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Posted: 11 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: history_geek



I read about the spoiler. But, i read only this much that, both will go on a trip. I did not see tax withdrawl. Perhaps i missed it.

First, right now Fatehpur Sikri is called Sikri as per historical timeline. Show is running in 1562-63 around, roughly. Sikri is renamed Fatehpur Sikri later around 1571-72. Before Sikri it was called 'Shukri'. Babur called it so. Means thankgiving.

Regarding, Tejwant fingers crossed. Though Tuhir Das was chief architect of Fatehpur Sikri but, as i said before it was constructed after Salim's birth in 1569. So, right now, no construction job, ''IF'' this Tejvant is the future Tuhir Das, coz no Fatehpur Sikri now. But may get some palace construction stuff in Agra in future. Actually, this Tuhir Das issue is not 100 pcent clear right now.! Coz all chronicles are not accessible easily. So this is a mystery right now..

Jalal may give him a title or auhda. We have to see.

And, this tax withdrawl issue is bit confusing. I have to check the timeline again. Though this happened around same time only. But before this some more events happened shayad. I AM CONFUSED, THANKS TO THE EPISODE YESTERDAY AND TO MY PROF.. CAN'T FOCUS EASILY...

I will PM you full details. Right now very busy in my work. Cant recollect everything..😊

But, one thing is sure, right now, atleast Fatehpur Sikri construction will not start.. 😊 ..Hope this cleared some thing...!

Thanks for taking the time to answer this query of mine Abhay. Hope your Prof is treating you well these days and not sitting on your neck?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: divyavm

Lovely post Mansi- I have never seen two people who can say so much without saying anything 😊

I loved how Jodha asserted her rights more as a wife now than before- I thought she may be more aloof especially after what Ruqs said- but she was asking him questions, telling him not to go, and going for a walk with him. What a transformation!

The best part was they were asking each other questions that they knew the answer to in their heart- they just did not want to admit it.

Hope Rahim returns to read the letter soon or else I think it may he enough if Jodha communicates that she is okay with their closeness.

Yes exactly Divya, you nailed it!😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: cjs369



you dont get the latest episode on youtube until it has been telecast everywhere 😭 i suppose...šŸ˜•

I have just PM-ed you a link which I use to see the episode when I am in London. It gives the episodes within 5-10 minutes of telecast starting in India and it gives you various options to see such as on Youtube or Dailyy Motion or other such sites. So you can see any one of the many links its provides. You will see it almost as early as is seen in India! See your PM.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi!
Nice analysis as usual.

We are aware that all will gather at DEK on Monday. I feel that Jalal will call Jodha to sit with him in DEK as he is going to annouce regarding her nephew. This will add Jelousy to RUK.

What you all say friends?
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi Mansi, good analysis ... but then u r best (remember award u won)šŸ˜› , so ur analysis has to be good one, right?šŸ˜‰

Oooh, I am all puffed up with pride. Someone stick a safety pin into me and let out the hot air! Fast!šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ˜†

the first scene, perfect... had we got to see what they said in spoiler, that Jo will console him, that would have meant that he will be on his knees and shading tears and Jo gets upset seeing that, and consoles him...and had they shown all this, damn, it would have been too much boring... and as far as I ll analyze Jalal, he will ask for forgiveness, but only after he steadies his own mind ...

and so day before , when we finally had them alone with each other, had i said that he won't ask for forgiveness, but his first question might be, " What do u think u were doing, when u had that poison?" i m sure, if i had written it, Mansi, u may have supported me, but few may not have liked it... many still want him to beg for her forgiveness... and nothing wrong , even i want it... but one thing... Jalal is what he was yest... fierce , proud and arrogant emperor , and he understands himself perfectly... and i think now she too does it and rather likes it more abt him...
Actually I agree with you Diksha I too ddn't want him to as for forgiveness, and neither did Jodha. Technically speaking, not belieiving Jodha's story about ben was not a crime or mistake. For example, you may tell me something that is true but I may not choose to believe it because
a. my intuition tells me there is no proof or
b. I may not be able to digest the fact or
c. I might not take it seriously enough.
So he did not commit a "mistake" by disbelieving her, so he need not apologize, as such.
What he did was an "error in judgement" which now he realises was the wrong way to have assessed the threat. These days it is called "threat perception analysis" and even these days experts get it all wrong!

and so not once in all their sweet scenes, he asked her to forgive him.. nor did she expected... had he asked her forgiveness, then she would have forgiven him, but then they couldn't have relaxed with each other , like they did... in fact , Ben being the topic of their discussion , was that both r clearing all her memories once and for all... and the person who took their relationship to nearly breaking point, is now bridging the gap btw them, after her death...

i loved that scene... Jo was clear enough to tell him her feelings...that too twice.. but as i call him, he still is tubelight, where she is concerned... he smells her jealousy, but only through her spoken words, he still can't understand the meaning behind her words..

see firstly , she says, that she would have died happily than losing him... she actually says, aapko khone se ye thik tha... what else he wants to understand where he stands in her life? what importance she gives him?

later , she straight away ask him , when he is her husband, why he can't fulfill her wish? ... he is taken aback at her question... still doesn't understand that she wants him to show his rights as a husband, not just keep asking for her permissions... she wants him to give her , her right place in his life... when he will understand her unspoken words? coz Jo will never speak them, till it will be impossible for her to bear her feelings...
See how far she has come from saying she is doing things for him from kartavya ... to now telling him "I want you to take me outside as you are my husband!" Now she's demanding like a wife and treating him as a husband who won't take offence. Previously she was acting the martyr and treating him like the King rather than a husband!


he keeps enjoying teasing her, thinking and enjoying her jealousy... but at the same time he thinks she should be the one who fills the gap in his heart/life so that no one can come btw them... but not once he thought, how could she do it, when he is the one who till date has been saying he doesn't have a heart... ok, he has accepted, that he loves her, but he still has to understand the depth of the word 'LOVE', and when he finally understand it, only then Jo will lose in him, forever and ever..

abt Ruku, and MA, i m not interested in wasting my precious words, on them . now they r getting overconfident , and r abt to make such mistakes, which will take Jalal away from them... let's wait for the day...

abt that last family get together , then Saleema and Raheem were missing... i would have liked to see Raheem cuddling Jo , that time when Jalal was there... it would have been picture perfect...
Yup, Salima and Rahim should have been there, but good thing Ruq and maham were not there!


Mansi... i read in many posts , including u , that Ruku's words hurt... even to Jo... that she can ask anything but Jalal... yes, it hurts... but then how can Jo ask for Jalal when he is only hers? coz u ask for something which is not urs, not for something which is all urs... right? and wait, one day Jalal himself will say these words to Ruku, Jo just have to be there with him, without saying a single word, claiming her rightful place...
Diksha you just spoke my heart's wishes there!



Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: banuprasa

Hi Mansi!

Nice analysis as usual.

We are aware that all will gather at DEK on Monday. I feel that Jalal will call Jodha to sit with him in DEK as he is going to annouce regarding her nephew. This will add Jelousy to RUK.

What you all say friends?

Oh my God, that could also be a super way for Jalal to redress the deed he did of calling Ben to sit by his side. Calling Jodha to sit beside him will make Jodha realise that he wants to make amends.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi, good analysis ... but then u r best (remember award u won)šŸ˜› , so ur analysis has to be good one, right?šŸ˜‰
Oooh, I am all puffed up with pride. Someone stick a safety pin into me and let out the hot air! Fast!šŸ˜†

the first scene, perfect... had we got to see what they said in spoiler, that Jo will console him, that would have meant that he will be on his knees and shading tears and Jo gets upset seeing that, and consoles him...and had they shown all this, damn, it would have been too much boring... and as far as I ll analyze Jalal, he will ask for forgiveness, but only after he steadies his own mind ...

and so day before , when we finally had them alone with each other, had i said that he won't ask for forgiveness, but his first question might be, " What do u think u were doing, when u had that poison?" i m sure, if i had written it, Mansi, u may have supported me, but few may not have liked it... many still want him to beg for her forgiveness... and nothing wrong , even i want it... but one thing... Jalal is what he was yest... fierce , proud and arrogant emperor , and he understands himself perfectly... and i think now she too does it and rather likes it more abt him...
Actually I agree with you Diksha I too ddn't want him to as for forgiveness, and neither did Jodha. Technically speaking, not belieiving Jodha's story about ben was not a crime or mistake. For example, you may tell me something that is true but I may not choose to believe it because
a. my intuition tells me there is no proof or
b. I may not be able to digest the fact or
c. I might not take it seriously enough.
So he did not commit a "mistake" by disbelieving her, so he need not apologize, as such.
What he did was an "error in judgement" which now he realises was the wrong way to have assessed the threat. These days it is called "threat perception analysis" and even these days experts get it all wrong!

right

and so not once in all their sweet scenes, he asked her to forgive him.. nor did she expected... had he asked her forgiveness, then she would have forgiven him, but then they couldn't have relaxed with each other , like they did... in fact , Ben being the topic of their discussion , was that both r clearing all her memories once and for all... and the person who took their relationship to nearly breaking point, is now bridging the gap btw them, after her death...

i loved that scene... Jo was clear enough to tell him her feelings...that too twice.. but as i call him, he still is tubelight, where she is concerned... he smells her jealousy, but only through her spoken words, he still can't understand the meaning behind her words..

see firstly , she says, that she would have died happily than losing him... she actually says, aapko khone se ye thik tha... what else he wants to understand where he stands in her life? what importance she gives him?

later , she straight away ask him , when he is her husband, why he can't fulfill her wish? ... he is taken aback at her question... still doesn't understand that she wants him to show his rights as a husband, not just keep asking for her permissions... she wants him to give her , her right place in his life... when he will understand her unspoken words? coz Jo will never speak them, till it will be impossible for her to bear her feelings...
See how far she has come from saying she is doing things for him from kartavya ... to now telling him "I want you to take me outside as you are my husband!" Now she's demanding like a wife and treating him as a husband who won't take offence. Previously she was acting the martyr and treating him like the King rather than a husband!

Lekin Jallu hai ki samaz hi nahi raha... uski Begum ko pati chahiye.. shehenshah nahi...


he keeps enjoying teasing her, thinking and enjoying her jealousy... but at the same time he thinks she should be the one who fills the gap in his heart/life so that no one can come btw them... but not once he thought, how could she do it, when he is the one who till date has been saying he doesn't have a heart... ok, he has accepted, that he loves her, but he still has to understand the depth of the word 'LOVE', and when he finally understand it, only then Jo will lose in him, forever and ever..

abt Ruku, and MA, i m not interested in wasting my precious words, on them . now they r getting overconfident , and r abt to make such mistakes, which will take Jalal away from them... let's wait for the day...

abt that last family get together , then Saleema and Raheem were missing... i would have liked to see Raheem cuddling Jo , that time when Jalal was there... it would have been picture perfect...
Yup, Salima and Rahim should have been there, but good thing Ruq and maham were not there!


Mansi... i read in many posts , including u , that Ruku's words hurt... even to Jo... that she can ask anything but Jalal... yes, it hurts... but then how can Jo ask for Jalal when he is only hers? coz u ask for something which is not urs, not for something which is all urs... right? and wait, one day Jalal himself will say these words to Ruku, Jo just have to be there with him, without saying a single word, claiming her rightful place...
Diksha you just spoke my heart's wishes there!
hearts entwinned ??šŸ˜‰

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Edited by sweet_diksha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Oh my God, that could also be a super way for Jalal to redress the deed he did of calling Ben to sit by his side. Calling Jodha to sit beside him will make Jodha realise that he wants to make amends.



perfect way to make up for her first insult by him
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12


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Thanks for taking the time to answer this query of mine Abhay. Hope your Prof is treating you well these days and not sitting on your neck?



yep. šŸ˜•
lot of work. 😔 . But can't run away. Add to this is episodes we are getting..😃
i 'll get some relief on monday. 😊.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek



yep. šŸ˜•
lot of work. 😔 . But can't run away. Add to this is episodes we are getting..😃
i 'll get some relief on monday. 😊.



Abhay, just read abt new book on Akbar... name is Ruler of the world ... author Alex Rutherford...

actually, this author has written 5 books, one on Babur, second one on Humayun, third on Akbar (i wrote earlier), forth on Jahangir and last one on Shah Jahan and Auranzeb... they say the book on Akbar is biggest one..

i just told for ur reference...

let's see when i get the time to get the copy of it and read

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