Thank God Jodha insisted upfront that she didn't write all that! - Page 13

Ruqaiyya mayb frens with jodha but she surely does sense jodha is a threat for her ...I dun think she I'll bring jodha jalal closer, if we are talking abt salima yes but ruqaiyya I doubt so

Originally posted by: deejagi

Yes, onething is that Maham has the letter and it is unlikely of Jalal to go and tell Ruqaiya that Jodha refused me. Ijjat ka sawal hi boss...If that was teh case, he would have landed in Ruqu's chamber last night than immersed himself in the bathtub.

and if at all Jalal ask for that letter from Maham, she can as well recreat a new letter which says what all she read to Jalal (she might have already kept it ready)

Originally posted by: elasingh

Are you saying mansi that Jallu will be influenced by Benaazir behenji? In that case he better stays with her and Ruku and Jo should not waste their time...

Originally posted by: elasingh

Exactly and if Ruku comes to know that Jallu landed in Jodha's room after hearing that music ,she is not going to be very pleased abt it...She can get rid of Ben behenji any time but Jodha is a legally wedded wife of Jallu...

I second this Ben behenji come n go jodha will stay put. Ruqaiyya is unpredictable 😆

Originally posted by: skanda12

he has said outright yesterday that he wants to go and discuss this issue with Ruq. OK so even if the letter is with maham and Ruq doesn't quite re-read it to him, I am sure Ruq will say "That sounds so unlike Jodha to write all that in the letter. Are you sure she must have written it? Because if she herself is saying she did not write it, we can believe in Jodha telling the truth as she has never lied regarding her feelings for you. If she has written she will admit, and if she has not written also she will tell the truth frankly as we both know!" That word from Ruq is enough for Jalal to realise that maybe Jodha is telling the truth!

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

u r always welcome to share ur views. btw can we know ur name? and ya, i always read ur posts abt real history, i really love it.

so r u saying, as per real history😆, Jalal got to know abt MA? when? and still why he forgave her?

Oh..!! The question was for me.??
I was about to sign out...

So, here i am...
Thnx for reading my posts.😊.

About ur question:

Abul Fazl has not directly blamed MA for all those miscarriages events in the biography.(as far as i remember.)
But, he has written indirectly..
In Abul Fazl's words EXCATLY , it reads as follows-->>" His majesty who gave the lady a mother's status was really broken about her role in him remaining childless.."...
(Also, Lizzy2012 has mentioned this before in my threads..)

Jalal got to know of MA real nature...
I am not clear about the INSTANT when he actually came to know about MA's deeds.
I feel after her death.
(Disclaimer>Not 100% sure...So, i will not claim the time when Akbar got to know...But still i strongly feel that it was after her death..Let's see... .Rest info is 100% correct..)

BTW, MA was more cunning than shown in show. she even indulged in political conspiracies apart from Harem misdeeds..
She once confided with Md.Baqlani, Adham's father in law, and shared some secret information in 1560.

Regarding death, i have following info.
MA died on 40th day of Adham's mourning.(probably late june 1562..or early july 1562.)
Akbar was very sad on her death.
On her death, he HIMSELF joined the funeral procession, and walked along with her corpse for some distance...

Later, Akbardid 2 things for her after her death...

1. got her and her son's joint mausoleum constructed in Delhi..today it is called Bhulbhulaiya.
Later a British officer, converted the portion where there original graves were present, into his dining hall.!!😕!!. Later it was taken over by ASI, and restored. But, MA's graves were lost.(as per records) Though, even today the board there says - graves of Adham and Maham.!!..
(Source: ASI)

2. Repaired the mosque which MA had constucted in 1561 in Delhi, in front of Purana Quila, near MAthura Road..Delhi..

About Adham's death..

Guys, do not bash me..I am writing what i read from accounts..!!...

It's mentioned that, he was jealous of Ataga Khan. Also, Munim Khan instigated Adham against Ataga..!!..So, finally on 16 may 1562, while Ataga, Munim, shahabuddin and others were in the court busy in some royal business..Adham enters in angst along with his servants/followers..
First, Adham's servant Khusham attacked at his breast on his signals. As, Ataga tried to escape,ran towards door, then Khuda Bardi twice struck him with sword. Finally, he was dead.

Then, how Adham died FINALLY u all know...
it is again a long story..though he will die on same day..

This was the info i had...
Abhay.

BTW:For history stuff, i have my threads..This 1 is for analysis...😉..

Originally posted by: skanda12

No Jalal will not be influenced by Benazir. He will however pretend so in order to make Jodha jealous, I feel!

Originally posted by: history_geek

Oh..!! The question was for me.??
I was about to sign out...

So, here i am...
Thnx for reading my posts.😊.

About ur question:

Abul Fazl has not directly blamed MA for all those miscarriages events in the biography.(as far as i remember.)
But, he has written indirectly..
In Abul Fazl's words EXCATLY , it reads as follows-->>" His majesty who gave the lady a mother's status was really broken about her role in him remaining childless.."...
(Also, Lizzy2012 has mentioned this before in my threads..)

Jalal got to know of MA real nature...
I am not clear about the INSTANT when he actually came to know about MA's deeds.
I feel after her death.
(Disclaimer>Not 100% sure...So, i will not claim the time when Akbar got to know...But still i strongly feel that it was after her death..Let's see... .Rest info is 100% correct..)

BTW, MA was more cunning than shown in show. she even indulged in political conspiracies apart from Harem misdeeds..
She once confided with Md.Baqlani, Adham's father in law, and shared some secret information in 1560.

Regarding death, i have following info.
MA died on 40th day of Adham's mourning.(probably late june 1562..or early july 1562.)
Akbar was very sad on her death.
On her death, he HIMSELF joined the funeral procession, and walked along with her corpse for some distance...

Later, Akbardid 2 things for her after her death...

1. got her and her son's joint mausoleum constructed in Delhi..today it is called Bhulbhulaiya.
Later a British officer, converted the portion where there original graves were present, into his dining hall.!!😕!!. Later it was taken over by ASI, and restored. But, MA's graves were lost.(as per records) Though, even today the board there says - graves of Adham and Maham.!!..
(Source: ASI)

2. Repaired the mosque which MA had constucted in 1561 in Delhi, in front of Purana Quila, near MAthura Road..Delhi..

About Adham's death..

Guys, do not bash me..I am writing what i read from accounts..!!...

It's mentioned that, he was jealous of Ataga Khan. Also, Munim Khan instigated Adham against Ataga..!!..So, finally on 16 may 1562, while Ataga, Munim, shahabuddin and others were in the court busy in some royal business..Adham enters in angst along with his servants/followers..
First, Adham's servant Khusham attacked at his breast on his signals. As, Ataga tried to escape,ran towards door, then Khuda Bardi twice struck him with sword. Finally, he was dead.

Then, how Adham died FINALLY u all know...
it is again a long story..though he will die on same day..

This was the info i had...
Abhay.

BTW:For history stuff, i have my threads..This 1 is for analysis...😉..