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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Abie10


Spare it for today's episode!🤣

Abie, there is nothing you can do, I am insane! Jyoti has spent last several years trying to make me more controlled but I am not able to sudhro-fy!😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

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Abie, there is nothing you can do, I am insane! Jyoti has spent last several years trying to make me more controlled but I am not able to sudhro-fy!😆




Mansi , i believe you are in gutter land then , well for me iam watching kal ka episode again and would probably skip the second part and jump back to precap 😉...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi fabulous take 👏👏 .. loved all your points especially the one about how Bakshi bano is now like a catalyst whose discussion will bring Jalal and Jodha close 😳

Mages fabulous symbolism of the kite scene .. it only indicates how Jodha is like a drvining force in Jalal's life now ..whenever his chips r down , Jodha will b there to give him that much needed strength 👍🏼


Coming to yesterday's episode .. there r 3 very important points that comes across from the episode ..


First Ruqaiyya-Jodha talks ... The topic of discussion which later turned into argument was "What is Love " ,.. For Ruqaiyya the definition of Love is being Shehenshah Jalal's Begum-e-khaas and best childhood buddy 🤔 while for Jodha definition of love is being with your soulmate in happy as well as sad times without any expectations or tags ... So when Jodha asked a simple question to Ruqaiyya regarding her love for Jalal which will remain forever or not even if he is no more a shehenshah or he was never her childhood buddy 😉 , Ruqaiyya really had no answer and I m sure when she will b alone she will actually question herself too whether she really loves Jalal or is just sticking with Jalal as his begum-e-khaas only because of the comfort level and security she gets with Jalal due to his Shehenshah tag and the childhood connection 🤔...

I guess Jodha raised these questions to Ruqaiyya because she has noticed that everytime Ruqaiyya has this fear of loosing Jalal to some other woman , she always confesses that she has no issues if Jalal goes around sleeping with other women as long as he dont loose his heart to them which is sort of weird because if she truely loved her man then she will never really want him to go around sharing bed with other ladies either ..isn't it 🤔...So this only means that she is sticking to Jalal only to enjoy the rights of being his begum-e-khaas and best childhood buddy .. thats it ... there is no real husband-wife feelings or emotions attached here 🤔...

Mayb Jodha asked these questions to also confirm it whether Ruqaiyya really loves Jalal or just wants to own him and do the show off to other women in harem 😉 .. Now that Jodha got a hint that Ruqaiyya dont really love Jalal , so in future if she truely falls for Jalal , she wont feel guilty of coming between Ruqaiyya and Jalal's love as there is no real love between them in this case .. 🤔

Also I guess this does gives a reality chk to Ruqaiyya too and will help her realise that Jalal is just her childhood friend and she still considers him like a friend only .. there is no love involved and so even if Jalal in future falls for Jodha , she wont really mind as long as she is given the importance of begum-e-khaas in main darbar 🤔


Second comes the Jalal-Jodha and kite symbolism which Mages and Mansi hv already explained beautifully 😳... Jalal makes his attempt to fly the kite high and it does fly high.. Its similar to Jalal's success story as Shehenshah .. he too is successfully flying high as the king conquering everything .. But suddenly the kite starts going down just how Jalal is a bit down now after learning how his own sister backstabbed him ... But Jodha makes sure the kite does not fall and so she makes an attempt to make sure the kite continues to fly high and is being successful in her attempt which clearly indicates that Jodha is going to b the strong driving force in Jalal's life too whenever his chips will b down ... She will make sure Jalal's prestige never falls down 👍🏼...

That beautiful eye-talk when both looked at each other was more of a silent gesture to each other .. almost like Jodha telling Jalal that I will never let u fall and Jalal telling Jodha thanks for never letting me fall 😳.. it was a beautiful and meaningful eye-lock between both 👏👏👏



Third comes Shariffuddin's confession regarding Jodha .
. I m glad that finally the reason behind Shariff doing this fake pregnency fiasco is shown .. pheww 😆... So Shariff secretly wanted to marry Jodha and is pissed off that Jalal took the cake and instead gave him bakshi bano as gift for conquering Amer 😆... oh well the reason is quite valid in this case since I remember how Shariff was so pissed off when Jalal asked Shariff to release Jodha's brothers even though Shariff was the one who won Amer battle and even killed that Suryabhan 🤔...

But in all this poor Bakshi bano became the scapegoat .. sighh 😭😭.. I so wish Jalal realises that Bakshi bano is really not at fault .. Jodha already realised it and I feel by Jalal's birthday she will make Jalal realise the same too and this way both will come close as well in terms of developing a nice little bonding 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi fabulous take 👏👏 .. loved all your points especially the one about how Bakshi bano is now like a catalyst whose discussion will bring Jalal and Jodha close 😳

Mages fabulous symbolism of the kite scene .. it only indicates how Jodha is like a drvining force in Jalal's life now ..whenever his chips r down , Jodha will b there to give him that much needed strength 👍🏼


Coming to yesterday's episode .. there r 3 very important points that comes across from the episode ..


First Ruqaiyya-Jodha talks ... The topic of discussion which later turned into argument was "What is Love " ,.. For Ruqaiyya the definition of Love is being Shehenshah Jalal's Begum-e-khaas and best childhood buddy 🤔 while for Jodha definition of love is being with your soulmate in happy as well as sad times without any expectations or tags ... So when Jodha asked a simple question to Ruqaiyya regarding her love for Jalal which will remain forever or not even if he is no more a shehenshah or he was never her childhood buddy 😉 , Ruqaiyya really had no answer and I m sure when she will b alone she will actually question herself too whether she really loves Jalal or is just sticking with Jalal as his begum-e-khaas only because of the comfort level and security she gets with Jalal due to his Shehenshah tag and the childhood connection 🤔...

I guess Jodha raised these questions to Ruqaiyya because she has noticed that everytime Ruqaiyya has this fear of loosing Jalal to some other woman , she always confesses that she has no issues if Jalal goes around sleeping with other women as long as he dont loose his heart to them which is sort of weird because if she truely loved her man then she will never really want him to go around sharing bed with other ladies either ..isn't it 🤔...So this only means that she is sticking to Jalal only to enjoy the rights of being his begum-e-khaas and best childhood buddy .. thats it ... there is no real husband-wife feelings or emotions attached here 🤔...

Mayb Jodha asked these questions to also confirm it whether Ruqaiyya really loves Jalal or just wants to own him and do the show off to other women in harem 😉 .. Now that Jodha got a hint that Ruqaiyya dont really love Jalal , so in future if she truely falls for Jalal , she wont feel guilty of coming between Ruqaiyya and Jalal's love as there is no real love between them in this case .. 🤔

Also I guess this does gives a reality chk to Ruqaiyya too and will help her realise that Jalal is just her childhood friend and she still considers him like a friend only .. there is no love involved and so even if Jalal in future falls for Jodha , she wont really mind as long as she is given the importance of begum-e-khaas in main darbar 🤔

Brilliant point Jyoti!ClapClapClap Now we can see how that spoiler may come true that Ruq and Jodha may actually have a friendship. It requires Ruq to understand that she likes Jalal but does not really love him. And it requires Jodha to feel that if she falls for Jalal she won't be hurting Ruq. So one can be the best friend of Jalal and the other can be the love of his life, and both can feel unthreatened by the other because they are clear in their own minds what they want?

Second comes the Jalal-Jodha and kite symbolism which Mages and Mansi hv already explained beautifully 😳... Jalal makes his attempt to fly the kite high and it does fly high.. Its similar to Jalal's success story as Shehenshah .. he too is successfully flying high as the king conquering everything .. But suddenly the kite starts going down just how Jalal is a bit down now after learning how his own sister backstabbed him ... But Jodha makes sure the kite does not fall and so she makes an attempt to make sure the kite continues to fly high and is being successful in her attempt which clearly indicates that Jodha is going to b the strong driving force in Jalal's life too whenever his chips will b down ... She will make sure Jalal's prestige never falls down 👍🏼...

That beautiful eye-talk when both looked at each other was more of a silent gesture to each other .. almost like Jodha telling Jalal that I will never let u fall and Jalal telling Jodha thanks for never letting me fall 😳.. it was a beautiful and meaningful eye-lock between both 👏👏👏
Jyoti, this is a sentence that only you could have written! It is exactly your cup of tea. A scene like this gets an added meaning when the explanation is so good!EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassed


Third comes Shariffuddin's confession regarding Jodha .
. I m glad that finally the reason behind Shariff doing this fake pregnency fiasco is shown .. pheww 😆... So Shariff secretly wanted to marry Jodha and is pissed off that Jalal took the cake and instead gave him bakshi bano as gift for conquering Amer 😆... oh well the reason is quite valid in this case since I remember how Shariff was so pissed off when Jalal asked Shariff to release Jodha's brothers even though Shariff was the one who won Amer battle and even killed that Suryabhan 🤔...

But in all this poor Bakshi bano became the scapegoat .. sighh 😭😭.. I so wish Jalal realises that Bakshi bano is really not at fault .. Jodha already realised it and I feel by Jalal's birthday she will make Jalal realise the same too and this way both will come close as well in terms of developing a nice little bonding 😳
Jyoti, here there seems a small blooper by the Creatives. See in terms of timing, jalal got bakshi married to Sharif immediately after the Amer war, and well before he himself was even talking to Bharmal about marrying Jodha. So we cannot say that Sharif expected to marry Jodha but Jalal took Jodha for himself and gave Bakshi to Sharif.
Maybe even though Jalal asked Sharif to marry Bakshi, Sharif may have though he could marry Jodha as well, which he couldn't because Jalal married Jodha?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: yuzz

Great post, again😊

Thank you!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lol Mansi, then no point in stopping you since Jyo haven't succeeded after years.🤣

But really one can't help but keep repeating the precap. The look on Jodha's face clearly indicates she's falling for Jalal. Think she wants to be around him which is a sign of falling.


Jyo, when I saw Shariffudin's confessions thought of you as you've mention it before. 😳 Poor Suryaban had such a painful death due to this secret Jodha obsession.😭😭 God save Jalal.😆 But think we'll see a possessive Jalal when he knows Sharif wants his Jodha Begum!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi, Mansi,

nice analysis and good predictions. loved the way u have put it in 4 segments so correctly. the precap seems to be combines with HB ordering for Jalal's b'day preperations and an extention of today's AkDha scene.

First on Adham-Javeda-MA issue. coz the spoiler i have read, clearly says that Adham declares openly that he wants to marry Tasneem, and this declaration comes in the Jashna of Jalal's B'day. Jodha publicly opposes but seems can't do anything, neither can Jalal even if he doesn't like Adham marrying a kid. so i think this marriage will take place with MA taking Adham's side, and Jalal watching helplessly, for the moment, which may further trigger him to take action against child-marriage. coz dear Jodha begum will surely keep him bashing till he takes a decision that she will like. else he will again have to face her 'ghrina'. 😉

I m not sure but i think later he has made the law that in his kingdom , at the time of marriage, the boy should not be below 18 and a girl should not be below 15 years. I m not sure abt this, but i think i read it somewhere.

Anyway, i think when Jodha will raise the issue, Jalal will atleast understand her feelings and will try to support her but may be those maulavis will again play their religion card , which will make him helpless. I m sure this time Jodha will be there to understand his position and supports him. Let's see.

abt , Shareef, my prediction was right that he has the evil eye for Jodha. and i think Jodha knows it. while surya was killed, Jodha has dreamt of Shareef manhandling her. and if Jalal too comes to know abt Shareef's thoughts , then it will be fun to watch. btw how BB will react if she comes to know abt Shareef wanting Jodha for himself? will she still try to take his side, or will she let Akdha punish Shareef harshly?

one thread still remaining. If due to constant pressing by Jodha, Jalal forgives BB, then will she tell Jalal abt the Dhawalgarh fort real issue? coz even after so much happenings in his life, he still doesn't seem to remember that Jodha has tried to show him Shareef's real face long time back, that Shareef is a back-stabber. he is just thinking abt current issues. I m waiting to see when he will link all the past issues and will understand the whole truth.

I know , some will ask that he has said he trusts Jodha now, but is this trust limited that she hasn't slept with anyone till date or he trusts her in everything that has happened to them till date. This needs to be answered, else it will always haunt their relationship.

I loved the way Jodha is getting more and more confident with everybody, be it Ruku or Jalal. The way she told Ruku yest, that she very well knows where she stands with Jalal, and it's Ruku and not her who should think of the true relationship with Jalal was just superb. This confidence of hers will surely make Ruku, do something that will push Jalal more away from her. (i m not saying close to Jodha. that's totally diff thing). Ruku's overconfidence has now started shaking and it was quite clear , the girl is trying her best to keep her head high though she knows , she is trying to hold on to something that was never hers.

on the other hand, Jalal's look after Jodha's, 'I M ur Begum and don't need any reason to talk to u', was something to watch for. For a sec, he was taken aback that she has actually said that , thinking is she finally accepting our relationship, then he was happy that she is moving forward to him, and still trying to keep his balance not to taunt her right at that moment. Old Jalal would have surely retorted , like " oh, so u remember , u r my begum!". I loved his expressions there. bit surprised, bit happy, bit amused and bit satisfied.

At least he was meeting her eyes. good to watch. but the moment she mentions BB , again his gaze is diverted. he is still ashamed for his sis's crime. and Jodha understands him. and so when for second time she helps Raheem balance the kite, her calm gaze meets to Jalal's troubled one, like " U have to maintain proper balance btw A King and a family man. both should not overcome other else u urself will be the loser. and while shehenshah can't be the loser, if a family man in him loses that will ultimately affect him as a King who can lose trust and respect from his own as well as from his subjects, as they will later think of him as merciless." and Jalal has no answer for this at that moment.

abt the precap, he is not only physically aware of her touch , but i think he is even aware that Jodha is on the way to break the walls, he has built around his heart so no one can break it. and that why he is trying to push her away saying she should not interfere in his personal matters. He knows that if she continues this way, soon she will find out and make him accept that he indeed has a very good, soft and loving heart and he too has his own fears buried deep in it. And he simply doesn't want her to unvail the man behind the mask.

But poor boy, by now he should know, if Jodha has decided that she wants something then no one can stop her. not even u Shehenshah. and why not? just yest she has declared on ur face, " She is ur begum". and unknowingly even to herself this Begum has aimed at ur heart , so be ready to lose to her...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Abie10

Lol Mansi, then no point in stopping you since Jyo haven't succeeded after years.🤣

But really one can't help but keep repeating the precap. The look on Jodha's face clearly indicates she's falling for Jalal. Think she wants to be around him which is a sign of falling.


Jyo, when I saw Shariffudin's confessions thought of you as you've mention it before. 😳 Poor Suryaban had such a painful death due to this secret Jodha obsession.😭😭 God save Jalal.😆 But think we'll see a possessive Jalal when he knows Sharif wants his Jodha Begum!



I dont think this thing will ever come out in open that Sharif lusts for Jodha
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I dont think this thing will ever come out in open that Sharif lusts for Jodha


Really??😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I would love to see Jalal's expression when he comes to know about this but doubt that this thing will ever come out in open

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