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Posted: 11 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: munnirony

awsum analysis. well i was actually worried about jalal's role in this whole jodha-ruku clash. i thought tht he will be standing like an umpire & ultimately will announce the results. so he wont have nothing much to do. but im glad jalal is actually playing an imp. role in this whole matter. people r saying tht its a choice b/w love & friendship. bcoz his situation is bit diff from mazhar. he has to move forward with both love & best friend. so for me its a choice b/w right nd wrong. whether its love or friendship he will support the justice. like he didnt even spared his own sister when he felt she is wrong. most imp. thing is my TE is back. the way he encouraged jodha was commendable. acc. to sum he is trying to humiliate ruku by doing elections. but election is the most fair thing he can do to both jodha & ruku. though he wanted jodha to take up responsibilities, still he wasnt unfair to ruku. infact, by doing the elections he showed tht he is actually unbiased to both.๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

You are absolutely right. Even I agree that the election was the most fair thing to do! What else could he have done to display his impartiality?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Loved reading ur post...was missing them so much for the past couple weeks as i was on holiday with family!!

Anyway i love and agree with ur predictions specially where Jalal finds out about Sharif lusting over Jodha and getting overly protective of her!!

Thanks as always, Riishbala!๐Ÿ˜ƒ
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: cherryb

Lovely analysis. I haven't seen the episode as yet (it's showing tonight on Zee USA).

Don't miss this episode for anything!๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜›๐Ÿ˜›
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Perfect Analysis , Mansi...

i m not writing much, coz u haven't left me anything to write...

HERE'S MY PREDICTION FOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN:

Based on the precap it looks like Ruq will do everything possible to put Jodha off-track in the next four days leading up to the election. Already in the precap, Ruq looks like she is trying to play the "religion" card. By placing Kanha moorthies in the rooms of all Hindu bandhis (against harem rulles) and accusing Jodha of doing this , I think Ruq is trying to fan the Muslim vs Hindu divide in the harem. I expect Jodha will eventually overcome this issue ingeniously, and also find many more such petty but bothersome saazishes from Maham/Ruq in the coming week, which she will have to solve one by one.

Meanwhile there's one point that I want to emphasize here. Yesterday there was a scene where Ruq slaps Hoshiyaar so hard for saying something in favour of Jodha, that Hoshiyaar then resigns from Ruq's service and runs to Jodha to give him a job out of pity. Till that point I thought maybe Hoshiyaar was really distraught and really wanting to lose the Ruq job and was begging for some work from Jodha. But then Hoshiyaar suddenly mentioned that if he did not get a job from Jodha he would commit suicide. At that point my antennae started zinging! Why the undue blackmail to get Jodha to somehow employ him? It struck me then that there's a 50-50 chance of Hoshiyaar really being distraught and desperate - or maybe this is all a saazish of Ruq's. What if she had told Hoshiyaar "I'll slap you twice in public, and you then go and give this suicide dhamki and make Jodha employ you. Then you can give me the inside info on everything Jodha is plannning and doing so that I can beat her at this election!" My feelings are now swinging in the direction of this Hoshiyaar employment beinga total saazish!

Ditto my thoughts... yest when Hoshiyaar directly went to Jo, even i thought, why Jo??? he could have gone to Jalal and told him everything and ask him to give some other work.. so why Jo? and so even same thought came to my mind... Ruku's plan to defeat Jo in competition by putting Hoshiyar in Jo's harem and knowing Jo's plans beforehand so that she can make counterplans...Again Mansi, we think on same lines...


Anyway, the new promo shows that Jalal may be supporting Jodha each step of the way - not by telling her what to do, but by using reverse psychology to spur her to take her own decisions. So eventually Jodha will win the election, is what I feel.

I also feel, he will support her...i said so in ur thread abt friday episode...

Jodha's big act after victory will be to get Jalal to abolish slavery. Once she does that she will then maybe make a speech to the haremites to please again accept Ruq as their head, and a suitably chastened Ruq may be more than willing to get back her audha. I did have a doubt whether Ruq may not like to take Jodha's discarded audha, but I now feel that Ruq is so audha -fixated that she won't mind getting her power back by hook or by crook.

I also think that Jalal will give Jodha some other bigger responsibilites after she has thus proved herself in the harem affair. What that audha and role will be we have to see. I am keen to see if it makes Ruq then feel that being the Begum-e-Khas is smaller than Jodha's shiny new audha and responsibilities. But it is clear Jalal is grooming Jodha to become the MUZ and he is sparing no effort to encourage her determination, support her talents, warn her against Ruq's strengths and generally show her that's hes very confident of her! He s a really nice guy, this Jalal!

Perfect ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

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TRACK TWO: The Sujamal issue becomes ugly as Jalal receives the bodies of his brothers unethically killed in war

This is another conflict that Jodha now has to face between getting Sujamal punished and quelling her love for her dearest brother. I see another tarazu scene coming!

Just as i feared, (i wrote same thing in ur thread on wed or thu episode) Sujamal issue has started right before BEK election track... and now both track will play simultaneously , and thus will provide MA and Ruku one more opportunity to put blame on Jo for helping the enemy...

MY PREDICTION ON THE SUJAMAL ISSUE:

All of us were imagining the movie story to happen, that Jalal may mistake Sujamal as Jodha's lover and banish Jodha after a big MU etc. But my prediction now is very different after I saw yesterday that Jalal and Atga knew that Sujamal was Jodha's brother and a traitor of the Amer clan. But Jalal and Atga etc have not physically seen Sujamal. So my guess is that Sujamal will now try to come to Agra in disguise to meet Jodha (to see if she is well after the snake poison issue). At first the Creativves will give us a lot of suspense and we will wonder if Jodha will try to save Sujamal or hide him from Jalal.

BUT ... here is where I think Jodha will remember what Jalal said at the tarazu - that since her marriage she is now an Agra-ite, and her home is here and her husband arnd family and loyalties are here. Jodha will remember this ...and when Sujamal shows up, I have a feeling that she herself will give him up to Jalal as a traitor and a backstabber of war and ask that he should get the harshest punishment. But even as Jodha hands Sujamal over to Jalal, her astute husband Jalal may see the tears in her eyes and realise how hurt she is deep within that she has to hand over her dearest brother to be punished or even executed by Jalal. Jalal will not be able to see Jodha in so much pain, and he may ask her what Sujamal means to her ... and she may share her childhood with Jalal and talk of how Sujamal was so close to her.

Then I think, in a gesture of love to Jodha, Jalal may himself surreptitiously release Sujamal from prison, and act as if he has himself escaped. Jalal will do this to save Jodha from further pain but he will also not want his people to think he has let off Sujamal easily. Sujamal may now actually get a new respect for Jalal after seeing Jalal's gesture of love for Jodha. And that is why much later when Sharif plots to kill Jalal, Sujamal may snoop and come to Jalal and lose his own life in saving Jalal (as in the movie ending).

again my thoughts ... i also expect Jo to meet sujamal and then handover him to Jalal and ask him to punish Sujamal and apologizing for herself to meet sujamal without Jalal's permission... and then Jalal setting him free , and challenging him for war soon, and thus making Jo happy and gaining more respect and trust in her eyes..

Regarding Mewat, while Sujamal is in Agra, Bharmal and sons may go there and recapture Mewat and give it back to Jalal - and the Amer and Agra families may reconcile! This is my prediction .



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TRACK THREE: Sharif gets the same lady painter to paint Jodha's portrait - and may get exposed by that painter!

MY PREDICTION ON THIS SHARIF ISSUE:

The lady painter is surely going to sneak to Jalal about this Sharif leching after Jodha. Now that may be interesting ... not because Sharif will get caught - he may or may not - but because we could see a jealous Jalal getting more aggressively in love with Jodha! Anything can happen when a man already in love suspects another fellow to be lusting after his beloved! I am expecting some additional chemistry sparks to start flying! Also since Mewat may be recaptured by Bharmal and Sons, I expect Sharif to be despatched to his Mewat subehdari immediately!

perfect again... just same thoughts on this one too



Mansi and Diksha, I am having different view about Sujamal track prediction

Jalal is not yet Akbar and he is still very much under the influence of MA, Ruk on political matters not to forget entire DEA, DEK members.
I somehow don't see him letting Sujamal run away from jail (cos he still fought war against Mugals)

If Sujamal meets Jodha he might manage to run away OR Jodha herself will go to Jalal and tell him she met Sujamal (maybe in some Mandir) and she talked to him about the war and what she and Jalal talked about and Sujamal denied doing this. So Jalal might be angry and if this comes in front of MA & Ruk esp, Jalal might give some small punishment to Jodha

I am sure there is some hidden thing in Sujamal track, which might come in front of Jalal later and he will realise Jodha was telling the truth

SD keeps talking very creepily but confidently about Jodha, so I think he might have some plan to use Sujamal's name to get Jodha to do something or go somewhere๐Ÿ˜ก

Lets see how this track unfolds, your views please๐Ÿ˜Š

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Mansi and Diksha, I am having different view about Sujamal track prediction

Jalal is not yet Akbar and he is still very much under the influence of MA, Ruk on political matters not to forget entire DEA, DEK members.
I somehow don't see him letting Sujamal run away from jail (cos he still fought war against Mugals)

If Sujamal meets Jodha he might manage to run away OR Jodha herself will go to Jalal and tell him she met Sujamal (maybe in some Mandir) and she talked to him about the war and what she and Jalal talked about and Sujamal denied doing this. So Jalal might be angry and if this comes in front of MA & Ruk esp, Jalal might give some small punishment to Jodha

I am sure there is some hidden thing in Sujamal track, which might come in front of Jalal later and he will realise Jodha was telling the truth

SD keeps talking very creepily but confidently about Jodha, so I think he might have some plan to use Sujamal's name to get Jodha to do something or go somewhere๐Ÿ˜ก

Lets see how this track unfolds, your views please๐Ÿ˜Š

Maddy, one thing I feel sure about is that Jodha will tell Jalal if she sees Sujamal. Remember she even openly told Jalal that she saw Sharif in jail. She will not hide any meeting. But if she knows from Sujamal that he did not do the peet ke peeche se war, then she will argue Sujamal's innocence in that respect with Jalal. She may say "Yes Sujamal did wage war on Mewat, but he did not do this backstabbing. he is the one who taught me everything I know about swordsmanship and warfare and he taught me never to backstab" etc etc. Mean while she may also tell Sujamal not to hide from jalal but to go openly to Jalal and face him. Thus she may handover Sujamal at least to plead the case that he didn't do this backstabbing.
Meanwhile Bharmal and Sons may recapture Mewat and create a reconciliation with Jalal. I feel this Sujamal entry will definitely create suspense of possible MU for all of us ... but it will end on a positive note without MU. That's just a hunch I have.
If Sharif has done this backstabbing to create rift between Ameris and Jalal, he will checkmated by re-establishment of good ties between Jalal and Amer even though Amer family will never allow Sujamal back into the family because of his bhagawat!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#86
Mansi, was out of the town for 2 days, just now watched the episodes...

I liked friday episode where Jalaal clearly wanted JO to start accepting her role of wife & compete with Ruku.. I think Jalaal already knows how Ruku manages haram, but now he just like salima saw Ruku arrogence & how she is loosing herself while Jodha is gaining popularlity..may be he also wants to see how JO will be after getting power, people will change when they have power... Jalaal genuinely wants Jo to understand politics & also want to train her and will later will give her higher responsibilities and haram to Ruku back...Jalaal was teda riling up Ruku against JO & also want JO to work hard ...

Maha episode was equally good... Jalaal is beside Jo to take up the responsibility & that nod while leaving shows his support for her ...Hoshyiyar is much with Ruku only, as she is using against Jodha... I think Jalaal will get to know how much Ruku can stoop low for getting power...I think he will silently help will & will encourage her & may be he himself will tell hamida & salima to help JO, as these 2 are allways supported her...

Sujamal track... I think Sujamal will meet JO secretly and may be Jo will warn him that he is against her husband now & gaddar to Ameer . May be Sujamal will get arrested or Jalaal gets to know from Ruku JO meet Sujamala secretly... I think there will be small MU between them, but he also gets to know Ruku-Hoshiyaar as a team how Ruqu did all tricks to get back the haram warden, like peet peche war kiya on Jodha... I think Sujamala -Shariff will become one to attack Jalaal &may be sujamala will get to know Shariff lust on JO or JJ relationship and will save Jalaal ...

Hope the painter tells Jalaal that shariff has eyes on JO, or somehow Jalaal gets to know someone is eyeing on JO or BB gets doubt on shariff has he still kept JO picture secretly in his room and will save JO last minute from Shariff .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi, was out of the town for 2 days, just now watched the episodes...

I liked friday episode where Jalaal clearly wanted JO to start accepting her role of wife & compete with Ruku.. I think Jalaal already knows how Ruku manages haram, but now he just like salima saw Ruku arrogence & how she is loosing herself while Jodha is gaining popularlity..may be he also wants to see how JO will be after getting power, people will change when they have power... Jalaal genuinely wants Jo to understand politics & also want to train her and will later will give her higher responsibilities and haram to Ruku back...Jalaal was teda riling up Ruku against JO & also want JO to work hard ...

Maha episode was equally good... Jalaal is beside Jo to take up the responsibility & that nod while leaving shows his support for her ...Hoshyiyar is much with Ruku only, as she is using against Jodha... I think Jalaal will get to know how much Ruku can stoop low for getting power...I think he will silently help will & will encourage her & may be he himself will tell hamida & salima to help JO, as these 2 are allways supported her...

Sujamal track... I think Sujamal will meet JO secretly and may be Jo will warn him that he is against her husband now & gaddar to Ameer . May be Sujamal will get arrested or Jalaal gets to know from Ruku JO meet Sujamala secretly... I think there will be small MU between them, but he also gets to know Ruku-Hoshiyaar as a team how Ruqu did all tricks to get back the haram warden, like peet peche war kiya on Jodha... I think Sujamala -Shariff will become one to attack Jalaal &may be sujamala will get to know Shariff lust on JO or JJ relationship and will save Jalaal ...

Hope the painter tells Jalaal that shariff has eyes on JO, or somehow Jalaal gets to know someone is eyeing on JO or BB gets doubt on shariff has he still kept JO picture secretly in his room and will save JO last minute from Shariff .

Abhi, see just above your post I have answered Maddy on the same Sujamal point. See if you agree.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi I actually liked the maha epi since after RR disaster maha epi , I was not expecting much twist and turns here ๐Ÿ˜† and so I was sort of fine with the maha epi as they did show some major high points like the reason why Jodha decides to compete for the Harem election and Hoshiyar's U-turn plus Sujamal issue and not to forget the aweome Jalal-Jodha convo in front of Tarazu ... so these twists were enough for me to like the epi ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

My most fav moment is Jalal-Jodha interaction in front of Tarazu where Jalal could see that Jodha is in dilemma and so indirectly he helps her getting out of that dilemma by making her realise how as a woman she is really very head-strong and does hv the capabitlity to become a fair leader of common people ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ .. Loved the way Jalal compliments Jodha as a woman and makes her realise that if she wants to change the system , then got to b a part of the same system first to bring out a change ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ; Loved the way Jalal tells Jodha that now Agra is as much as as hers too since she is the wife of Agra's Shehenshah โญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธ .. Jalal could feel that Jodha lacks that certain confidence of being a part of Agra community and so he gives her the confidence that she is part of Agra too otherwise she would hv never felt for its people so hard โญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธ .. No wonder Jalal's words gives her the courage and determination to go for the fight ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Till now it was always Jodha who gave the courage and confidence to Jalal whenever he was in some dilemma whether its Bakshi bano issue or Shariff issues or other matters but this time Jalal does the role reversal and gives the same moral boost to Jodha which I loved the most in the epi since finally I can see both as husband-wife standing on equal grounds with a balanced tarazu between them where noone is superior than the other or there is no one upmanship or ego involved ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Coming to whole Harem issue , I liked the fact that Jodha has a valid reason to compete for the Harem leadership and not just for the sake of it ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ; She wants to give justice to those Bandhis and make sure the ill-treatment stops which is quite a fair excuse to compete with Ruqaiyya ...

Coming to Hoshiyaar case , I actually thought its genuine of Hoshiyar to come to Jodha the way Ruqaiyya treats him like a doormat ; But yess the whole suicide dhamki did look fishy and even Moti warned Jodha about it , so it might b Ruqaiyya's trap to make Jodha look manipulative in front of Jalal so that she looses the election ๐Ÿค” ; In fact new promo too shows something like how kanha idol is found in all harem rooms and Jodha asked all to pray to Kanha forcibly leaving their own religion which obviously Jodha cannot do , so its definitely Ruqaiyya doing it by asking Hoshiyar to spread false orders from Jodha now that he is suppose to work for Jodha ๐Ÿค”


Sujamal issue's base is set up now .. Jalal already planning revenge on Sujamal ./.. Will b interesting to see Jodha's dilemma here ... But one good thing is Jalal knows Sujamal is Jodha's brother , so he wont doubt Jodha of any sort of infedility at least ๐Ÿค” ; But yes if Sujamal secretly meets Jodha to ask about her well-being , I do see Jalal misunderstanding Jodha's loyalty here as despite showing her those dead bodies , she still meets Sujamal ; Though Jodha might hv no idea Sujamal will suddenly come to meet him but Maham might do some manipulations as usual and make it look as if Jodha olny called Sujamal there to warn him about Jalal's men planning to attack him ...

Phew so lots of interesting possibilities came out from this Maha epi .. thats why I quite liked it ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi I actually liked the maha epi since after RR disaster maha epi , I was not expecting much twist and turns here ๐Ÿ˜† and so I was sort of fine with the maha epi as they did show some major high points like the reason why Jodha decides to compete for the Harem election and Hoshiyar's U-turn plus Sujamal issue and not to forget the aweome Jalal-Jodha convo in front of Tarazu ... so these twists were enough for me to like the epi ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

My most fav moment is Jalal-Jodha interaction in front of Tarazu where Jalal could see that Jodha is in dilemma and so indirectly he helps her getting out of that dilemma by making her realise how as a woman she is really very head-strong and does hv the capabitlity to become a fair leader of common people ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ .. Loved the way Jalal compliments Jodha as a woman and makes her realise that if she wants to change the system , then got to b a part of the same system first to bring out a change ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ; Loved the way Jalal tells Jodha that now Agra is as much as as hers too since she is the wife of Agra's Shehenshah โญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธ .. Jalal could feel that Jodha lacks that certain confidence of being a part of Agra community and so he gives her the confidence that she is part of Agra too otherwise she would hv never felt for its people so hard โญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธโญ๏ธ .. No wonder Jalal's words gives her the courage and determination to go for the fight ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Till now it was always Jodha who gave the courage and confidence to Jalal whenever he was in some dilemma whether its Bakshi bano issue or Shariff issues or other matters but this time Jalal does the role reversal and gives the same moral boost to Jodha which I loved the most in the epi since finally I can see both as husband-wife standing on equal grounds with a balanced tarazu between them where noone is superior than the other or there is no one upmanship or ego involved ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Coming to whole Harem issue , I liked the fact that Jodha has a valid reason to compete for the Harem leadership and not just for the sake of it ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ ; She wants to give justice to those Bandhis and make sure the ill-treatment stops which is quite a fair excuse to compete with Ruqaiyya ...

Coming to Hoshiyaar case , I actually thought its genuine of Hoshiyar to come to Jodha the way Ruqaiyya treats him like a doormat ; But yess the whole suicide dhamki did look fishy and even Moti warned Jodha about it , so it might b Ruqaiyya's trap to make Jodha look manipulative in front of Jalal so that she looses the election ๐Ÿค” ; In fact new promo too shows something like how kanha idol is found in all harem rooms and Jodha asked all to pray to Kanha forcibly leaving their own religion which obviously Jodha cannot do , so its definitely Ruqaiyya doing it by asking Hoshiyar to spread false orders from Jodha now that he is suppose to work for Jodha ๐Ÿค”


Sujamal issue's base is set up now .. Jalal already planning revenge on Sujamal ./.. Will b interesting to see Jodha's dilemma here ... But one good thing is Jalal knows Sujamal is Jodha's brother , so he wont doubt Jodha of any sort of infedility at least ๐Ÿค” ; But yes if Sujamal secretly meets Jodha to ask about her well-being , I do see Jalal misunderstanding Jodha's loyalty here as despite showing her those dead bodies , she still meets Sujamal ; Though Jodha might hv no idea Sujamal will suddenly come to meet him but Maham might do some manipulations as usual and make it look as if Jodha olny called Sujamal there to warn him about Jalal's men planning to attack him ...

Phew so lots of interesting possibilities came out from this Maha epi .. thats why I quite liked it ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ

Jyoti, lovely post (as I can expect always!)ClapClapClapClap
On Sujamal, I have a slight doubt that Sharif has done this peet ke peeche se war and put the blame on Sujamal as I doubt Sujamal will do that kind of thing. maybe Sharif got his henchman to do it?
Now if Sujamal comes to Agra he will surely come in disguise and try to meet Jodha. One thing I feel sure about is that Jodha will tell Jalal if she sees Sujamal. Remember she even openly told Jalal that she saw Sharif in jail. She will not hide any meeting. But if she knows from Sujamal that he did not do the peet ke peeche se war, then she will argue Sujamal's innocence in that respect with Jalal. She may say "Yes Sujamal did wage war on Mewat, but he did not do this backstabbing. he is the one who taught me everything I know about swordsmanship and warfare and he taught me never to backstab" etc etc. Mean while she may also tell Sujamal not to hide from jalal but to go openly to Jalal and face him. Thus she may handover Sujamal at least to plead the case that he didn't do this backstabbing.
Meanwhile Bharmal and Sons may recapture Mewat and create a reconciliation with Jalal. I feel this Sujamal entry will definitely create suspense of possible MU for all of us ... but it will end on a positive note without MU. That's just a hunch I have.
If Sharif has done this backstabbing to create rift between Ameris and Jalal, he will checkmated by re-establishment of good ties between Jalal and Amer even though Amer family will never allow Sujamal back into the family because of his bhagawat!
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

BTW Mansi, The bodies of Jalal's relatives did come from Mewat and neither AK nor Barfuddin was anywhere near them - so that rules these two out for any trickery or foul play.

Now whether Sujamal was involved or if this was done by the other Rajvanshis who are with him - that is debatable - but going by the way Jalal has been blamed for the atrocities of his soldiers and by the magnanimity that Jalal has shown by taking the responsibility of such acts even though they did not have his sanction - by the same yardstick neither Sujamal can deny responsibility nor can Jodha argue for clemency for Sujamal - Jab Jodha nei Jalal ko isi baat ke liye itna kuch kaha hai toh how can the yardstick now change for Sujamal?!?!?!

guys he said he took help from bhils they we re a tribal community. .rajvanshis never attacked from back and never chased the enemy who ran away..this was work of sujas allies but as the captain he has to bear the brunt

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