Looks like Jalal wants Jodha to give up the harem after the election! - Page 6

Originally posted by: peepu

Definitely we both send up thinking the same...

I am also sure jalal is doing the socho ko Taulna thing now too

He was comparing his two begums one very willingly shares her husband with any woman and happily does it only thing when she feels threatened is when her audha is unsafe.

Being a man jalal always felt a little less wanted as a man for his wife.

Jalal was too happy when jodha got jealous and possessive for him because that was his lack in life.

He was in search of this kind of love and jodha filled that void in him.

The oil maalish scene with bandhi was also significant some epi back..jodha dint even budged an inch till that bandhi was away from the sight, the moment poor thing was away lo the queen was sitting next to him with a puppy face.

So this was a subtle continuation of the same streak of Jodha which makes jallu run behind her.

As per history MUZ was a right hand in many affairs of sultanate.. what I feel manasi that sujamal is not going to be caught now this track is to restore amers honour and elevate bhagwan and mansingh so both maham and adham become desperados...

May be suja comes to meet jodha and is not recognized he is unable to meet her and in the meanwhile mewat news comes so sujamal flees and is helped b y cheapu.

Jalal can be both jealous and possessive and suja card will not be open now it is a big card.like you im also of the same opinion that no MU is coming due to suja may be confusion nothing more.

This track was necessary to subdue ruquaiya and may be a new palace to jodha.

But my point is why jodha still away from love?

Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Great analysis for a so so episode!!

Jalaal will definitely see thru Ruqu's saazish today as he was already hinting Jo that she is in a war coz he knows how Ruqu is!! Anyway, Jo will b the winner but the ques is will she give the powers back to Ruqu after making her realize of her faults?? I think she will, coz as Jalaal said she wud not like to do some of the work she will have to as the head of harem like keeping a record of who he is spending time with and stuff!!

But i m just waiting for their romance and direct confession, gid knows when that will come

Originally posted by: rpeez

I know he is, and I completely agree with you Mansi, but, if the CVs wanted Jodha to give up the harem responsibilities soon after winning the elections, why make this grand show of showing the dark side of harem happenings to Jodha?

Jalaal's mind is a Pandora's box, that has all kinds of ideas, but a maze that I won't want to go near. 😕

Originally posted by: skanda12

II think the idea is for Jodha to abolish slavery and then also because Jalal wants her to start taking responsibility and not sit quiet like an eternal guest. After she wins the election, maybe he will give the harem back to Ruq and give Jodha bigger responsibilities. I read somewhere that in history Ruq always managed the harem and Jodha was given charge of the ships and the Haj pilgrims.

Mansi you bring so different/hidden emotions of the actors, you are such a good analyst. I feel the episode is not complete until I read your post(and a couple of others too)

I am actually liking almost all the episodes after Ben track. Each one is taking Jalal-Jodha relation a bit further, stronger and towards being a perfect couple.

I was jumping with joy (though Jodha was crying) when Jodha said "Even if Sujamal is my brother, the Shahenshah is my pati. As a King, his decision is the right one. As his Begum I cannot go against his decision. " . As you have rightly said, her loyalty has changed, she is completey Shahenshah's begum now. Mughal is her home first and then comes Amer. She will still feel bad about her maike and brother if anything happens but her first priority is Jalal/Agra/Mughal.

Regarding the garden scene -

1. Just by seeing her he understood she is not happy and he also understood its because of Sujamal

2. He tried to explain that he can't help it as being Shahenshah he need to punish the guilt.

3. Then he tried to cheer her up and changes the topic

4. Yes, he knows and is 100% sure it is nothing less than a war atleast from Ruq side but Jodha is just able to understand so many hints. Well, he has cautioned her and she is taking it lightly. I guess he will realize it in today's episode after kanana's murthise issue.

5. I was thinking he was just making her jealous by bringing the topic about night and ladies. But as you have mentioned, he might want her to give this haram to Ruq back and take more responsibilities as well.

Question - Mansi, do you really think he wants to spend time/night with other begum's?

AK-SD - hope they create Mu's among themselves and kill each other. Good end.

MA - she speak to AD right next to Jalal and Jalal can't hear her .

Ruq-Hosiyar - The less said the better. But MA had a valid point. She said how can so many murthies enter haram. I guess she will get to know it is Ruq, but well all of us know she will no way favor Jodha. (Or will she, because she too wants to teach Ruq a lesson)

Precap - I feel Jalal knows who is the culprit but he might not support Jodha in front of everyone, reasons are

He being shahenshah cannot take anyone side(It might look unfair)

He wants Jodha to take it seriously and learn about administration/politics and also be ready to take bigger responsibility

Ruq to not feel bad/hurt that Jalal is supporting Jodha.

Originally posted by: Joja

Mansi you bring so different/hidden emotions of the actors, you are such a good analyst. I feel the episode is not complete until I read your post(and a couple of others too)

I am actually liking almost all the episodes after Ben track. Each one is taking Jalal-Jodha relation a bit further, stronger and towards being a perfect couple.

I was jumping with joy (though Jodha was crying) when Jodha said "Even if Sujamal is my brother, the Shahenshah is my pati. As a King, his decision is the right one. As his Begum I cannot go against his decision. " . As you have rightly said, her loyalty has changed, she is completey Shahenshah's begum now. Mughal is her home first and then comes Amer. She will still feel bad about her maike and brother if anything happens but her first priority is Jalal/Agra/Mughal.

Regarding the garden scene -

1. Just by seeing her he understood she is not happy and he also understood its because of Sujamal

2. He tried to explain that he can't help it as being Shahenshah he need to punish the guilt.

3. Then he tried to cheer her up and changes the topic

4. Yes, he knows and is 100% sure it is nothing less than a war atleast from Ruq side but Jodha is just able to understand so many hints. Well, he has cautioned her and she is taking it lightly. I guess he will realize it in today's episode after kanana's murthise issue.

5. I was thinking he was just making her jealous by bringing the topic about night and ladies. But as you have mentioned, he might want her to give this haram to Ruq back and take more responsibilities as well.

Question - Mansi, do you really think he wants to spend time/night with other begum's?

AK-SD - hope they create Mu's among themselves and kill each other. Good end.

MA - she speak to AD right next to Jalal and Jalal can't hear her .

Ruq-Hosiyar - The less said the better. But MA had a valid point. She said how can so many murthies enter haram. I guess she will get to know it is Ruq, but well all of us know she will no way favor Jodha. (Or will she, because she too wants to teach Ruq a lesson)

Precap - I feel Jalal knows who is the culprit but he might not support Jodha in front of everyone, reasons are

He being shahenshah cannot take anyone side(It might look unfair)

He wants Jodha to take it seriously and learn about administration/politics and also be ready to take bigger responsibility

Ruq to not feel bad/hurt that Jalal is supporting Jodha.

Originally posted by: skanda12

Diksha, lovely post! Especially the way you have described the full dynamics of the Sujamal-Jodha relationship and its good and tough parts!👏

Actually Diksha, though I often feel sorry for the state Sujamal is in, I sometimes can fully understand why Bharmal chose Bhagwan das and not Sujamal as his successor.

1. Suhjamal thought the throne was automatically his because his father was the Raja before his younger brother Bharmal became Raja when he died. Now Sujamal therefore assumed he would get the throne that his father occupied, But Bharmal was correct in giving the thromne to the best son for the job.

2. In Bharmal's eyes, Sujamal was a bit of a hothead. he took rash decisions, and most of all he fought with other Rajvanshi pprinces themselves so Bharmal thought he needed a successor who was a pacifist - more conciliatory, more sedate and strong minded, less prone to knee jerk reactions and one could help to consolidate the warring Rajvanshis rather than fragment them.

3. Sujamal was a good brother to Jodha teaching her many arts and he himself was an outstanding sipahi, but we do not know how reliable he was to Bharmal, isn't it? So the sister may carry a good impression of him, but her father may not carry such a good impression of his nephew?

For these and many other reasons Sujamal looks like a bit of a rash and reckless person. But he has his own charm and his own relationship with Jodha was something only they could understand who shared that bond.

I hope one day Jalal understands this bond, just as he himself had a bond with bairam Khan. Bairam to the rest of the world was aruthless blood thirsty man and he did teach that to Jalal, yet there was a bond of love between Jalal and bairam which Jalal only will understand and others won't. That is the sort of inexplicable thing that Jodha has with Sujamal, I feel.

Anyway, let's see how the story progresses. It is interesting!

Originally posted by: skanda12

@All: Here is a prediction let's see if it happens!

I think Hamida would have bought lots of kanha moorthis to see that all Hindu bandhis can have their own Gods and pray to them. All the moorthis may be stacked in a room ready for distribution.

But Ruq may have thought Jodha bought all this and may have done the distribution via Hoshiyar that night itself to put the blame on Jodha.

But at the moment that Ruq complains to Jalal, Hamida may say it was her idea not Jodha's and the situation may be saved by Jalal declaring "Why should Jodha do sucjh a thing now when it will reduce her votes from the larger population of Mughal haremites who will be upset?"

Actually when Ruq says Jodha must have done this to benefit in the election, Jalal may say how will she benefit since the number of hindu bandhis are less than the number of Mughal ladies in the harem, and in any case all the Hindus will vote for Jodha only with or without the moorthis?