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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arieltabi

Thnks a lot dear for sharing this info. Now I got it why he was called Akbar the great. My respect for him is increasing day by day. He respected people of all religion. Think so much has done so much for his people. He was really a very great king.I hope they show all this in the show too.They have already showed child marriage and slavery is next.
As I m from Bangladesh and a science student I didn't know so much about mughal empire. I haven't read much about him in history. In school mostly we read about the history of bengal, british period and pakistan period in detail. About Mughal empire. In class 6 or 7 there was a chapter about Mughal empire. They wrote about Babur to Aurangjeb one page on each emporer. So u can understand how much I know about the Mughals. And as history was my most hated subject I forgot most of it.
But this show made me interested about Akbar's life. Thnks to this forum Abhay, Kamal and all of u I m learning a lot about Akbar.

Thanks for liking it Arieltabi.
I don't take much interest in history either, but the lives and achievements of certain personalities in Indian history like Chandragupta Maurya, Ashoka, Rani Lakshmi Bai, Akbar, Raja Raja Chola, Veer Shivaji, Narasimha Pallava are interesting to even non-history-lovers. Each one of them have their own style and range of achievements. Some were great conquerors, some great art lovers and some excellent administrators while some were prodigously brave . But in Akbar you can see all these qualities. More importantly he had the broad mindedness, wisdom and vision to think beyond religious, cultural and social divides that makes him a fine human being apart from being a great emperor. He changed the face of the entire nation during his rule.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Great post Sandhya, I didnt know many of the things that you have written.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Sandhya for putting it all together. Very informative😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks sandhya
Fantastic read...absolute pleasure...


😭 btw, trips im with sandhya and abhay on this one...genghis khan might be a powerful conqueror but of the information ive come across on him i would never even place him on the same sentence as akbar...there is a reason akbar comes with suffix great and genghis with the suffix mighty manslayer...

in his latter life, akbar was known for his humanitarian reforms which genghis has never been popular for...
besides what lovestory really when hes spread his genes all over the continent... articles state a good percentage of the population today have genes that can be traced back to him...hes looted, pillaged, mercilessly raped and plundered people yaar...so what difference if he did it in a golden robe or commoners clothes
At least akbar was not this mis-adventurous here 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you for this! Here in the states, we're not taught much, if at all, about Akbar. I remember reading in my history book freshman year about Moghals (Yes, it was spelled like that) and their autocratic rule that was mostly unified under Akbar. And that was it - the textbook wrote Akbar off as a footnote in history so thank you!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaz713


Thank you for this! Here in the states, we're not taught much, if at all, about Akbar. I remember reading in my history book freshman year about Moghals (Yes, it was spelled like that) and their autocratic rule that was mostly unified under Akbar. And that was it - the textbook wrote Akbar off as a footnote in history so thank you!


Many things they dont teach you in the States to keep you in the darkness and then believe whatever you are told
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think as a nation, we're very open-minded and ready to face our past - we never just accept whatever is put in front of us but are taught to question it, hence people think we don't respect our elders. 😆

Actually, I wouldn't expect them to elaborate much on Akbar, America never had a connection to the India of those times. America wasn't America until the 1700s hence they had little ties to the Mughal empire.

Originally posted by: albakry


Many things they dont teach you in the States to keep you in the darkness and then believe whatever you are told

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jaz713

I think as a nation, we're very open-minded and ready to face our past - we never just accept whatever is put in front of us but are taught to question it, hence people think we don't respect our elders. 😆

Actually, I wouldn't expect them to elaborate much on Akbar, America never had a connection to the India of those times. America wasn't America until the 1700s hence they had little ties to the Mughal empire.


Hi Jaz, I grew up in India but spent most of my youth in the US. I know a little bit about both cultures and consider myself to be loyal to both nations. I agree with you on several points...
1. Open minded people... Mostly true, though not always... Have you ever lived in the bible belt?
2. Taught to question facts... I love this about their culture. And who says that Americans don't respect their elders? They do.
3. There is no need for them to spend pages on the Mughals. Just like Indian history books don't spend pages on the American civil war.

However, what Albakry said is also not entirely false. Especially when it comes to information about other countries. The media is surprisingly quite biased and focuses on self glorification. No wonder, most americans didn't know what hit them on 9/11. I remember that day clearly. Everyone was asking...why us? We are good people. We help other nations. How can anyone hate us? A majority is still clueless and thinks it is because people are jealous of their achievements. Most people don't have a clue about foriegn policies and international affairs. To them, India is a land of extreme poverty, cows on street, curry and Taaj Mahaaal...and of course outsourcing due to 'cheap labor'...not better skills. The only program on American tv that does a good job of reporting international affairs is Fareed Zakaria's GPS on CNN( no, he did not pay me to write this😊) How many times have you seen a program on Japan, Germany or Australia that highlights their achievements, foriegn policy ans other positives on main channels. They gave more footage to the gang rapes in India than the mission to Mars. This is human nature...to feel better by seeing someone else's misery. We all fall for it. But, in today's well connected world...fighting Ignorance is not a choice...it is a necessity. Otherwise, we keep basking in our glory and remain unprepared for the future.

Sandhya, I am sorry...I'll stop here. I didnt want to distract anyone from your awesome post. But since this came up...I just shared my views. Hope you don't mind it. 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas


Regarding Akbar and Sati, please read this. I got it from the internet.

The Mughal Emperor Akbar seems to have promoted (without much success it would seem) widow remarriage amongst hindus.

But it was in the case of Sati that his measures actually ended up reforming Hinduism.
He was quite disgusted with the whole concept of Sati as is evident by one of Abul Fazl's quotation of Akbar on this subject in the Ain-i-Akbari. He had an earnest desire to put a total, unconditional ban on Sati. Unfortunately, many of the prominent Hindus at the time opposed an unconditional ban on Sati, and so Akbar had to drop the idea since he did want to take any such step without evolving a general consensus on the issue.
On the question of Forcible Sati, however, he put his foot down. Forcible Sati was banned throughout the Mughal Empire.
It is a historical fact that on at least one occasion, the Emperor Akbar was obliged to stop a case of forcible sati through his personal intervention. The facts are as follows:
Once, Akbar heard that a lady of a royal Rajput family whose husband had just died was being forced to commit Sati. As soon as he heard this news, he immediately climbed on his horse and rode to the house of the concerned Rajput family *by himself, all alone*. [His personal security guard, when they heard the emperor had gone off all on his own, galloped after him.]
He arrived at the house just in time to stop the Sati taking place; already the woman was being led out of the house for the Sati site (after having been drugged). By his sheer force of personality(he was all alone) he was able to stop the sati from taking place.
[This particular incident, of Akbar stopping the forcible Sati, is described in detail in V.A. Smith's book, 'Akbar the Great Mughal']
In book 3 of Abul Fazl's Ain-i-Akbari (chapter titled 'Happy Sayings of his Majesty'), the greatest of all the Mughal Emperors, and one of the greatest Emperors of India and indeed the world is recorded as saying:
"It is a strange comment on the magnanimity of men that they should seek their deliverance through the self sacrifice of their wives."
Credit for abolition of sati rightly goes to Raja Ram Mohan Roy who did a lot of work in raising awareness about this social evil, but his predecessor in this matter was the great mughal emperor Akbar who was to my knowledge the first Indian emperor to have officially banned forcible sati in his empire, thus contributing to the fight against for women emancipation.




TRUE!


Said lady then became his sister for life. Used to tie the raakhi thread to him every year. 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas



Genghis Khan was certainly a great conqueror but he has a very negative image all over the world, except Mongolia.

Regarding that report about "Green Earth". That is not a jest. It is a serious report of the contribution made by Genghis Khan to reduce carbon emissions. You can google it on the internet.




No am sure the report you quoted very much exists, and I'll Google it & read it.


But what I am saying isn't in jest either. If you read historical accounts, talk to historians, you'll realize a lot of western propaganda & the obvious manipulation of facts in the case of Genghis Khan.



As for carbon emissions, while bad, are nothing in front of the other horror done repeatedly & with nonchalant regularity as by Ashoka The Great ( the utter cruelty that hadn't been preceded in the age & empire he ruled) before he gave it up & took to Buddhism & is credited for the promotion of Buddhism. The Roman Emperors like Nero etc.



The obvious propaganda against Genghis Khan isn't world-wide. It mainly begun from the west & it is mainly because of the "over-accomodative" willingness to take propagandas to be Reality, that today more than half the world believes that Genghis Khan was a blood-thirsty brutal inhuman conqueror.


Don't get me wrong. By no means I am saying that he wasn't.


All that am saying is that it was not ir-regular or something that did not take place in the period & place he came from.



What propaganda has done is to eliminate his INCREDIBLE ACHIEVEMENTS, his GENIUS, AND the compassion & humanity that existed in his personality & left just one facet ( that too vaguely) - His territorial conquests. Because that is something too well-documented to refute/deny/ write over.




And ultimately, What truly sets these Kings/Emperors apart, more than their un-believable achievements, si their willingness to see the folly of their deeds & RISE ABOVE THEM. 👏






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