Jodha's behavior - Page 2

Originally posted by: SonyaBlade

actually if you watched one of the previous episodes you would understand a little bit what the significance of burning the lengha really means.

There was a previous episode where Jodha and her entourage were shopping and this sales lady gave her an outrageous price for the dupatta...her Dasi said that she was charging too much and as they went past the booth, the sales lady said taht a mughal Begum / Princess / Queen would never hassle about the price adn would just pay it.

So jodha goes back and the lady doubles her price...the sales lady then said " this is fit only for a queen or something like that...and it was paid for...Then jodha proceeded to give the Dupatta to her Dasi, motibai, adn said rather than a Mughal Queen this dupatta looks good on my servant...

OMG..it was an amazing scene...really put the lady inher place and Jodha showed that she treats everyone around as her equal with nor airs or selfishness...

So when MA said that this lengha was only fit for a Mughal Queen and no one else can even wear one without being punished...it was kind of the same scenario...what an expensive lengha. jodha doesn't care about that...shes put off by that comment about others being punished for wearing a garment fo clothing... Very Jodha - like in her behavior.


However, she hates Jalal

1) because he is a Mughal,
2) he is not just a Mughal, but the Shenshah of them...so double the hatred for him specifically...
3) He has allowed his soldiers to raid hindu temples adn steal and loot,
4) he killed about 20 of her soldiers single handedly,
5) he spied on Amer, then broke out the prisoner that they were holding
6) she had him at Shamsher point...(you know gun point, shamsher point 😆) and still he was able to beat them and leave undetected,
7) apparently he's ruthless and a formidable opponent, who has only leaves destruction and "barbadi" in his path...
8) she knows it was Jalal who she saw in the water in one of the previous episodes adn hes been haunting her dreams ever since
9) His army kiled Suryabhan,
10) He's the Mughal SHENSHAH...so smug, so arrogant, so egocentric, ...


Those are just SOME of the reasons why she hates him, although the last one was my own made up...

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SonyaBlade & Bamonforever (sorry, I do not know your real names), I agree with both your opinions. Jodha today was just being 'Jodha!" Not the valiant princess we've glimpsed on a few occasions. While I want to get upset with her...I can't. I find myself unable to. Because our Jodha is a 'imperfect human' first, 'perfect princess' later.

My dear Sonya( and Riyya too!),

I am not getting into this debate or my wrist will pack up and I have to save it for my own thread. But what Mahaam Anga actually said was that the karigaar who had made this one of a kind joda was forbidden from making another like it as it should remain unique. If he were to try and make another one such, he would be severely punished,

She was arrogant and obnoxious, and deliberately so, but Jodha was petulant and very badly behaved. I thought the first thing royalty was taught was self control.And self control is tested only in extreme circumstances. Jodha's was, and found totally wanting. Your alternatives for her, Sonya, were spot on.

As for her hating Jalal, who has so far done nothing very bad towards her or her family - the fortunes of war aside, both for the one instigated and aided by Sujamal and for Jalal's escape from Amer (what else do warriors do in war except kill enemy soldiers? If Suryabhan had gone after Jalal himself then, as I would have expected him to do, he would have been despatched then itself) - it is part of a syndrome.

At this rate, she should hate all the Rajput rajas who covet Amer, as her astute Dadisa points out, even more, for they are against one of their own.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: riyya6

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Interesting question...Nope Jalal has not done anything to her yet or to her family for that matter. I think what they are trying to show are how both Rajputs and Mughals had deep rooted prejudices against each other. It is also a subtle way to show how Akbar was a great statesman and visionary in making. His understanding of politics and his patience is what led to an era of peace between different communities in India until Aurangzeb ended up on the throne.

I agree completely, except that there was no way she could have died for Amer.Her killing herself would not have saved Amer, quite the opposite.

There was, even in those times, a rajadharma, the ruler's duty to protect his subjects, and a yuddhadharma, of personal honour and do or die bravery. When these clash, it is for the ruler to choose which to follow, and it need not always be the yuddhadharma. Thus, Maharana Udai Singh, the father of Kunwar (and the future Maharana) Pratap Singh of Mewar, whose courage as a warrior was unquestioned, placed his rajadharma first, and submitted to the then Emperor Sher Shah Suri, since he knew that a renewed war then would have destroyed Mewar once and for all. He bent to save his people, and also to live to fight another day.

It would not have been quite the same for Jodha, far more nightmarish, I agree, but that is where cold courage comes in. As also the real meaning of sacrifice, which at times demands not your life, but that you live under unendurable circumstances for a greater cause, Jodha failed this test yesterday,

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

Interesting question...Nope Jalal has not done anything to her yet or to her family for that matter. I think what they are trying to show are how both Rajputs and Mughals had deep rooted prejudices against each other. It is also a subtle way to show how Akbar was a great statesman and visionary in making. His understanding of politics and his patience is what led to an era of peace between different communities in India until Aurangzeb ended up on the throne.

What Jodha displayed today is no different from what Maham Agha displayed a few days back when she challenged a servant burn her hand for her faith.

Rajputs were fanatics about what they considered honor and strongly believed in "Sar kata sakte hain par sar jhuka sakte nahin". It was acceptable to sacrifice their children in war, unmarried women to eat poison, married women to perform johar but trying to forge a treaty with a enemy who was not even Hindu by giving your daughter was shameful. War and bloodshed was a way of life. I understand that many of us find her constant clamoring for Jalal's head delusional but Rajputs were famous for surviving against all odds and executing feats of extraordinary bravery.

She was hoping for a husband of that stature.

We might think that Bharmal was wise to try for a peace treaty but from the standards of that time, he was a coward and an embarrassment to his community. From Jodha's perspective what she was being asked to do was akin to being asked to consort with Satan under the veneer of a marriage. She was being forced to marry an enemy whose race was responsible for the death of her fiance, change religion and probably live like a forgotten prisoner in a harem with hundreds of wives. She was going to be married to Jalal but that did not ensure that she would wield any power over the king. She was poised to lose everything...her pride, her family, her identity, her name, her faith, her religion...it was a fate worse than death. To top it all she found out the truth in the most unsavory way possible...in a circumstance where she could not vent, scream or cry. I bet she would have happily agreed to commit suicide for Amer rather than marry Jalal.

From what I believe...and what one of my Rajput friend has stated...Rajputs believed it was ok to lay down your life and your fellowmen's lives but never give up one's honour... (which is why they were proud and successful warriors for many years!)

And everyone keeps talking of how Jodha is not acting like a proper princess...etc...

That's definitely very harsh... I mean y eouldnt she do it... she hates the mughals... she hates jalal ... she thinks he is actually aware of the stuff his soldiers are up to... n oh yeah.. well she lost her love because of this man.. (she thinks so ) ... n most of all... she swore on her land... on her mother kali that she will present her with jalal's cur off head... n nw she cannot..for how much ever she hates her husband... she will jave to follow her patni dharam and therefore killing hom is out of thw question...

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Tejaswini,

How delighted I am to see you here! Welcome, sweetheart!

I have been here for 5 weeks now, having totally abandoned our old forum, and am having a lot of fun. This show is so good at times that I cannot believe it is an Ekta production. Plus the forum has been very kind and welcoming to me - their tolerance for my long posts is amazing- and is vastly more appealing than the former one.

As for your post, do see mine on yesterday's episode, Jodha Akbar 36: Shahi Shaadi- Imperial flush, at

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/89503290

You will like it, as also the previous one, Jodha Akbar 35: Shahi Shaadi- Opening Gambits. at

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3691766/jodha-akbar-35-shahi-shaadi-opening-gambits

There are a dozen more, but you will never be able to wade thru them!

I hope you are fine and that the baby is thriving.

Shyamala Aunty