Jodha Akbar 62: Dawn in the offing?

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Folks,

For once, I am not sure what to say about this episode. Basically, I liked it, for it did move things forward somewhat, even if it seemed to go further into the maze of the dature ka ark, and most of the characters were true to type, even in their extreme reactions.

There were also illuminating little vignettes that revealed as much as the big scenes.

Hamida Banu taking balayi of Jalal, with by now overt and accepted maternal affection; she and Jalal have come a long way from that bitter exchange in his camp in episode 2.

Mahaam Anga's face lighting up when she sees Jalal riding in, and wrinkling in worry when Hamida Banu spots his wound; she really loves her erstwhile nursling. Ruqaiya's face reacting identically, while Salima's is bland and almost unconcerned.

Bhagwan Das trying to soften the blow of Ratan Singh's death for Jodha by insisting that he was not murdered but died in battle, whereas the truth is that he was executed after he had been disarmed.

The sudden agony in Ruqaiya's eyes when she is told that the dibbi was found in Salima's room; she feels sick to the pit of her stomach at what she sees as betrayal of the worst kind by a sister for whom she had genuine affection.

Jodha grabbing Ruqaiya's bleeding hand and nursing it between her own in instinctive compassion.

Now for the big, grandstanding scenes.

Jalal-Jodha 1: Contrary to most others in the forum, I was neither shocked nor surprised by his swinging his shamsheer at Jodha when she confessed, and that too with such vehemence and not the slightest indication of repentance. It was almost a given that he would do that; Bairam Khan has fixed Jala's default setting at sar kalam karna when faced with such overt and unquestioned guilt in a gunaah-e-azeem,and Jalal would have automatically reverted to that in such a crunch situation.

It would have been the same with most other medieval rulers, not just Jalal, with his very short fuse.

Jodha knows that. Which is why, facing the Gordian knot of being unable to live up to the prescriptions of Rajput maryada towards her wedded husband, whom she now hates with more passion than ever before - Paridhi was very convincing when Jodha went into that angry spiel about Jalal to her brothers - and the compulsion of having to continue to live indefinitely as his wife, she tries to imitate Alexander the Great.

Except, of course, that she wants to trick Jalal into cutting this Gordian knot for her by cutting off her head. Her assessment is accurate, for Jalal, having apparently taken for granted, post Sujanpur, that Jodha too was innocent, must have been, first, shellshocked by her grand confession, and then possessed by blind rage. I for one am not at all sensitive to such manufactured shocks.

The curious thing here was that the one Ruqaiya stopped was his second swipe at Jodha (he swings it once first and seems to miss completely!) And the other curious thing was that Jalal was not at all bothered about Ruqaiya's hand, which must have been badly cut, but, as noted above, Jodha was.

The last second saving of Jodha's life is typical OTT drama, like the nuclear bomb in The Peacemaker being defused at 11:59:59 (I did not mind that, as the scientist managing to save the world there was a woman). There would have been infinitely richer dramatic possibilities is he had cut off her head and then found out that she was innocent, but it is no use hoping for such riches, given that despite her 31 second daily disclaimer, not even Ekta can go so far in remixing history.

Jalal-Jodha 2: This was one peach of a scene. In the context of their relationship, this is going to be the turning point.

I loved it that Jodha made no move to get up when he came up, and instead glowered resentfully up at him. I also loved it that instead of attempting any kind of apology, Jalal launched into a farcical broadside against her for lying to the Shahenshah-e-Hind. Absolutely typical of the alpha male type!

Also to be noted is that Jodha's response is not a crisp Hamein aapke saath apna poora jeevan vyateet karna asahya ho gaya tha, aur ham apne parivaar ko bhi aapse bachana chahte the. Hamne kuch bhi anuchit nahin kiya. Hamaara jeevan hai, aur hamein poora adhikaar hai ki hum jiyein ya marein. Which is what one would have expected of her after all the build up in the scene with her brothers.

Instead, she launches into a long, typical complaining patni-style monologue, recounting every instance of khunnas against her patidev right since their marriage. What is one to make of this, especially given that she supposedly hates him with a white hot passion?

It is even more interesting that Jodha mentions only the nazarband as disgraceful behavior in a pati towards his patni. Not only does she cling to the relationship she wanted to desperately to escape, but she seems to have forgotten about the infinitely worse zinda jalana!

It is not just, as so many here would have it - at times by bending and stretching the facts to fit this charming theory - that Jalal is, in his heart of hearts, and unknown to himself, obsessed with Jodha. It is evident from the above that it is ditto for Jodha as well. Real hatred, unmixed with anything else, leads to dry-eyed rage, not to angry tears and a litany of accusations.

Unlike Kamal, I would not blame Jodha demanding the patni ka darja on a non-reciprocal basis, and carefully avoiding any mention of all the times when she insulted Jalal, like the shaadi ka joda burning. Why not, if you can get it? A little hypocrisy is a useful trait.

By scene end, Jalal was stumped for an answer, and no wonder.

As I wrote in an earlier post, he had, at one point, especially after Jodha's poem, begun to believe that the Amer ki shehzaadi was special, that even if she still hated him, she was, unlike all the others around him, unselfish and undemanding, and capable of pure affection, as towards his unborn child. In short, in a class apart.

His furious rage when he was confronted with what seemed to be her guilt was directly proportional to the strength of this earlier conviction. He was, in his own zehen, exposed as a soft fool, who had succumbed to a hitherto unknown weakness and had placed his trust in a devious murderess. His savage desire to hurt her as much as he could was not just for killing his child but for having, as he saw it, made a complete fool of him by trampling on the innermost recesses of his being, where no one else had ever been allowed entry.

Jalal will now have to reboot himself inside out, and as his sense of justice is very strong, also make public amends for the public accusations he had made against the Amer quintet. Let us see what he comes up with next. It will be fascinating to see both what he does in the open court, and if he can climb down and apologise to Jodha at least in private, without making a doormat of himself.

Ruqaiya: She came across as intelligent, fair-minded, logical and conscientious. Something of the old Ruqaiya, if not the whole. I was duly grateful for that, as also for the genuine sorrow, as distinct from anger, that she feels at what seems like a complete negation of her hitherto affectionate relationship with her cousin sister. When she sets out the case against Salima, it is with the coherent logic of a competent and dispassionate public prosecutor, there is no overt rage, and there is even a measure of reluctant understanding of where Salima could be coming from.

Except of course that they are going wrong because neither Ruqaiya nor Jalal has any understanding of simple, uncomplicated, undemanding goodness of heart, neither in Salima nor in Jodha. Nor do they seem to even envisage the possibility of evidence being planted on an innocent person. That too in that rabbit warren of a harem. In their place, I would have seen the dibbi being found in Salima's rooms as automatic proof of her innocence, not her guilt!

The precap was very interesting. I had initially felt that the woman on the bed was not Salima Sultan, and Jalal had, once he has finished his session with Jodha, finally bestirred his grey cells and found out that the dibbi was planted in Salima's room by the real culprit, and that he was now going to get proof of that by making her eat what she knows is dature ka ark, which she would naturally refuse under some pretext of the other, for a large dose can be lethal even for an adult.

But now I am not so sure, and then again, I am never any good at interpreting odd camera angles. Perhaps it is Salima after all, though she should normally have been quite startled at her cousin-cum-husband suddenly acting lovey dovey and very un-Jalal-like. Instead, she seems quite normal.

But at least Jalal's grey cells seem to have come out of the deep freeze they have been in of late, for he is not rushing to kalamofy Salima's head with his shamsheer, but is actually trying to check things out in a slick and devious manner. Atta boy!

The title of this post is a triumph of hope of over expectation (with apologies to Dr.Samuel Johnson for pinching his definition of a second marriage😉). Whether it is to be hope fulfilled or hope belied remains to be seen.

I am by now fed up of this endless exercise. I almost wish some disgruntled harem inmate would poison the whole lot: Jalal, Jodha., Ruqaiya, Mahaam, Adham, the works, all except Rahim. It is stupid and demeaning, this endless ranting and raving, and the consequent waste of good actors. Soon, they will forget how to perform well.

Already, Rajat scrunches up his nose, making it look like a misshapen potato, at the drop of a hat, as his Jalal narrows his eyes into a manic glare, before charging off like the Energiser bunny, and invariably in the wrong direction. One of these days, as they say in the fairy tales, the wind will change while he is doing it and his face will be frozen in that expression. A fate too horrible to contemplate, and not just for him!😉

Shyamala B.Cowsik


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow today m first to post..😃
Lovely analysis aunty..was waiting fr ir post..
This episode was much better than previous one and there were so many things happening..
I loved hw bagwan das tld jodha that ratan singh was nt murdered he was killed n the war..I dnt kw y jodha s nt understanding tat ratan singh was nt a good suitor fr her sister.. I kw she s worried fr her sis bt a person who actually supports daakus cn never b a good choice..she shud b happy her sis got saved frm such a person..
Finally I am so happy that ruqs was shown as true empress .. inspite f hating jodha she did save her.. and when ruqs got hurt jodha tried to attend to her wound bt I was surprised y did jalal nt realise it? 😕
Nw m really sad tat salima will face jalals wrath..
I hope the culprit s found soon.. I didnt understand y ruqs was telling salima may want rahim to becum waris ..I think rahim was nt salimas son nyway..
I hope jodha ll fight fr salima .. she always fights wn other ppl r in trouble. Bt doesnt do it fr herself..atleast will able to see the old jodha back..
I thot jodha wud tel tat she lied fr her family sake bt she surprised me by saying its abt a patnis insult n all.. 😆 i thot she s nt expecting nything frm this relation..😆 I am eager to kw wat answer jalal ll giv her..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Very Descriptive
You very well explained the Jalal about to Chop off Jodha's Head part. I was shocked too. And the first time he swung, It was that who took out the Sword from a certain ngle it also looked like a swung to chop off.
And I really loved the part when Ruquiya stops the shamsheer. And the one where Jodha tries to nurse her wounded Palm and Ruquiya gets the sense that it is Jodha "Move Away!"
But I must say, the Blow had much force to chop Ruquiya's hand, as Jalal launched it with such force, I wonder how her hand was saved, I am concerned now even If I don't like or know Ruquiya, tha's how I am.
Jalal wasn't concerned for Ruquiya, I guess as he was raged but even after that he didn't seem to worry. Jodha was, so nice of her. Had I been in her place, I would be concerned too even if I don't like her.
I am really waiting for Ruquiya-Jodha bonding, It would be a treat for me.
And yes she is far more witty and intelligent than Jalal, I hope jodha changes him soon.
And I don't think Salima did that, She is being framed. And seeing the Dhansu promo I made that conclusion too, that Jalal is offering the Kesar, If she will be guilty she will know it and will not eat or eat a little and if not she will gulp it down.
I think that is Salima only, but I will be more than Happy is she is not and the real culprit is there. What was the point of showing from odd angle??
News of Maham Anga being the culprit is floating on the Forum, what do you think? Is she the one? and framing Salima??
Ohh I see I am the second to post, Just one second miss or I would have made it to Ist position.
Edited by ApurvaLovesARVI - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Beautiful aunty😃

I was neither shocked nor surprised by his swinging his shamsheer at Jodha when she confessed, and that too with such vehemence and not the slightest indication of repentance. Jalal would have automatically reverted to that in such a crunch situation. It would have been the same with most other medieval rulers, not just Jalal, with his very short fuse.

Precisely what I've been trying to say😊

The other curious thing was that Jalal was not at all bothered about Ruqaiya's hand, which must have been badly cut, but, as noted above, Jodha was.

This thought struck me too...but I'm yet to witness a 'tender' Jalaal if you know what I mean (Except maybe when he comforts his sister)...he wailed to MA after the MC, but he was less empathetic in the presence of Ruqaiyya...he appeared very matter-of-fact about his mother's ill-health... he never seemed to even spare a thought for having hurt Jodha after their first evening together either...

I loved it that Jodha made no move to get up when he came up, and instead glowered resentfully up at him. I also loved it that instead of attempting any kind of apology, Jalal launched into a farcical broadside against her for lying to the Shahenshah-e-Hind. Absolutely typical of the alpha male type!

👏

She launches into a long, typical complaining patni-style monologue, recounting every instance of khunnas against her patidev right since their marriage. What is one to make of this, especially given that she supposedly hates him with a white hot passion?

true, that's what I thought too...she wanted to be left alone all the while... but yesterday it nearly appeared like she was complaining about his lack of positive attention towards her..😆

(Gals, please don't jump at me... I am only kidding here)

It is even more interesting that Jodha mentions only the nazarband as disgraceful behavior in a pati towards his patni. Not only does she cling to the relationship she wanted to desperately to escape, but she seems to have forgotten about the infinitely worse zinda jalana!

Nazarband - slow humiliation, Zinda jalaana -instant death!

As I wrote in an earlier post, he had, at one point, especially after Jodha's poem, begun to believe that the Amer ki shehzaadi was special, that even if she still hated him, she was, unlike all the others around him, unselfish and undemanding, and capable of pure affection, as towards his unborn child. In short, in a class apart. His furious rage when he was confronted with what seemed to be her guilt was directly proportional to the strength of this earlier conviction. He was, in his own zehen, exposed as a soft fool, who had succumbed to a hitherto unknown weakness and had placed his trust in a devious murderess. His savage desire to hurt her as much as he could was not just for killing his child but for having, as he saw it, made a complete fool of him by trampling on the innermost recesses of his being, where no one else had ever been allowed entry.


Neither Ruqaiya nor Jalal has any understanding of simple, uncomplicated, undemanding goodness of heart, neither in Salima nor in Jodha. Nor do they seem to even envisage the possibility of evidence being planted on an innocent person. That too in that rabbit warren of a harem. In their place, I would have seen the dibbi being found in Salima's rooms as automatic proof of her innocence, not her guilt!

Yes...well said...😊 everyone there is dealing with either personal loss or acting in fear...no one's thinking too rationally...

The title of this post is a triumph of hope of over expectation


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for the wonderful post Aunty!
Rukayya was the unlikely hero yesterday. The lady is smart... she knows how to talk to Jalal..She shows him the proof first..

I think the blow was enough to cut rukkaya's hand into two Jalal should have been slightly concerned atleast.. but I wonder why the blood was on Jalal's face and not on Jodha's face.. her face was much much closer to rukayya's hand.. when she stopped it.

and the lady in the precap is Salima..

I have no idea what Jalal is trying to do..
Edited by Autumn_Rose - 11 years ago
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Great post as always, Aunty.

Your thoughts on the first Jodha-Jalal scene were comforting, because I did have some reservations about Jalal almost loping off Jodha's head. He really does have a very long road to redemption! Hopefully it will be an enjoyable one for us viewers.

Also, its really good that Jalal has finally regrown his brain with regards to finding the truth about the murder of his unborn child.😊

As for Jodha, what a revelation the last scene was!! Totally unexpected.😃


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Shyamala:
By now it would seem to be a set thing for me to whine and ask "why" and for you to bring reason to things ... but when you yourself write this, I am a basket case!

The title of this post is a triumph of hope of over expectation (with apologies to Dr.Samuel Johnson for pinching his definition of a second marriage😉). Whether it is to be hope fulfilled or hope belied remains to be seen.

I am by now fed up of this endless exercise. I almost wish some disgruntled harem inmate would poison the whole lot: Jalal, Jodha., Ruqaiya, Mahaam, Adham, the works, all except Rahim. It is stupid and demeaning, this endless ranting and raving, and the consequent waste of good actors. Soon, they will forget how to perform well.

Already, Rajat scrunches up his nose, making it look like a misshapen potato, at the drop of a hat, as his Jalal narrows his eyes into a manic glare, before charging off like the Energiser bunny, and invariably in the wrong direction. One of these days, as they say in the fairy tales, the wind will change while he is doing it and his face will be frozen in that expression. A fate too horrible to contemplate, and not just for him!😉

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Originally posted by: sashashyam

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Jalal-Jodha 1: Contrary to most others in the forum, I was neither shocked nor surprised by his swinging his shamsheer at Jodha when she confessed, and that too with such vehemence and not the slightest indication of repentance.

It would have been the same with most other medieval rulers, not just Jalal, with his very short fuse.

Yup, not surprised at all...she comes...looks him in the eye and confesses 'yup...I killed your unborn child..go ahead and kill me..' she got married to jalal to save brothers and amer...and, things were headed in the opposite direction...better to trade one life to save hundreds (nothing could have saved amer from shehensha's wrath...).

Jalal-Jodha 2: This was one peach of a scene. In the context of their relationship, this is going to be the turning point.

I loved it that Jodha made no move to get up when he came up, and instead glowered resentfully up at him. I also loved it that instead of attempting any kind of apology, Jalal launched into a farcical broadside against her for lying to the Shahenshah-e-Hind. Absolutely typical of the alpha male type!

@bold- I clapped...jalal asked her why you lied?? Answer- doesn't matter...you believe in things as and when it suits you...

Instead, she launches into a long, typical complaining patni-style monologue, recounting every instance of khunnas against her patidev right since their marriage. What is one to make of this, especially given that she supposedly hates him with a white hot passion?

I think she picked up the conversation from where jalal left it...he asked her 'kya shehensha ki koi ahemiyat nai...?' to which she replies 'ahemiyat humari nai'...kind of, you better not talk about 'ahemiyat'...followed by a list of grievances...I had said before...jalal, the shehensha will redeem himself...but, jalal the husband will have one hell of a time...

It is even more interesting that Jodha mentions only the nazarband as disgraceful behavior in a pati towards his patni. Not only does she cling to the relationship she wanted to desperately to escape, but she seems to have forgotten about the infinitely worse zinda jalana!

'pran jaye par shaan na jaye'

It is evident from the above that it is ditto for Jodha as well. Real hatred, unmixed with anything else, leads to dry-eyed rage, not to angry tears and a litany of accusations.

I think...the poem incident did sow some seeds of hopefulness in jodha's heart...and, just like jalal...jodha is hurt because her tender hopes have died a slow and ugly death...

Unlike Kamal, I would not blame Jodha demanding the patni ka darja on a non-reciprocal basis, and carefully avoiding any mention of all the times when she insulted Jalal, like the shaadi ka joda burning. Why not, if you can get it? A little hypocrisy is a useful trait.

Well said, aunty...😉

By scene end, Jalal was stumped for an answer, and no wonder.

That was a world record...

Jalal will now have to reboot himself inside out, and as his sense of justice is very strong, also make public amends for the public accusations he had made against the Amer quintet. Let us see what he comes up with next. It will be fascinating to see both what he does in the open court, and if he can climb down and apologise to Jodha at least in private, without making a doormat of himself.

I want jalal to redeem himself...but, not turn into majnu type lover...let him repent..eventually he will fall in love...but, his royalty should be intact...same with jodha...I don't want her to be abla nari...she should be upfront, brave and not 'mera pati parmeshwar hai' variety...

Ruqaiya: She came across as intelligent, fair-minded, logical and conscientious.

She is using her brains unlike jalal...

Except of course that they are going wrong because neither Ruqaiya nor Jalal has any understanding of simple, uncomplicated, undemanding goodness of heart, neither in Salima nor in Jodha.

Very well said, aunty...in this complex world, more often than not we fail to observe and appreciate simplicity...what a loss!!!

Precap- the lady in the precap is Salima begum...as you said...this time jalal is using his brains...he loses his temper and control when it comes to jodha...with others he is fine...


Loved your take on the episode!!! I always do...rocking post...👏👏👏


Edited by Super Kool - 11 years ago
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Salima is unwell. Jalal is not , as can be naturally surmised, trying to cosy upto her with the night ending in sweet coital 😆, but is tending to her. Hence the bending over.

I think he tells her It is kesar that is good for health & so she is going to have it. And at the last minute he will snatch apparently convinced that Salima is innocent.

Unless Salima is more devious than any of them & knowing Jalal knows that he won't let her die , 'be phizooli' 😉
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I think, Mansi, it is the effect of seeing too much of Rajat with that scrunched potato nose,that manic glare and that mad,unthinking charging off to some totally wrong destination, like one of the bulls in the Pamplona bull run (remember Zindagi na milegi dobara?). 😉

It grates on the nerves, for I do not like to see him so cluelessly kaan ka kachcha. He is going to become Akbar, after all, and even the embryo Akbar cannot be so mindless.

This is said, the persisting difference between you and me faced with this in extremis situation is that I am irritated whereas, if I am not wrong, you are distraught!!

Don't worry, we will both dig ourselves out of this slough of despond. For starters, tonight should be fun.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: skanda12

Shyamala:

By now it would seem to be a set thing for me to whine and ask "why" and for you to bring reason to things ... but when you yourself write this, I am a basket case!

The title of this post is a triumph of hope of over expectation (with apologies to Dr.Samuel Johnson for pinching his definition of a second marriage😉). Whether it is to be hope fulfilled or hope belied remains to be seen.

I am by now fed up of this endless exercise. I almost wish some disgruntled harem inmate would poison the whole lot: Jalal, Jodha., Ruqaiya, Mahaam, Adham, the works, all except Rahim. It is stupid and demeaning, this endless ranting and raving, and the consequent waste of good actors. Soon, they will forget how to perform well.

Already, Rajat scrunches up his nose, making it look like a misshapen potato, at the drop of a hat, as his Jalal narrows his eyes into a manic glare, before charging off like the Energiser bunny, and invariably in the wrong direction. One of these days, as they say in the fairy tales, the wind will change while he is doing it and his face will be frozen in that expression. A fate too horrible to contemplate, and not just for him!😉

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