I can almost make out how this Adham track will play out.

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Today it seemed the mother of Tasneem got a hint about Adham's intentions. Once she will see something more intentional from Adham she will complain or cry to Moti and obviously Moti will tell Jodha. Something will happen in the birthday celebration I think.
And obviously Jodha being the righteous one will immediately take it up to Shahensha and will ask him to stop Adham. Again I wonder how will she stop it when the religion and society back then permitted polygamy! And age back then was also not a factor. Minors did get married in that era and often got pregnant at the age of 14 or 15.

Adham I don't think will want to marry Tasneem but will want her to just warm his bed and boost his ego. But if and when Jodha puts it across to Jalal and the emperor witness the girl's and her mom's plight and gets involved may be then Adham might propose marriage to give it a honorable turn. Jalal might be at a loss to say anything then if Adham says I have decent intentions and am helping the family of getting their daughter married off. And as can be seen today the dad is and will be a total sell out agreeing to whatever Adham says.

This guy is a total lecher! Disgusting! Anything in skirts or dupatta increases his sentiments of lust in him.

I wonder what Maham's reaction will be if Jalal gets involved. She can't simply kill Tasneem and wipe her out when she is already in the spot because of Jodha. Will she also want to him to marry Tasneem or will she oppose to it? How will she subdue this issue?

And most importantly will Javeeda be busy cooking 'semaiya' in honor of her husband's wedding or will she finally see light through the dense fog covering her brains?

My main concern is will there be again a mental and emotional strain between Jalal and Jodha because of this? Will Maham play an angle of emotional drama in front of Jalal that will move him and take him away from Jodha? I sincerely hope not. Just like other tracks when in the end Jodha and Jalal comes closer or the issues clear out will the true color of Maham be exposed to Jalal? Will Adham and his actions be exposed as well?

Will wait and watch as usual.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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You've breached an interesting issue. I am sure Tasneem's mother has gotten a whiff of Adham's intentions but you have to think, they are a poor family and Adham is already doing so much for them monetarily that she might not say anything yet. The family might even go along with the marriage because it could raise their status and in their opinion it might be good for Tasneem. But we all know Adham is a lecherous good-for-nothing so hopefully he won't ruin this girl's life. 🤢
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Originally posted by: Jaz713

You've breached an interesting issue. I am sure Tasneem's mother has gotten a whiff of Adham's intentions but you have to think, they are a poor family and Adham is already doing so much for them monetarily that she might not say anything yet. The family might even go along with the marriage because it could raise their status and in their opinion it might be good for Tasneem. But we all know Adham is a lecherous good-for-nothing so hopefully he won't ruin this girl's life. 🤢



What I feel is the father will be all too ready to agree to give his daughter to Adham be it in marriage or to simply sell her off to him but may be the mother will object.
My guess is maybe Adham will not even think of marriage initially, maybe it will be all a hoax to just get Tasneem in his bed but when things will be blown out of proportion then only he will propose marriage.
To the parents initially Adham will promise marriage but will not have any intention of doing so. Only when Jalal intervenes he will ask for Tasneem's hand in marriage.

And also I want to see whether Adham's trip to the harem earlier after Moti will be exposed or not.
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i think he will not marry,,but he just wanted her.use n throw.her mom is so obvious that he had some bad intensions..they will go to celebration and he migt reach out to her like he did to moti,mA comes running and warns him..some how he will be caught..ubt but lets wait n see😊
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Yup, I am pretty sure initially that he has no intentions of marrying her but will be pressed to do so after someone finds out that he is looking to have her. It will be interesting to see whether it comes out that Adham had entered the harem that night. I think only Ruqaiya and Maham Anga besides Moti know that he was there that night.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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See in the context of the 16th century jalal can't do anything without the finger pointing back at him. He ofcourse being judge and jury can stop adaham and no one can question him but that is hypocritical considering he is lord of polygamy. What excuse can he give that he never married for lust, wrong what is jodha then, ok he can put a political spin that his marriages are to secure his empire. Either ways we look at it is more like one rule for him and one rule for others. Coming off his bday celebrations where he is going to get loads of love and respect from his people what sort of message is he going to send. In muslim religion a man can only remarry if he has permission of his previous wives, being shehenshah he doesnt have to worry about that because he is above such a rule. Only thing jalal can do here is ask if Javeeda consents. But I have also been thinking what does Jodha really want. Polygamy must have been common in her family and she is married to one. The only reason she will be outraged is because Adaham is a creeper, what if he wasn't one then i guess given the society and time she won't object this whole thing is a non issue.
This marriage will be given consent at the celebrations. But the marriage will not go ahead. Maham Anga will put a stop to it. MA was a bandhi too she has dug herself out of the pits to be near the crown, her DIL be a bandhi what does that say about her prestige it is like back to square one. She could care too hoots about right or wrong or javeeda. We know MA craves power too, she will even throw Jalal under the bus if she has to. Could this result in a temporary truce between Jodha and MA where they both join hands to stop Adaham. Ruqu will obviously use this issue to create a rift between JJ, but we know compared to MA she is poor player not to mention Salima Begum too will only support Jodha. So Ruqu is least of our concerns. My concern how critical is this track to the overall plot. It seems so trivial and I don't get why should Jalal or Jodha should be upset with each other with where they stand on this issue. Unless this is what leads Akbar to proclaim the under age marriage ban then I see positive change.

I hope whatever they do they keep it realistic to the norms of 16th century. We can't see this thru 21 century women liberation front it just won't work and will ruin the ambience of the period they are in. The writers have already taken lots of liberties there is got to be some credibility maintained. Otherwise this is just another show with people in fancy costume.

I also wanted to add in reality Akbar went on to marry many more women after Jodha. Based on Jodha arguments to Jalal we will know where she stands if and when Jalal choses to marry again. Even though I might not like Ruqu you got to feel sad for her, and Jodha too will feel the pinch if and when more begums enter the harem. Jalal in the show is not a womanizer, but Akbar was to an extent in real life, it doesn't take away from his political greatness, but personally he could have used more restraint.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: HARRIETheAwesum

i think he will not marry,,but he just wanted her.use n throw.her mom is so obvious that he had some bad intensions..they will go to celebration and he migt reach out to her like he did to moti,mA comes running and warns him..some how he will be caught..ubt but lets wait n see😊


Well if Jodha and Jalal intervenes then in the end obviously Adham can't marry a minor but initially I too think he will show honorable intentions specially to her parents but actually in reality he will just want to get Tasneem for his own pleasure and once he is done he will want to get rid of her.
He will definitely attempt to do something during the celebration.
I feel bad for that innocent pure girl who has no idea of his lustful intentions.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yup, in the context of this time period, it really is a non-issue and Jodha, if you think about it, is only a few years older than that girl. The only objection I can see is that she is a bandhi and Maham Anga won't approve of that.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Think due to jodha ..jalal will interfere and adham may end up marrying her this Will anger him and he turns up against jodha
One enemy for jodha increases coz till now adham was though not a well wisher but was ignoring her as jalals pastime
So im aure this track will establish before maham, rulaiya and adham that jodha has a place in sahenshah's heart.
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Originally posted by: loveanime

See in the context of the 16th century jalal can't do anything without the finger pointing back at him. He ofcourse being judge and jury can stop adaham and no one can question him but that is hypocritical considering he is lord of polygamy. What excuse can he give that he never married for lust, wrong what is jodha then, ok he can put a political spin that his marriages are to secure his empire. Either ways we look at it is more like one rule for him and one rule for others. Coming off his bday celebrations where he is going to get loads of love and respect from his people what sort of message is he going to send. In muslim religion a man can only remarry if he has permission of his previous wives, being shehenshah he doesnt have to worry about that because he is above such a rule. Only thing jalal can do here is ask if Javeeda consents. But I have also been thinking what does Jodha really want. Polygamy must have been common in her family and she is married to one. The only reason she will be outraged is because Adaham is a creeper, what if he wasn't one then i guess given the society and time she won't object this whole thing is a non issue.

This marriage will be given consent at the celebrations. But the marriage will not go ahead. Maham Anga will put a stop to it. MA was a bandhi too she has dug herself out of the pits to be near the crown, her DIL be a bandhi what does that say about her prestige it is like back to square one. She could care too hoots about right or wrong or javeeda. We know MA craves power too, she will even throw Jalal under the bus if she has to. Could this result in a temporary truce between Jodha and MA where they both join hands to stop Adaham. Ruqu will obviously use this issue to create a rift between JJ, but we know compared to MA she is poor player not to mention Salima Begum too will only support Jodha. So Ruqu is least of our concerns. My concern how critical is this track to the overall plot. It seems so trivial and I don't get why should Jalal or Jodha should be upset with each other with where they stand on this issue. Unless this is what leads Akbar to proclaim the under age marriage ban then I see positive change.

I hope whatever they do they keep it realistic to the norms of 16th century. We can't see this thru 21 century women liberation front it just won't work and will ruin the ambience of the period they are in. The writers have already taken lots of liberties there is got to be some credibility maintained. Otherwise this is just another show with people in fancy costume.



This is what I wrote the other day, both the religion and the society back then permitted more than one marriage. And it was not the muslims only who remarried but even hindu rulers had many wives, not commoners but royalties or people from reputed families also had several wives or mistresses. Not only in 16th century but this system prevailed even in 19th century or beginning 20th century.

Jalal being the emperor obviously will be married several times, yes back then that is what kings did to extend their boundaries of their kingdoms if they couldn't do so through war. So I will not compare Jalal with Adham, they can't be in the same league. Just like even if something happens to Jalal no matter what Adham thinks, he won't be next in line to inherit the throne same way he can't do what Jalal does. There has to be a remarkable difference between an Emperor and a commoner. And Adham is nothing but a commoner though he is the governor or so-called brother of Jalal.

But I think the CV's will be putting Jalal and Jodha in the spot as they always do and the first step will obviously be taken by Jodha and when she will put it across to Jalal the CV's might show a difference of sentiments between them. Getting married second time is not the issue here, the issue will be marrying a minor. That is where Jodha might object to. But it has to be seen what games Maham plays here. But back in 16th century girls did get married at the age of 12 or 13 and as I wrote they got pregnant and delivered at the age of 14 or 15. So how much Jodha's objections will hold water has to be seen unless Jalal sees like she does and passes the law that no minor should be married and they should be given the freedom to enjoy their childhood.
But will this agreement be there between them right at the beginning of the problem, I don't think so. Back and forth discussions, debates and arguments will take place before the issue is solved. Or else where will be the drama in a daily show?!

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