Weekly Analysis Thread: Sep 2nd-6th

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Friends, Jyoti is going to join this Weekend Analysis Thread shortly, so I am opening this thread in her place. A lot happened this week ... or rather a lot DID NOT happen in the episodes this week, so there is a lot happening in the air this week! Speculation is rife. And most of the speculation is because we have had no promos, nothing on SBS/SBB, we have had some outdated tweets that are misleading ... and worst of all we have had some "inside info" that is totally misleading!

As Kashi wrote to me, to add to all this, we have all kinds of accusations by Jalal on Jodha and family and all sorts of dhamki dialogues and deadlines - but not one inch of real investigation against the culprit! What kind of mystery is this where there is no investigation at all for five episodes, but only surface-level dialogues of Jalal gnashing his teeth at Jodha and family and saying things like"I hate you (because you hate me)" ... "I suspect you (even though I am still groping for proof)"... "I will do whatever I like (but I actually don't do anything despite dhamkis!)" ... W*F?????

I myself have daily given all sorts of personal theories on whether Jalal's actions are justified, who may be the culprit, who may not be the culprit, whether Jodha and her family are responding aggressively enough, whether Maham-Adam-Sharif are worth watching closely, whether it is indeed Hoshiyaar, whether this war shooting is a signal that this miscarriage track is ending etc. etc. I have been going mad with my theories and with all the spinning possibilities. But since yesterday's episode, my position is this new one now:

My position as of Friday, Sep 6th 2013:

Here are the six big points I noticed in yesterday's episode that have now changed my own point of view:

1. Jalal did look like his hatred of Jodha and her family is genuine and he may not be faking it. Previously he was always shouting at Jodha and her father and brothers in the open sabha giving me the impression that he wanted to enact a drama in front of people as if he may be angry. But yesterday, for the first time, he went to Jodha's room to accost her and give more of his evil-silken dhamkis and his aggressive challenges and sarcasm. It does look like he may be harbouring genuine bad feelings against Jodha and family, suspecting them of betraying him by killing his child, especially when he had started to trust them. It is way over the top, but still we may just have to accept that as Ekta's extreme tendency revealing itself via Jalal, I suppose.

2. Ruqaiya is the only one who looks like she is doing some tehkikaat - some investigation - of the real killer. She has told all the harem ladies, including Mahamanga, that even though Jodha and her family are under suspicion, no one is spared as a suspect in this situation and everyone's belongings have to be checked. Mahamanga has volunteered her own services to do this search, which may or may not be a point to notice carefully.

3. Jodha is dreaming that Jalal has imprisoned her father in chains and is ill-treating him, which may show some over-reaction on Jodha's part also. If Jalal is horrible because of his active "aggressive-blaming" role, Jodha's behavour, to me, is horrible in its passivity and in its "silent-suffering" mode! Despite Jodha's apprehensions, however, Jalal himself has assured her (in cruel words, of course) that Raja Bharmal is not a baandhi, he is resting comfortably and being fed and cared for well, and he is being given due respect, but like any father in this situation he is surely suffering silent torture at the thought of his children in custody as potential culprits. Whether to give Jalal brownie points for his treatment of Bharmal is yet to be decided by all of us.

4. The sudden appearance of the poor farmer asking for insaf for his son (killed by the thug prince of Sujanpur, who is also Sukanya's fiance) should prove to be an interesting intevention in this story now. Jalal is moved by his loss of his own son to help this farmer, and at the same time this is giving Jalal a juicy opportunity to get sweet revenge on the Bharmal faily by going to war against Sukanya's prospective bridegroom, using the Amer boys themselves as his soldiers.

5. Hamida was strangely absent even though Bharmal has arrived, whereas I expected that she would at least acknowledge his arrival. Protocol be damned? I should expect that!

6. Sharifuddin, my object of previous suspicion has been gaayab for the last three episodes! I am noting the point but have no theories why he is missing from the scene of action.

Okay now having encapsulated the latest position, what I want to do is to open nine crucial debates below, raised by the week gone by. In each of these ninet debates I'd love to have everyone's views. I've started the debate with my own views.

Debate 1: Is Jalal's anger and behaviour justified?

My view: No, it is way over the top. If his anger is genuine, it is way over the top. If his anger is faked also, it is way over the top. As I wrote in my post yesterday: "Jalal was genuinely upset at first with the loss of the baby, but let's face it, Ruqaiaya has been known to have several miscarriages. I do not believe that at each miscarriage Jalal behaved so horribly. Evenn this time he must have been affected but not so drastically affected. And if this is the 15th or 16th time this is happening his anger each time must have lessened and he may be more sad than angry at his repeated thrashing at the hands of Fate. Agreed, this time, someone told him that it was not a natural miscarriage, it was induced by a poison. Even so, he could well have realised in one quick moment that even the previous miscarriages could have been induced rather than genuine? If Ruqaiya who was the mother of the lost baby could get this brainwave, why not Jalal himself?" Maybe Ekta wants to heighten all the anger just to make the downfalll of Jalal a huge crash when he realises his mistake in blaming Jodha and family for betrayal. But seriously, how will it help the love story of Jodha-Jalal to reach a new level, just by making Jalal rise to the heights of a miserable wretch and then fall a mighty distance down in self-disgust? More importantly, how can Jodha ever rely on a husband who has these kinds of alarming mood-swings, or who gets so rattled by events that he loses his marbles?

Debate 2: What is the implication of this sudden war?

My view: Till yesterday I thought the miscarriage track would end and then this new storyline would start with a war where some Amer soldiers will fight some other Hindu kings who are opposing the Sujanpur alliance with Amer (since Amer walas made an alliance with the hated Mughals). But now it looks like the war is part of the miscarriage track and is coming right in the middle of the ten days' time Jalal has given Jodha and family to prove innocence. What I now feel is that Bharmal and Jodha will decide that loyalty is the number one hallmark of their clan, and their family problems nothwithstanding (i.e. despite Sukanya's marriage going to the dogs) their first loyalty should be as promised to Jalal. Now if Jalal himself is going to enter the war and fight I see possibilities that Bharmal will openly tell his sons to protect their king (the Shahenshah!) at all costs even at danger to their own lives (even though the same king suspected them of utter disloyalty) ... and Jodha will do aarti and tilak for her war-venturing husband (even if he was a total boor!) ... and during the war itself the Amer boys, ably supported by Mansingh will see to it that they personally get the lashings but they will not let even "one kharroch" come to Jalal. Seeing such obvious loyalty to himself at the cost of their own lives and even after he treated them so badly, Jalal will deeply regret calling the Amer family betrayers, killers and traitors. And this will be the downfall of Jalal's anger and the beginning of his deep remorse. Just in time the real culprit will also be found, and hence all the worse for Jalal's lofty self-righteous position. The higher one climbs the greater the fall! Maybe by next Wednesday after the war will come the fall of Jalal's egoand accusations!

Debate 3: Who is the culprit?

My view: I thought it might be one of the big three first - that is, Maham-Adham-Sharifuddin - and my bet was on Sharifuddin. But after yesterday's epsiode showed some searching going on in the harem, I now feel the culprit will be someone small and inconsequential - maybe a harem inmate, a woman or a eunuch, maybe even this long-suffering Hoshiyaar! The only place where searching is going on seems to be the harem,, and that's the only place it looks like someone may be found. It is another question whether that caught person is a puppet in the hands of Maham or Adham or Sharif, but we may never know that for sure unless one of these three do some "self-revealing talks" but for the continuity of the story these three big guns will continue to run amok! I think just as Jalal and the Amer boys finish their war on Sujanpur, at that crucial moment Ruqiaya and gang will also reveal the culprit - some small fry - and therein will come the end of the miscarriage ka saga! I was even wondering if the Creatives will show no culprit at all and just end this track with the war, but Jyoti tells me that a culprit will be found for sure to give proper closure to this track and to exonerate Jodha without leaving traces of lingering doubt.

Debate 4: Is Jodha and family's behaviour justified?

My view: Really, I am aghast at this pack of mice! Even if they were baandhis and Jalal gave them no chance to speak up, could they not have ventured even one decent sentence in their defence? Could they not have questioned his lack of proof? Could Jodha not have spent the time she did lamenting her father's plight to remind Jalal that he was the one who forced her to feed Ruqaiaya the kesar that fateful evening? I think if Mainvati, Dadisa and Shakuni were the baandhis we would at least have got a "holler fest" from inside the cellars! What is this passivity? Why this "self-pity" and why not some more "spirit"? Even Mansingh has let me down with just an occasional pipe-up and nothing more. C'mon boys, either you learn to speak up more or else please put down your turbans and go do farming instead of soldiery! And as for Jodha, get to the point, girl. And please don't show this bully of a husband your tears for him to wipe with sarcasm! Where are your kasam-filled dialogues, your sharth-filled intellectual salvos and your famed feistiness? Or have you yourself found so much pity in your heart for the Jalal who lost his baby that you are silently forgiving him in your heart already even though the culprit is not yet found and the matter is not yet closed? I am getting the feeling that Jodha is already ambivalent about Jalal, she has some soft corner for him already that is making her less than what she usually is. Wonder if you all agree?

Debate 5: The role of Ruqaiya?

My view: Of all the characters at play now, hats off to Ruqaiya for two things. It was she who first brought forth the logic that since she has been having miscarriages even before Jodha came, some other person must be habitually harming her! And then again yesterday it was she who has started any reasonable form of investigation into the culprit. It is a good thing that she is Lord of the Harem, because the harem is one of the most likely places where such miscarriage culprits may abound. Every one of the inmates there is jealous of every one else, and my suspicion is that most of them attack each others wombs, since that is their point of angst that Jalal is not satisfying them all on that count (how can he satisfy all of them, pray?) ... and so let the search begin. What will happen to Ruqaiaya after the culprit is found, after the war is won and after Jalal apologises to Jodha and starts a new chapter of love with Jodha is to yet seen. Ruqaiya may well become the most jealous woman alive. But for now she is the one with the most brains in a palace with the least justice!

Debate 6: The Maham-Adham-Sharif factors?

My view: The Big Three are there in these episodes more for decoration. They will never get caught even if they are behind the culprits. They are there so that we can hear their mutual talks, and we can suspect them and thus entertain ourselves. They are supposed to be the clever distractions that lead us viewers astray while the real culprit may be an underling, least suspected! All that is proved is that for these Big Three, they all have enmity with Jalal/Waaris and also with Jodha/Amer. Where does that take us? Nowhere! Either they are alll in it together, or at some stage in the future when need arises they will surely form mutually beneficial alliances and collaborations. Meanwhile, for now, they are the to-ing and fro-ing "extras" as far as I can see. Jalal may win the war with just the help of the Amer boys. I am not sure if Adam or Sharif will be used in this war, because the spoiler pics don't show that!) - so again the role of these Big three is doubtful to me in the coming week.

Debate 7: The storyline by the Creatives?

My view: To Ekta & Co I have just one comment on this "wonderfully absorbing and tantalizing storyline" they think they have concocted: W*F????????? If you guys understand the greatness of what you have achieved, I am happy for you, although I am clueless as to the heights of creativity you have gone to. Butchering the character of Jalal (whom I love) is unforgiveable, and making Jodha a "whimpering fool" is again sommething I'd like to hang, draw and quarter you guys for! Go on, surprise us again this coming wek with more dandiya in the name of war! And while you are congratulating yourself on a promo-less suspenseful week of having taken the TRP-viewers all over town on a joy ride, do remembber that the Rajya Sabha members are also watching your fabulous portrayal of "one of the icons of Indian history". You could handle the local protests, you can handle a bunch of silly viewers like us but the Members of Parliament is another story that may become too big or messy even for you to manage. Keep within limits please - for the sake of credibility, for the sake of continuity of the serial, and for the sake of the memory of the real Jalal and Jodha! If they themselves are squirming in their makabras, I won't be surprised!

Debate 8: The spinning by the insider sources

My view: Oh for God's sake, ye friendly "insider information" suppliers! Stay with any one story please! First it was Hoshiyaar, then it was Amer war against other Hindu kings, then it was Amer war with Mughals, and now it is Bharmal breaking the Jalal-Jodha marriage and taking Jodha back to Amer. Someone has also posted that Jalal may now make a proposal to marry Sukanya also (not sure which insider said this!) and this daily pressure of reading the "insider info" is killing me. I am not saying "don't give us this news" for even if I said that no one is going to stop. All that I am saying is: Please give us just one news at a time and stick with that because this serial is making us older by twenty years with every episode and our heart-condition is close to massive heart-attacks anyway and we can't bear this daily news swings from one extreme to another!

Debate 9: Will Jodha return to Amer for the marriage, or will she return in a huff?

My view: There is now a question mark on the marriage of Sukanya itself, unless the remorseful Jalal perhaps helps by supplying an alternative bridegroom? Which he may and should do, if he is all that remorseful, I feel! Secondly, I think Jodha will not go in a huff to Amer, she will go with a happy Amer party thinking "All's well that ends well" and "What a good jawaisa we have!" etc. Jalal may follow a little later to the wedding to (if there is one!) landing there with fanfare and using every chance to hold Jodha's hand during ceremonies where the elder sister and the Jijaji have to perform rites together on the new couple. Life will return to the normal idiocies of the royal courts of Amer and Agra - and we viewers will be left wondering where those two awful weeks of our lives went! Amen!

Okay folks, you now have the floor. Go for it!

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riyya6 thumbnail
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mansi 👍🏼

Have to make a honest confession here, I usually avoid long post. But in JA forum I can't help it but to read long post... Shyamala aunthy post is long n very informative , n how could one miss it, I usually take more than 1 days to complete her post.. 😳 I'm allergic with long post 😆

U have highlight all important points...

Yday epi made me thinking that cvs are gonna use this route, was happens, culprit found. But sukanya marriage will be ? Seems like if like ur saying jalal is not faking it then, the blame will go to ratan Singh n his father that their cruel n sukanya dies not deserve to be married there. Jalal will score her even earlier his intention was a part for farmer but he wants revenge 2.memen bharmal n co will score here coz they assist jalal n when culprit is revealed he will be honored n they will rise. But all in all I dun understand how will akhda love story progress from here. Jalal migh fall for jodha even more but jodha is gonna remain in u destroy everything mode for some time.

The culprit is surely from he harem confirmed by yday epi. Resham is also showing some signs here, but who ever it isi think they are dumb. Coz if they have done that, should they not leave something in jodha chamber. But seems Like there's another saying that when u do bad deeds don't leave any signs or proof behind ...the culprit is following this

Abt maham anga, sharifuddin n adham khan. If at all they are not involve in this, then this track is actually for akhda n ameer people. It has been some time they are missing from the screen n now they are back. So this track will bring change in akhda n ameer. Let's see wer this track leads 2 ...

I seriously feel cvs have butchered jodha n jalal character to some extent with latest jodha not defending herself when she's alone with jalal but crying for her father n family. She suppose to be a fiery Rajput princess n u n ur family had been framed, dub ask me how she's gonna do it when she's kind I'd jail but she's no even thinking n doing anything.

Jalal I find him feeling disgusted with jodha. N his anger is over the top. He's being an emperor should seperate personal n kingdom matters. Yes he lost his child but Bcoz of that he cannot blame just like that, why he is doing nothing, I dun blame him jodha is not saying anything 2 so I have no idea... I guess it's a leading journey for both of them ... Like someone said that they are in rship but no trust so this track will be the one to bring the trust issue between them


Insider information: there's one thing I like in this forum nothing is given out too much n too less. It's still a ?even with the insider information. So I'm like hosyiaar hosyiaar hosyiaar

I will stop here, in ipk days I'm known as emo queen by reduxian n these days I have been writing... I'm like wat the 😆











Edited by riyya6 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Every day this week was confusion for me. Whenever I would think that I have figured out the culprit or think how the investigation will go about, I am proven wrong soon after. In a way I guess it is good; can't have a serial becoming too predictable. Overall, the show had my attention, but there were times when I was like come on get on with the investigation'. Thankfully Rukhaiya started one on her own, but of course this step was expected during the last day of the week.


I did play with the idea that either AK or MA or Sharifuddin were the masterminds behind this; but honestly the 2 men in this list do not have the cunning brain power to think it up. This leaves MA. At many times I thought that no she cannot be the culprit, she seems to truly grieve for what Jalal went through. But could this be a ploy to ensure no one suspects her? She did readily take the reins in conducting the investigation on behalf of Rukhaiya, which made me wonder if she wants to find the proof first and pin it on the person she wants out of the way.


Jalal Jalal Jalal, what to say? I understand you lost your unborn baby, but you are a king first. If there is a conspiracy being cooked up underneath your nose, then you need to investigate that, not get lost in a whirlwind of emotions. After this week's conclusion, I can't say if he's acting like that on purpose, to coax the real culprit out; or he's gone off the deep end.


Jodha, I don't understand your behavior at all. It could be because you and your family are being accused of a heinous crime, but you need to put your brain in motion. Worrying about who is in jail and who is not, is not going to set you and your family free. She's smart, so I hope they show this in next week's episodes. I really like Jodha and everything, but at this point I am glad that Rukhaiya is the 'lord of the harem', as she's the only one doing something.


After this week, the culprit will not be any person who was significant or known in history. It will turn out to be someone completely random; and by the taalashi going on in the harem, it just might be someone from the harem. This person may feel they are getting Jodha out of the way (I'm sure many they have seen Jalal's fascination with her) and gaining another chance to give the shehenshah a waaris (if it is a begum behind this). Regardless of the slow pace this past week, I am excited to see how things unfold!

Edited by mehvy12 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

Mansi 👍🏼

Have to make a honest confession here, I usually avoid long post. But in JA forum I can't help it but to read long post... Shyamala aunthy post is long n very informative , n how could one miss it, I usually take more than 1 days to complete her post.. 😳 I'm allergic with long post 😆

U have highlight all important points...

Yday epi made me thinking that cvs are gonna use this route, was happens, culprit found. But sukanya marriage will be ? Seems like if like ur saying jalal is not faking it then, the blame will go to ratan Singh n his father that their cruel n sukanya dies not deserve to be married there. Jalal will score her even earlier his intention was a part for farmer but he wants revenge 2.memen bharmal n co will score here coz they assist jalal n when culprit is revealed he will be honored n they will rise. But all in all I dun understand how will akhda love story progress from here. Jalal migh fall for jodha even more but jodha is gonna remain in u destroy everything mode for some time.

The culprit is surely from he harem confirmed by yday epi. Resham is also showing some signs here, but who ever it isi think they are dumb. Coz if they have done that, should they not leave something in jodha chamber. But seems Like there's another saying that when u do bad deeds don't leave any signs or proof behind ...the culprit is following this

Abt maham anga, sharifuddin n adham khan. If at all they are not involve in this, then this track is actually for akhda n ameer people. It has been some time they are missing from the screen n now they are back. So this track will bring change in akhda n ameer. Let's see wer this track leads 2 ...

I seriously feel cvs have butchered jodha n jalal character to some extent with latest jodha not defending herself when she's alone with jalal but crying for her father n family. She suppose to be a fiery Rajput princess n u n ur family had been framed, dub ask me how she's gonna do it when she's kind I'd jail but she's no even thinking n doing anything.

Jalal I find him feeling disgusted with jodha. N his anger is over the top. He's being an emperor should seperate personal n kingdom matters. Yes he lost his child but Bcoz of that he cannot blame just like that, why he is doing nothing, I dun blame him jodha is not saying anything 2 so I have no idea... I guess it's a leading journey for both of them ... Like someone said that they are in rship but no trust so this track will be the one to bring the trust issue between them


Insider information: there's one thing I like in this forum nothing is given out too much n too less. It's still a ?even with the insider information. So I'm like hosyiaar hosyiaar hosyiaar

I will stop here, in ipk days I'm known as emo queen by reduxian n these days I have been writing... I'm like wat the 😆



Yes Riyya, yesterday it did look like Resham is showing some signs of hatred towards Maham, na? But there is such utter confusion on the culprit, it could be anybody in the harem. But importantly the whole culprit issue may become secondary to the war! And the war may become secondary to Jalal's seeing the true loyalty of the Amer-walas. In the end we are all rready to book rooms at the mental hospital and if by Wednesday this all does not end we may all be in ICU!😡
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Wasn't akbar known to be really short tempered that led to rash decisions.. Like birbal ki khichdi types?
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Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Wasn't akbar known to be really short tempered that led to rash decisions.. Like birbal ki khichdi types?

Yes but to my knowledge he was quick to anger and also quick to cool off. Not like this for weeks on end!
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Mansi and Riya fab takes and pointers 👏👏👏👏

Here is my take ...

This week I hv nothing much to analyse since it was a week filled only with predictions and guesses regarding who is the real culprit behind the miscarriage ...

I m not really sure what to say about Jalal's action and reaction towards Jodha and her family since to me it was extremely OTT and very unlike the Shehenshah we know 😔 ... Jalal came out looking as if he is suddenly possessed by a typical Ekta soap mills and boons hero who is quick to jump to conclusions and blame his wife only to repent later on ...

I wont say Jalal's behaviour is beyond redemption ,thats a bit too extreme 🤔 .. but i feel his behaviour is a totally OTT in last 3-4 episodes ..First he cages Jodha and her brothers and now he threatens Jodha that he will destroy his sister's marriage proposal by attacking Sujjanpur and even asks Bharmal to join the war with his army since he has to now make a choice between either saving Jodha's marriage or Sukanya's marriage ..Totall blackmailing and that too coming from a Shehenshah 😲 😕😕 .. Also his loud reaction , repeated public humiliation of entire Amer family without proper concrete proof does not really suits a Shehenshah .. Dint he only ask Jodha to feed kesar wala milk to Ruqaiyya ?? .. so why this extreme reaction now .. I mean ok its obvious that he doubts Jodha and her brothers and so kept them in Ekanth till truth is out which is fair enough 😊,but such extreme shouting and humiliation towards Bharmal and Amer without the proper proofs is taking things a bit too far na 🤔 ..


Jalal can silently too show his anger towards Jodha and co rather than screaming and loosing all cool repeatedly .. I do understand Jalal's emotions as a father but as a Shehenshah , he needs to keep it in check when he is in the Darbar since that time he is a king and people look upto him as the fair decision maker .. Also its not first time Miscarriage has happened in Harem as per Ruqaiyya's own words to Jalal .. According to her it happened earlier too before Jodha came there ..So why Jalal is not thinking on those lines ?? 😕 .. Even if he feels emotional as a father , he still need to control it and not forget he is a Shehenshah after all .. I feel CVs took it a bit too far here and forgot he is a king and not a common man ..


I do understand Jalal's anger on Jodha and his thinking of Jodha deliberately doing it for revenge .. so he keeping them in Ekanth till truth is out , is all fair .. But what i feel weird is his extreme way of humiliating all repeatedly which is so unlike Jalal 😒... Jalal blaming Jodha and family for that kesar is all natural but its Jalal's actions this week which r not so Shehenshah like but a typical Ekta hero who becomes mad wolf accusing the heroine only to repent later .. This typical stuff is difficult to digest because CVs need to remember that Jalal is not a typical mills and boons hero in this case 😡.. his reaction and action should hv sparks of Royalty and class which has gone missing 😊...


I will b more than happy if as per Mansi(Skanda12)'s predictions Jalal is faking it all to catch the real culprit and also protect Jodha and her family from that real culprit 🤔... I know this is a bit far fetched idea and difficult to digest that a Shehenshah had to fake to catch a culprit 😆 , but knowing Ekta , I feel this is the best possible way to justify all this madness of Jalal this week 😳.. If he is not faking , then I hv no idea how he will make up for all that he did this week with Jodha and her family 😭...

Again after watching Friday episode , I feel he is not faking since he seems to b serious with his revenge on Amer , reason why he is so desperate to attack on Sujjanpur and test Amer's loyalty mayb .. Mayb like Mansi said in her take , in this war Amer brothers will almost give their life to protect Jalal and his men thus showing their total loyalty for Mughals even if it means breaking of Sukanya's proposal , which might make Jalal think that Amer peeps cannot b the culprit or else in this war they wont b giving their 100% in favour of Mughals 🤔 .. This might make Jalal realise his mistake of going a bit too far with his vengence against Amer peeps when these people only fought bravely in this war saving the Mughals from defeat 🤔...

Even then I m not sure how he can redeem himself .. Lets see 😕...I m hopeful for next week as I want the culprit to b out soon and let CVs end this MC fiasco and get on with Jalal-Jodha love story 😡😳


Anyways enough of my venting now 😆😆.. I will do my set of predictions now regarding who can b the culprit here 🤔

Here r my 8 list of suspects regarding Who can b the culprit 🤔


1) Shariffuddin : There must b some reason why its shown that Shariffuddin was pissed off when Jalal asked him to return all the goods back to Amer ... Shariffuddin wants to become the next Shehenshah and sit in place of Jalal .. So obviously he will not want Jalal's Waaris to take birth .. So he could hv hired someone in the harem to make sure everytime someone gets pregnent , the baby dont survive 🤔...


2) Adham Khan : He too will hv simlar dreams like Shariffuddin and so he too can hire someone in harem to do this miscarriage by messing up with the kesar so that blame can easily b passed onto Jodha and Amer ... I wont b surprised if both Adham and Shariffuddin r together in this case 🤔 .. Mayb even Mahamanga has no idea about it ...


3) Mahamanga : My first doubt went on Mahamanga only when she was all worried about the upcoming waaris but after her emotional outburst regarding how she never wanted to kill the baby , I hv my doubts now 😕... My mind says she is acting as usual and so she only is the culprit but heart says she too is a woman , so can she stoop so low 😕😕... But again Mahamanga has all those enuincs whom she can manipluate and make them do things which noone will come to know .. So its not difficult for her to mix something in kesar and trap Jodha in it ...Mayb she has been doing it since long and so there r stories of so many miscarriages happening in Harem over the years ...


4) That Eunich Hoshiyar : Few episodes back , Ruqaiyya in anger had hit this Hoshiyar with her hookah and his/her forehead got injured badly .. So its a possibility that this person is taking the revenge from Ruqaiyya by giving her similar pain ...


5) Another random begum in Harem : We know how these begums in Harem r insecure and jealous of each other .. So mayb this is done by a random begum in harem who cannot stand Ruqaiyya one bit 😕... I still remember that scene where Ruqaiyya was throwing those gifts to other begums as if they r beggars .. And there she even had an argument with another Begum who told Ruqaiyya on her face how Jodha will soon take her place in this harem because she is different 😉... So there is a slight possibility that in harem only , everytime someone is pregnent , other begums grp up and kill the baby out of jealousy .. All this will make sure Jodha is later given a separate mahal to stay or mayb directly Jalal's room only since Hamida might see Jodha as only hope for Waaris later on 😳...


6) Err Salima 🤔 :
I hope not because I dont want Salima's character to get ruined 😭😭.. I got this thought simply because Salima might want Rahim to b the Waaris since Jalal already considers Rahim his own son .. So Salima secretly might not want any other waaris to take that place and so she killed the baby but mayb she never thought Jodha will b blamed for it ... Its always seen in many crime thrillers that person who looks the most innocent always turns out to b the culprit .. so going by that theory , I m doubting Salima too 😆😆


7)Ruqaiyya herself : Again this is a sight possibility that Ruqaiyya herself killed her baby mayb because someone randomly predicted that its gonna be a girl and we know how she was mad after a boy only which she told repeatedly to Jalal and everyone ... In those days people used to hv faith on all this prediction makers .. So if someone told Ruqaiyya it will b a girl , then u never know , she might hv herself planned this miscarriage and then crying foul deliberately ... I hope this does not happen as it will b a black spot on Ruqaiyya's character then 😔


8) Old enemy of Jalal (New entry) : What if this track marks a new entry who could b some old enemy of Jalal staying in disguise among the Mughals only 🤔.. Since this whole track is dragged for whole week , so it could lead to a new entry too na .. 🤔... I wonder why Amer brothers r fighting suddenly and with whom .. So is it some rival kingdom who will b introduced at the end of this miscarriage fiasco revelation 🤔


Cant think of anyone else 🤔.. it got to b 1 out of above 8 suspects .. One thing is sure , its not a natural miscarriage as its been proved now .. so it got to b one out of above 8 for sure .. lets see ..

I guess next week it might start with war and by the end of war Jalal might not only find out that Amer peeps r innocent and loyal but the real culprit's name might also b out ... fingers crossed 😃

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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Jyoti:
Your three suspects stumped me: I never thought of these three possibilities at all:
6) Err Salima 🤔 : I hope not because I dont want Salima's character to get ruined 😭😭.. I got this thought simply because Salima might want Rahim to b the Waaris since Jalal already considers Rahim his own son .. So Salima secretly might not want any other waaris to take that place and so she killed the baby but mayb she never thought Jodha will b blamed for it ... Its always seen in many crime thrillers that person who looks the most innocent always turns out to b the culprit .. so going by that theory , I m doubting Salima too 😆😆


7)Ruqaiyya herself : Again this is a sight possibility that Ruqaiyya herself killed her baby mayb because someone randomly predicted that its gonna be a girl and we know how she was mad after a boy only which she told repeatedly to Jalal and everyone ... In those days people used to hv faith on all this prediction makers .. So if someone told Ruqaiyya it will b a girl , then u never know , she might hv herself planned this miscarriage and then crying foul deliberately ... I hope this does not happen as it will b a black spot on Ruqaiyya's character then 😔


8) Old enemy of Jalal (New entry) : What if this track marks a new entry who could b some old enemy of Jalal staying in disguise among the Mughals only 🤔.. Since this whole track is dragged for whole week , so it could lead to a new entry too na .. 🤔... I wonder why Amer brothers r fighting suddenly and with whom .. So is it some rival kingdom who will b introduced at the end of this miscarriage fiasco revelation 🤔
But seriously, Jyoti, this whole thing has gone too too far. What is the earthly meaning of took-fying this kind of half-a-dozen episodes on us? No promo, nothing? If this does not end by the middle of the coming week, I won't be surprised if the TRP high sees a ig drop. That should teach the PH a lesson!Ouch😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jalal is being more sadistic and vengeful then necessary.. So much that looks like he has found his dil but lost his brain.. Or maybe he isn't used used to both of them functioning together..
The war is a test of loyalty for sure.
Edited by Autumn_Rose - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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nice topic 👏
i want any other begum not ruku even old enemy is fine
but no sallema no ruku involvement that will be too much 🤢

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