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Posted: 11 years ago
#51
Even I think the same, fingers crossed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very good post, Cleo... must say both these brother and sister right now r unfortunate where relationship is concerned... who can stand by whom? Jo for Sujamal or sujamal for Jo?

Ok, Jodha , later got support from Akbar (if this is the real truth), but before that, the struggle she must have done for making her own place in Agra, is just Gr8... how can she stand by sujamal, how much she wanted to do it, when till date she is not sure of her own place? when she is not sure, if she stands by Sujamal, Jalal will believe her words and will let Sujamal go free? and if she has to face one more humiliation , he so called backstabber family of amer will never stand by her... and when she needed him most, even Sujamal wasn't there with her... so i don't think Jodha really has any option but accept Jalal's decision, whatever he own feelings for Sujamal will be...

and abt sujamal, then, when he himself had nothing to survive, what support he could offer Jodha?

both of them suffered for other's deeds... let's see what they have in their future...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyavm


Tamy, we think alike again. I also think Sujamal will save Jodha from SDa.

I ALSO THINK, JALAL TODAY SAID, SUJAMAL SHOULD BE CAUGHT, ANYWAY. HE SHOULD BRING IN FRONT OF HIM AS A SHACKLED PRISONER FORM. IF SUJAMAL WILL NOW JAIL &SEE PAINTING OF JODHA, HE WILL KNOW SHARRIF PLANS. SO WHEN SHARRIF WILL KIDDNAPPED JODHA, JALAL &SUJAMAL WILLBE SAVEED JODHA. JALAL & SUJAMAL REALTION WILL BE BECOME BETTER







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Posted: 11 years ago
#54
Nice post 😊
A different take is refreshing .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Ela has every right to give dant😆
But I am 100% on side of Jodha, who is right who is wrong - I think the circumstances are wrong. Sujamal was right from his point but HE went to Mugals SD and he chose who he partnered with

Jodha is the one paying the price - it is always women who pay the price😡

I doubt Jodha knows truth about SD Sujamal - why would Amerians tell her when they know how much she loves Sujamal?!

She HATED having to marry Jalal and even tried to commit suiside. She hated him with all her GHRINA - what else can she do? It is easy to die but very hard to EXTREMELY HARD to live the life she led - that is why I am 100% for her

Bharmal was tricked into agreeing to marriage of Jodha with Jalal - I saw that epi - Chugtai Khan suddenly brought out the subject and Jalal seemed to agree. It is only later Ch Khan told Bharmal that SD had an eye on Jodha, CK was saving Jodha

What would have SD done if he had entered into Amer😡🤢

If Jalal had been cruel or bad I am thinking Jodha would have committed suiside
She cannot defend Sujamal fully cos SOMEBODY RAISED VERY IMP POINT - that see what Shivani did to her!!!

This is bad situation where everybody is right from their side

See Sujamal WENT TO MUGALS out of choice WHILE BHARMAL DID IT OUT OF HELPLESSNESS
I am not defending him but - what they both did - JODHA PAID THE PRICE
SHE STILL IS - COS SHE IS GOING TO HURT FROM BOTH SIDES FOR JALAL AND SUJAMAL


Off today...will try to watch the earlier episodes on zee website.
I agree with you that Sujamal went to Mughal's side out of choice.But don't agree with Bharmal's 'helplessness'. He had another choice...fight and attain ' veergati'. Isnt this what Suryabhan did? What about MP who chose a very difficult life over giving up fighting for his motherland. It was a different era. . In those days, mughals were viewed as invaders...just like we view Britishers now. People defended their honor before their lives. Bharmal made a choice...to sacrifice his dispensible daughter to save his sons...this is not helplessness. I don't buy the 'saving the rajya crap'...did he not fight other wars for the fear of losing his soldiers? You said it...it is the women who pay the price. In those times these kings and kingdoms chose 'Saka' and 'jauher' over humiliation. Can't blame them entirely. Their life was worse after losing the battle. Isn't this what the spartans did at the battle of thermopylae? They didn't offer their daughters to Persians in exchange for their kingdom. Someone commented that jodha/ HK was lucky...she found a sensible man.Imagine if Jalal was not Akbar. Imagine the humiliation she would have gone through.
I've read the updates of today's epi. I think Jodha still has a lot of love for Sujamal. She'll probably stand up for him at a more appropriate time. We know that he died at a younger age. Hope to see his dignity restored before that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cleo12345


Off today...will try to watch the earlier episodes on zee website.
I agree with you that Sujamal went to Mughal's side out of choice.But don't agree with Bharmal's 'helplessness'. He had another choice...fight and attain ' veergati'. Isnt this what Suryabhan did? What about MP who chose a very difficult life over giving up fighting for his motherland. It was a different era. . In those days, mughals were viewed as invaders...just like we view Britishers now. People defended their honor before their lives. Bharmal made a choice...to sacrifice his dispensible daughter to save his sons...this is not helplessness. I don't buy the 'saving the rajya crap'...did he not fight other wars for the fear of losing his soldiers? You said it...it is the women who pay the price. In those times these kings and kingdoms chose 'Saka' and 'jauher' over humiliation. Can't blame them entirely. Their life was worse after losing the battle. Isn't this what the spartans did at the battle of thermopylae? They didn't offer their daughters to Persians in exchange for their kingdom. Someone commented that jodha/ HK was lucky...she found a sensible man.Imagine if Jalal was not Akbar. Imagine the humiliation she would have gone through.
I've read the updates of today's epi. I think Jodha still has a lot of love for Sujamal. She'll probably stand up for him at a more appropriate time. We know that he died at a younger age. Hope to see his dignity restored before that.



I agree totally about Bharmal - EXACTLY he sacrificed Jodha for his sons😡

Just remember one thing - TODAY 450 YEARS LATER IT IS MAHARANA PRATAP AND SHIVAJI MAHARAJ WHO ARE WORSHIPPED, not Bharmal

People STILL talk about Jodha Akbar - It is NEVER Akbar Jodha but JODHA AKBAR

She was magnificent woman and I like to believe she changed Akbar and it is TO HIS CREDIT THAT HE WAS NOT A TYPICAL 16th century man THAT HE CHANGED DUE TO HER AND FOR HER

That is why we are watching their story😊

What I remember Sujamal truth did come out in front of Jalal but late, Sujamal saved Jalal from SD but this is in future probably
Sujamal end is not near in serial he did not get kingdom

Happy viewing old episodes on zee website and enjoy your holiday😃

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



I agree totally about Bharmal - EXACTLY he sacrificed Jodha for his sons😡

Just remember one thing - TODAY 450 YEARS LATER IT IS MAHARANA PRATAP AND SHIVAJI MAHARAJ WHO ARE WORSHIPPED, not Bharmal

People STILL talk about Jodha Akbar - It is NEVER Akbar Jodha but JODHA AKBAR

She was magnificent woman and I like to believe she changed Akbar and it is TO HIS CREDIT THAT HE WAS NOT A TYPICAL 16th century man THAT HE CHANGED DUE TO HER AND FOR HER

That is why we are watching their story😊

What I remember Sujamal truth did come out in front of Jalal but late, Sujamal saved Jalal from SD but this is in future probably
Sujamal end is not near in serial he did not get kingdom

Happy viewing old episodes on zee website and enjoy your holiday😃


Thanks for mentioning Shivaji Maharaj...he fought a more ruthless and fanatic enemy...Aurangzeb.
JA and not AJ...Good observation... I never paid attention to this one.
I agree, we have to give credit to Akbar...who can change someone who is not willing to change.
Even the zee website episodes are not working😭last hope...my mom records the show on her DVR. Will watch It when I visit her. 😊 Till then, put up with me and my ignorance.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i feel bad for sujamal...on one hand he loves his sister so much...and on the other hand his family cheated him...he never got what he really deserve...and now when steps in Agra to meet his sister...death is waiting for him with its open arms...not only in Agra but Amer as well
what we really fear of sujamal is the MU that will create b/w Akdha...its going to be painful to watch...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very good post, I haven't being a big fan of Sujamal but your post made me look in his pov and understood what he is going through
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Suja equals karna.
I agree totally.

And, one thing which i read on him was his love for his sister HK.

Yes, he had the right to gaddi.

And, in 'his' opinion he did right by going with Sharif's side. One thing - he wanted to fight FACE TO FACE, not like backstabbing anyone... He fought for his 'hak'. I already wrote before - he can't be called a gaddar. Gaddari is what Sharif and others are doing with Jalal.

Atleast Suja is head on infront.

Also, lets wait. I am sure Suja has not done any wrong.


ABHAY SUJA, EQUALS KARNA, CLEAR IT.

KARNA DON'T KNOWS PANDAVES ARE THEIR BROTHERS, HE ALSO NOT KNOWS KUNTI BEAHIVOUR.

SUJAMAL KNOWS, JODHA SACRIFICED HER LIFE, &MARRIED JALAL SAFTY OF AMER

WHY SUJAMAL ATTACKED, MEWAT?

DURUODHAN GIVED KARNA SOME STATUS, SO KARNA FAITHFUL TO HIS FRIENDSHIP.

SUJAMAL KNOWS ABOUT SHARRIF INTENSIONS,WHY HE NOT ADDOPTED CLEAR
METHOD, TO TELL JODHA OR JALAL SHARRIF INTENSIOS ARE WRONG.

WHY HE CHOOSED MUGHALS, TO ATTACK AMER?

SECONDELY WHY ATTACKING MEWAT, HE PUT JODHA'S LIFE ON PRESSUR WHICH SISTER

HE LOVES SO MUCH.

DOUGHTED THESE QUES'S. SO PLEASE CLEAR. IF BHARMAL NOT GIVE HIM RIGHT,

WHY HE IS USING WRONG METHOD?KARNA HONEST HIS FRIENDSHIP, BUT WHY SUJAMAL

NOT FAIR IN BROTHER &SISTER REALTIONSHIP.

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