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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ..Tahniat..

I think sometimes they come here cauz we sometimes get what we want in the show


Hope they come more often.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am thrilled with the direction of progress of Jodha-Jalal love story

I like it immensely that the story so far has not shown those typical soapy ways that the hero and heroine fall in love. I am happy that while Jodha and Jalal may be remotely attracted to each other, thus also causing them to be antagonistic (as they are fighting feelings deep inside themselves as well), the love story has not become one of inane eyelocks, slip-and-catch or silly hand-holdings and finger-brushings.

I am glad that so far the Creativves have shown an interest in building the Jodha-Jalal friendship before making them objects of each other's love.

I want them to grow into love slowly, sweetly, and via the friendship route. I want them to become buddies first before lovers. I want them to find their wavelengths attuned, their thoughts aligned and their personalities pleasing to each other. I want words like "ghrina" and "guroor" to go away. I want them both to feel that in all the world's rocky places, there is one person they can count on the most (and that is the other). I want them to value each other's advice, and to seek each other out in tough situations. I want them to "gravitate" towards each other first before they think of going to others to share their thoughts, problems or even happy feelings!


At the same time I do not want them to be totally devoid of all signs of "inner tension". There have got to be signals of some "sexual tension" between them even as their friendship builds. Without this kind of sexual tension, relationships, especially on-screen, can seem very bland to watch. I do not want Jodha-Jalal to have the kind of friendship that Jalal-Ruq have, for instance, where there is every sign of bonding and friendship and mutual understanding and Ruq is the "go-to" person for Jalal, but absolutely no sign of any sexual attraction exists.

The Jalal-Ruq bonding, no matter how strong it is over years, lacks "sizzle" and "chemistry". At its best it looks like a "topical political alliance for the current management of events" and at its worst it looks like "history being sustained for the sake of history ". To artificially portray "chemistry" with eyelocks is not the way, but to show "no chemistry at all" is also not the way. And "chemistry" is not just about "friction" and "dialogue delivery" and "repartee" either. Chemistry is about subtleties, I suppose, and we need "less of the said more of the unsaid" in the Jodha and Jalal relationship. Let them both talk less and do more.

I will not presume to teach the Creatives how to bring about a feel of sexual tension between Jodha-Jalal without using the cliched approaches, but I do want to see much more thought go into how their relationship is hereafter portrayed. We have seen enough of them individually, now its time to start seeing them together: how they relate and how they bring out the facets of each other as a team.

Mansi loved ur post 👍🏼...
But the blue want... personally i will disagree with frenship then love route... I prefer love route straight... Not that i watch many hindi shows (i mostly watch other languages drama) but i feel the idea of frenship then converting into Love , the phase of it is very boring... This is just my view.. dun throw anything...😆
I prefer love route straight the.. getting attraracted to each other... n falling in love... Take the example the JA movie, i dun think there was time to build frenship... But in the movie it simple the male lead waiting for female lead to accept their r/ship... somehow they started liking each other n then love story started with both realising ... Taking another example of my fav show of an serial, when wind blows rabba ve starts n their journey gets connected everytime ... I like this kind of romance... Just my view... dunno abt you guys...😳
Edited by riyya6 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

I am thrilled with the direction of progress of Jodha-Jalal love story

I like it immensely that the story so far has not shown those typical soapy ways that the hero and heroine fall in love. I am happy that while Jodha and Jalal may be remotely attracted to each other, thus also causing them to be antagonistic (as they are fighting feelings deep inside themselves as well), the love story has not become one of inane eyelocks, slip-and-catch or silly hand-holdings and finger-brushings.

I am glad that so far the Creativves have shown an interest in building the Jodha-Jalal friendship before making them objects of each other's love.

I want them to grow into love slowly, sweetly, and via the friendship route. I want them to become buddies first before lovers. I want them to find their wavelengths attuned, their thoughts aligned and their personalities pleasing to each other. I want words like "ghrina" and "guroor" to go away. I want them both to feel that in all the world's rocky places, there is one person they can count on the most (and that is the other). I want them to value each other's advice, and to seek each other out in tough situations. I want them to "gravitate" towards each other first before they think of going to others to share their thoughts, problems or even happy feelings!


At the same time I do not want them to be totally devoid of all signs of "inner tension". There have got to be signals of some "sexual tension" between them even as their friendship builds. Without this kind of sexual tension, relationships, especially on-screen, can seem very bland to watch. I do not want Jodha-Jalal to have the kind of friendship that Jalal-Ruq have, for instance, where there is every sign of bonding and friendship and mutual understanding and Ruq is the "go-to" person for Jalal, but absolutely no sign of any sexual attraction exists.

The Jalal-Ruq bonding, no matter how strong it is over years, lacks "sizzle" and "chemistry". At its best it looks like a "topical political alliance for the current management of events" and at its worst it looks like "history being sustained for the sake of history ". To artificially portray "chemistry" with eyelocks is not the way, but to show "no chemistry at all" is also not the way. And "chemistry" is not just about "friction" and "dialogue delivery" and "repartee" either. Chemistry is about subtleties, I suppose, and we need "less of the said more of the unsaid" in the Jodha and Jalal relationship. Let them both talk less and do more.

I will not presume to teach the Creatives how to bring about a feel of sexual tension between Jodha-Jalal without using the cliched approaches, but I do want to see much more thought go into how their relationship is hereafter portrayed. We have seen enough of them individually, now its time to start seeing them together: how they relate and how they bring out the facets of each other as a team.

Mansi loved ur post 👍🏼...
But the blue want... personally i will disagree with frenship then love route... I prefer love route straight... Not that i watch many hindi shows (i mostly watch other languages drama) but i feel the idea of frenship then converting into Love , the phase of it is very boring... This is just my view.. dun throw anything...😆
I prefer love route straight the.. getting attraracted to each other... n falling in love... Take the example the JA movie, i dun think there was time to build frenship... But in the movie it simple the male lead waiting for female lead to accept their r/ship... somehow they started liking each other n then love story started with both realising ... Taking another example of my fav show of an serial, when wind blows rabba ve starts n their journey gets connected everytime ... I like this kind of romance... Just my view... dunno abt you guys...😳

Okay Riyya, for your sake, as as one of your best friends, I hope Mohan Pyaare will make their love blossom on a high-speed mode.
May he scratch and bite Jalal in various interesting body parts, and may Jodha waste lots of time attending to each wound!
If that does not start their "love" I am not sure how I can help you!🤔
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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so atlast we got to see some witty moves of jalal, no doubt with that mass walk out not only the serial but also we,the viewers suffered a lot..7-10 episodes were a sore to eyes, and may be that's why the war scene was not also upto the mark, due to lack of people..

but I fear if the script writer has been changed then the story would be effected in long run.. So ekta may bring back those script writer in future i hope..

don't know how maham anga will present the hamsakal story to jalal to convince him..let's see.:-)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi003

so atlast we got to see some witty moves of jalal, no doubt with that mass walk out not only the serial but also we,the viewers suffered a lot..7-10 episodes were a sore to eyes, and may be that's why the war scene was not also upto the mark, due to lack of people..

but I fear if the script writer has been changed then the story would be effected in long run.. So ekta may bring back those script writer in future i hope..

don't know how maham anga will present the hamsakal story to jalal to convince him..let's see.:-)

Yes, Pallavi, the new scriptwriter better be good!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Unfortunately these Hindi serials never send off the villains for good! Especially they never send off these female villains. Even the male villains are often sent off on teerth-yatras but the female villains will remain behind so that the subtle saas-bahu layer of the story is kept intact!
Unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately ... its a Hindi serial!


The painted eyes alone might not suffice as evidence
Rahim's words alone might not suffice as evidence
Jodha's points alone might not suffice as evidence
However when one combines all of the above - it becomes a much stronger case of co-incidences against MA
You are right in that Jalal will NEVER be able to trust MA like before again... 😊

I agree...ASHWINI is here to stay at least for another 8-10 months of tracks...My guess is that either MA will decide to go off to Mecca after the insinuations (even though she manages to prove her somewhat innocent!) or since Jalal is not able to completely trust/distrust her, he'll have her sent off to Mecca for a while...
We realize that the hunting scenario (which should last at least a few episodes), tiger track and then some lighter episodes between J and J are to follow - the last episode being the first glimpse of something like this...
During this time MA's absence at the palace makes more sense to me...just as the trust between J and J is growing stronger and there is greater sexual tension so as to speak - MA returns and WHAM...sows the seeds for her next plot...after all, she'll need to avenge her insult against Jodha!


Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


The painted eyes alone might not suffice as evidence
Rahim's words alone might not suffice as evidence
Jodha's points alone might not suffice as evidence
However when one combines all of the above - it becomes a much stronger case of co-incidences against MA
You are right in that Jalal will NEVER be able to trust MA like before again... 😊

I agree...ASHWINI is here to stay at least for another 8-10 months of tracks...My guess is that either MA will decide to go off to Mecca after the insinuations (even though she manages to prove her somewhat innocent!) or since Jalal is not able to completely trust/distrust her, he'll have her sent off to Mecca for a while...
We realize that the hunting scenario (which should last at least a few episodes), tiger track and then some lighter episodes between J and J are to follow - the last episode being the first glimpse of something like this...
During this time MA's absence at the palace makes more sense to me...just as the trust between J and J is growing stronger and there is greater sexual tension so as to speak - MA returns and WHAM...sows the seeds for her next plot...after all, she'll need to avenge her insult against Jodha!


Lashy, I doubt if Maham will go to Mecca! She will go nowhere. She will give this humshakal excuse to Jalal, and even though he now distrusts her he will be forced to accept the humshakal theory since the remaining proofs are not adequate enough.
Maham will also know that Jalal knows about her chaal and is watching her. But to restore herself in his highest esteem again, she may try to make Jodha look small at every opportunity so that she can look bigger and better.
This trick may work with reverse effect for Maham, because every time she tries to bring Jodha down or bring herself up the Hand of Fate may make Jodha look better and better to Jalal.
We cannot count on evidence, Jalal, or any of the people there to set Maham to rights - but we can surely count on the Hand of Fate!😛🥳
Edited by skanda12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Damn! I've been desperately trying from yesterday to have her sent off to Mecca but neither you nor Shyamala Aunty seems to want to send her yet...😆
I wanted an intermittent period of shaanti for J-J par shaayad unki naseeb mein woh likhi hi nahin hai...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

Damn! I've been desperately trying from yesterday to have her sent off to Mecca but neither you nor Shyamala Aunty seems to want to send her yet...😆

I wanted an intermittent period of shaanti for J-J par shaayad unki naseeb mein woh likhi hi nahin hai...

Lekin, Lashy, Jodha ki kismet mein woh "Marium Uz Zamani" ke audha zaroor likha hai, aur usse Maham ko ek "demotion" zaroor milne walla hai.
Mecca nahi toh sahi, demotion ke trip par woh jaane wali hai!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

2. I am still afraid that Maham will play the humshakal card

3. I am thrilled with the direction of progress of Jodha-Jalal love story

Yes, maham will for sure bring in the Humshakal issue in front of the court (Diwane-khas) and might prove that it is the Humshakal who bought the Dibbi & also whom Rahim saw mixing. My gut feeling is that or teh outer world Jalal will accept this from her and will ask for forgiveness for even questioning her integrity in open. He might even ask Jodha to seek forgivenss for Doubting Maham on tis henious crime. Jodha is Jodha who will understand his unsaid signal and might seek an apology from maham and Ruqu will be the confused soul all along this. But Shakal or Humshakal, MA can't fool Jalal on her eyes (No one can be better artist than that lady who drew MA's eyes as she was the one who drew Jodha's picture when Jalal narrated the details to her (prior to their marraige and after finishing the same, she had exclaimed that it was indeed the picture of Jodha, Princess of Amer) as he had grown up seeing those eyes from his childhood and had seen the love and kindness in those eyes for him and shrewdness for others. May be he let the matter dropped there as he might not even want the whole world to know about his Badi Ammi, the importnt piller in Mugal Sultanite is the culprit. But for sure he knows the actual culprit and will keep his EGLE Eye watch on her all movements.
OR if we are lucky, she might yet again play the same music of send me Mecca, as I could not save your child (I could not realize that people could use my identity to kill your varis etc) and with his sweet, suger coated talk Jalal should agree for that proposal by claiming I don't want to be away from you Badi Ammi but alas your mental stress is too much at moment, so I will not stop you now from visiting Mecca. I will oder for all the arrangements for your travel, may be if you like, you can take Adham Khan and his wife alongwith you and order his court people to make immdiate arrangements for her pack up. After that we will have some time free from MA till such time, it is the WAR between Shahbuddin & Jalal.
As a gesture of thanks to Jodha (for forcing him to see the real culprit), he might try to patch up Jodha and Rahim's relationship and feel taht he may be the one who has sent Rahim to Jodha. In the precap we saw rahim in teh same room. May be he would have coxed Rahim in tellingbhim why he called his choti ammi as buri and what did she do. he might promise that eh will not punish him for that and Rahim would have opened upand let out the CAT.
Yes even i feel both Jodha and Jalal will start with platonic relationship. They will start talking to each other more civilized than pouncing on each other the moment they open their mouth. Rahim might play cupid here. From civility to friendship and then to love. I mean the realisation should take some time atleast, and later to express their feelings for each other openly shall have some sweet stupid moments.
Yes caring for each other should start with Tiger incident. Iam okey with both options "eitehr Jodha saving Jalal or Jalal saving Jodha" but I would love to have Jodha putting herself in front to save Jalal's life. Atleast her archery & sword fight lessons should have some reson to bring them close.
Jaya

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