for jodha b/c 1st we get to see possessiveness in jalal fr jodha n 2nd jalal wl keep eye on sharif so as to sharif won't get chance to make separation/mu amid jj..n as of now jalal may not say anything to sharfu b/c bb is pregnant but if jodha gets to know sharif's worse intention then she wl definitely confort sharif asusual but won't disclose jalal for the sake of bb thinking jalal wl punish sharif n wl fall in sharif's dirty spurious.
Nice analysis..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi, despite MH as love guru and his advice, something tells me it will be my much maligned TE who will tell his Baaghin of his love - and at the same time he will also exonerate her from any reciprocation!!! My TE has the guts and gumption to face every fear down and come up trumps!!!

As for Sujamal - I am expecting a surprise package from the makers and definitely no MU - not from my TE!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Superb prediction mansi. I really hope u r right about sujamal. I liked the teasoning u said that ekta might have assumed that we r expecting MU so she might surprise us WITHOUT MU. I am really worried about sujamal track.
Anther thing, i noticed how scary was MA today when she looked on both sides and then came clse to RUQ and said that no one more than me wishes to remove jodha from jalals life with constraint anger and then suddenly she gracefully does adab and leaves. Ruq seemed lil aback with MA sudden change of tone and expression. MA looked like psycho. She has always been evil but today she looked very scary and crazy when she said aboutb removing jodha.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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MANSI,good analysis predictions are good. i will write after sometime.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i so love reading your predictions
wonderful analysis and review
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, this is going to be a bit of a short post today because I have an office presentation to get ready and I haven't even started on it. I am very crushed for time today. But there were just two or three high points in yesterday's epsiode that merit some attention. I am highlighting these points an also making a huge prediction at the end:


Mansi you devoted far too much of your busy time to a forgettable episode! So this is for you. 👍🏼

I did not like it for one particular scene, so LONG VENTING post.

One, Jodha and Jalal seemed to be condering whether to declare their love for each other.

Moti was on one side cajoling Jodha to go and tell her feelings to Jalal and Jodha was wondering if she should do so. On the other side, Jalal was hesitating telling his feelings to Jodha because he couldn't risk another rebuff from her. He consulted - of all people- Hakim Mirza (the local love guru?) who said Jalal should certainly talk of his feelings to his lady love ... but if he has already once had a rebuff then he'd better not talk of it again, for fear of spoiling even the friendship that now existed.

So all in all, the question now arises: Will the subject of their feelings be broached between Jo-Ja now? If so, who will tell their feelings to the other first. I feel either Jodha will tell Jalal of her feelings first, or both may wait it out. But it looks certain that Jalal may not be the fiirst to tell Jodha of his heart, for fear of the second rebuff, and for fear of losing the fragile friendship that has been built with Jodha in recent times.

I am not sure if all this "feelings and rebuffs discussion" yesterday is a sanket that the old Jodha paigam will now be read and Jalal will come to know that Jodha rebuffed him only because she had not enocuraged him to come to her hojra in the first place. But the truth is that even if the old paigam were found (and Rahim helped Jalal to know the truth that Maham had embroidered the paigam contents), it still doesn't makeJalal sure that Jodha is nowadays readier to receive his advances than before. So I think Jalal, once bitten twice shy, will try not to broach the subject, even if the paigam is found ... whereas Jodha, with Moti's egging may decide to gather courage and broach the subject to Jalal. If Jodha decides to tell her feelings to Jalal it would only be fair, for Jalal has already made one try with Jodha. It is now her turn, and I hope she does think of talking to him - that is, if this Sujamal entry now does not create a fresh MU!

Jalal is right about Jodha being the bravest woman he has seen. Jodha might just go to Jalal and confess her love.

His fear of rejection again is very right but has he thought HOW he made his declaration? It has not even occured to him that Jodha did not believe him since she thougth he was saying stuff in his drunken state?😆😆😆

His insecurity can only be sovled if letter MU is solved. If that is done he MIGHT start to keep eye on MA. Atleast he will know Jodha did not lead him on! But guess CVs are not going to do that to their precious MA!

Two, Jalal sought Salima's advice on this whole harem election business. I anticipate a twist in the election.

It was a short scene between Jalal and Salima, but it seemed important, since it gives some sanket of a twist in the elections to take place in today's episode. Jalal went to Salima to say his mind is tossing and turning with this whole harem issue, and he really doesn't relish the prospect of having to name one or the other of his wives as the harem in-charge. Choosing anny one wife is surely going to upset the other! Salima just suppressed a laugh and said that was the whole nature of Kingship - one could not run away from facing the unpleasant duties. So either Jalal could remain as he was -in uljhan - or just choose the one wife as the "audhedaar of the harem" and be done with it. Jalal too sardonicallly laughed that there was no other way out.

If this scene had come before the Murti episode it would have made more sense. I fail to see why Jalal should be in two minds now😕😡

Jodha DID NOT want to take part, JALAL persuaded her, he kept talking to her about now be ready to take haram responsibiity, you will be busy with haram, you will have to do this for me after you win blah blah --- AND NOW he is in two minds?!!!

Let us keep aside his existant/not existant/only soul wala love for Jodha - it is JALAL WHO THOUGHT Jodha should accept more responsibility, that she is capable. He knows haramites are not happy with the way Rukayya runs haram. He has seen her arrogant insulting ways. Jalal saw to what depths she can sink to win and STILL he is IN TWO MINDS??? He still DOES NOT THINK JODHA IS RIGHT?

Why can't he vote for Jodha? Is he SO SCARED OF RUAKYYA'S TANTRUMS?

If he DOES NOT THINK JODHA IS suitable then why did he goad her to stand???

If he is in two minds because he does not want to choose then how is it NOT HURTING JODHA? If the votes are exactly divided - that will not matter to Jodha, she will see IF JALAL SUPPORTS HER, if he does not then what the 🤬 was he talking about for the last week?

Jalal seems to be only physically attracted to Jodha and he is craving her love BUT HIS MIND, HIS HEAD IS STILL RULED by Rukayya. In this instance BY NOT VOTING FOR JODHA he will be unfair to half the haram who wants change, he will be unfair to Jodha who stood for election because he encouraged her. So for NOT HURTING RUKAYYA as usual JALAL IS OK TO NOT STAND BY JODHA????

This when HE HIMSELF considers she will do a good job?

Then I am sorry but Rukayya is right, HIS HEAD IS RULED BY RUKAYYA STILL.

If he has not got guts to stand by who will do better job with the haram he is failing to stand by right. If he is so scared of hurting Rukayya then he HAD NO RIGHT TO PUSH JODHA.

Nabii made one excellant point yesterday, when Jalal did not reveal Rukayya hand in Murti matter in front of everybody in haram - that he had no hestitation ever in PUBLICLY INSULTING OR RIDICULING JODHA EVER.

Even when Rukayya is in the wrong HE STANDS BY HER. He did not hesitate to insult BB but he WILL STAND BY RUKAYYA NO MATTER WHAT.

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If Jodha stands up to say she does not want it be haram head, then HOW IS SHE CARING FOR half the people WHO VOTED FOR HER, who expect her to improve their condition?! Like Ruksar who told her either do something or then do not pity them.

Just by abolishing slavery how are haram conditions going to improve? Do you seriously think if Rukayya wins SHE IS NOT GOING TO THINK OF THIS AS HER VICTORY AND REALLY CHANGE FOR THE BETTER? No way not THIS RUKAYYA.

Rukayya will think Jodha GOT SCARED of losing, that Jalal WOULD HAVE ONLY CHOSEN RUKAYYA and that is why Jodha withdrew to save face. She will say this openly to everybody and think this and WILL GET MORE BLOATED HEAD!

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I think we still might get the MA rush in DEK to announce the kid in Jodha's hojara before Jalal has to vote and all the resultant drama. This WAY JALAL WILL BE SAVED having to take side of Jodha! Or he might want to choose his precious Rukayya😡

They might give us Babaji ka Thallu and he might postpone elelction results and his choice, till this matter is resolved.

Sujamal meeting Jodha might NOT be shown in today's episode at all!

I think Sujamal Jodha meeting might be short and if he sees some guards of hers he might just tell her he will meet again later and go off before they get a chance to have a long talk! So this way CVs can keep SUJAMAL HANGING with fear of MU on viewers heads!


But later in the episode the sabha was full of the voters and the candidates, ready for the elections, when Jalal announced the rules of the election. It would be an open election, and every voter would have to transparently declare her choice of candidate between Jodha and Ruqaiya. The one with the maximum votes would be declared "audhedaar of the harem".

We all know from the precap that it becomes a tie and Jalal is placed in the unhappy position of having to give in his casting vote in favour of one or the other wife. Who will he choose? Now here we can all go to town on our predictions. My own prediction is that he will noot actually have to choose, because suddenly Jodha will say "I don't want the vote or the audha, I want to give the audha to Ruq - but I want get a promise from the Shahenshah to abolish slavery which is a curse upon the Sultanate".

She will then dramatically produce Babu from her quarters and tell his story (and the stories of the other slaves she had met on the street), and even maybe take everybody to the backrooms of squalor at the harem and show them the plight of the slave bandhis. Thus Jalal will again be impressed and thrilled to see Jodha's far-reaching vision for the kingdom and her compassion for aam praja. He will also be able to see that Jodha never wanted any audha at all. And thus Ruq will be reinstated and as promised yesterday to Hamida, Gulbadan may give Ruq a lot of advice to change her highhanded ways and do a good job at the harem.

(There was a lot of speculation amongst all of us yesterday whether this boy Babu being in Jodha's room would be a black mark agaisnt Jodha for transgressing harem laws, but I think it will not be. This is because the promo hints at the tied election being the high point of the election and not the MU regarding the boy. Also Sujamala has now made an entry so I feel sure sure that there will be a not be a series of MUs one after another now - first about the boy and then about Sujamal etc etc. It won't get that complicated, is my hunch.)

Three, Sujamal's entry may be timed with the Jodha love declaration to Jalal and the unmasking of the Sharif portrait issue.

Thes e three things looks like they will form one track. On the one side Jodha, after the harem election business is over and she has the eyes and heart of Jalal in her pocket, may decide that she should follow Moti's idea of telling her feelings to Jalal. At the same time, Bakshi Bano may start getting seriously upset that her husband is too preoccupied with this Jodha portrait and she may start saying it has to be given away to Jodha immediately and go an give it to Jodha saying her husband accidentally painted this isntsead of Bakshi's own portrait.

Now while all this is happening, Jodha may go too the market on a separate trip to the Ambe Ma temple to give thanks after the slavery issue is settled. She may then chance upon Sujamal in beggar's disguise and already the precap shows that her initial happiness at seeing him soon changes into a wariness about him, knowing how angry Jalal is with him.

By some combination of events, I feel that initially Jodha may be tempted to not tell Jalal about having met Sujamal, and she may advise Sujamal to go away unseen. But Sujamal may insist he did not do this peet ke peeche se war on Jalal's cousin brothers - and Sharif and his henchman may be involved in that creatiing stabbing-like wounds as a twist perhaps when the bodies were en route to bein returned to Agra. That may bring the topic round to Sharif ... and Sujamal may also tell Jodha to beware of Sharif as he has a burri nazar on her ... and Jodha may remember tha pianting that Bakshi brought to her saying Sharif got it done!

What will happen to Sujamal after that - and will Jodha herself tell Sujamal to go and face Jalal openly, or will she give up Sujamal to Jalal, or will Sujamal himself flee after hearing that Jalal thinks he did peet ke peeche se war, or wll Sujamal flee after Bharmal and Sons arrive with Mewat in their hands - its all up for conjecture.

My own hunch is that Sujamal may decide to give himself up to Jalal and tell the truth as Jodha advised, and even offer to return Mewat back to Jalal to prove his truthfulness - but he may instead decide to flee when Bharmal and Sons will enter the picture with Mewat captured by them thus leaving Sujamal with nothing to offer back to Jalal. Thus Sujamal's entry may give a scare of MU but may fizzle out after he flees. Bharmal and Sons will patch up with Jalal.

Instead of detailing any scenes today, I want sum up all that I have written above and detail my predictions and timelines here ... (see if you all agree with what I am writing):

1. Jalal has already started the elections at the sabha by reading the rules yesterday, so now the election will happen today, and it will be a tie. But just before Jalal has to vote, Jodha will say "Please give your vote to Ruq, I want no audha, I want instead your promise to abolish slavery". She will produce Babu, and tell his story, and show everyone the state of the baandhi life in the harem. Jalal will be aghast and thus abolish slavery. He will be thrilled and impressed again with Jodha's absence of audha greed and compassion for the slaves.

2. Jodha will then decide to tell Jalal her heart's feelings as per Moti's egging. Meanwhile she will plan a trip to Ambe Ma temple to pray thanks for the slavery settlemment. That's when she will chance upon Sujamal as a beggar ... and she will be in two minds what to do with him. He will say he never did the "peet ke peeche se war" and blame Sharif and his men for that and also tell Jodha of Sharif's burri nazar. Jodha will be in two minds what to do with Sujamal. Jodha's uljhan may lead her again to the tarazu where Jalal may give some advice which will help her on the handling of Sujamal. Jodha's will then perhaps advice Sujamal to give himself up to Jalal, and may convince Sujamal to face Jalal and explain his innocence, and as proof of his sincerity he should also return Mewat to Jalal. Sujamal will be prepared to do this.

3. Meanwhil, however, Bakshi may bring the portrait of Jodha to her room and explain that Sharif accidentally got it painted. Jodha will now realise that Sharif does indeed have burri nazar and Sujamal was right. She will again have an uljhan what to do as Sharif gets bolder and bolder with her. Should she tell Jalal or handle it herself? That will be Jodha's new dilemmma.

I am dreading this scene, cos we might very well get BB bring the painting and leave it in Jodha's hojara not finding her there and MA as usual getting hands on it and then concluding SD has his eye on Jodha and will start her next BIG MU. While Jodha might not get the painting and has no idea, and BB will as usual keep worshipping her worthless husband.

Interesting twist will be IF JALAL GETS THE PAINTING. If MA gets it as she is CVs favorite about such matters BRACE FOR A BIG MU.

Even Javeda is a brain surgeon compared to BB😡

4. Now while Sujamal is all set to face Jalal and explain his innocence and return Mewat, these Bharmal and Sons may arrive in Agra after successfully re-capturing Mewat again for Jalal, and thus Sujamal's plans to make a peace offering to jalal will go phut. Sujamal may thus flee instead of facing Jalal. And the Bharmal family will patch up with Jalal after this display of wafaadaari.

5. But Maham or some villain like that will have seen Jodha with Sujamal and may decide to create muddy waters between Jodha and Jalal. But despite the chaals of Maham, Jodha will not get caught with Jalal regarding Sujamal, because unknown to maham, Jodha may at that very moment decide to confess her love to Jalal. This will actually divert Jalal's mind away from Sujamal into accepting Jodha's love and declaring his own mind.

6. IMPORTANT: My personal hunch is that this Sujamal case will be used by Ekta to spin a surprise on the audience. She knows that we have all seen the movie and are expecting and dreading this Sujamal MU. So Ekta may deliberately create an MU like situation (by making Maham spot Jodha with Sujamal) to raise the TRPs ... but as a surprise twist this Sujamal trip may fizzle out without any MU and leave us all relieved. The TRps will shoot up high from fear of MU ... but the matter will actually then resolve peacefully and the love of Jodha and Jalal will go forward.

Okay now that I have given my prediction please everyone have a ball. Unleash your own predictions here!

I will be happy if Jalal shows guts to go against Rukayya, cos he KNOWS Jodha will do a better job of haram and votes for her. If NOT, I think Jalal's whatever feelings or love, he is STILL MA AND RUKAYYA's Jalal in every other way.😡😡😡


Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Mansi, despite MH as love guru and his advice, something tells me it will be my much maligned TE who will tell his Baaghin of his love - and at the same time he will also exonerate her from any reciprocation!!! My TE has the guts and gumption to face every fear down and come up trumps!!!

As for Sujamal - I am expecting a surprise package from the makers and definitely no MU - not from my TE!!!



I would LOVE to see what all you have predicted. It will be fabulous if Jalal professes his love, do you think he will? After MH's advice of yesterday?

I think not Suj but the Painting falling in hands of MA might cause big MU. She will use it to bring down SD and drive apart JJ somehow.

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