JA: Totally unacceptable the 'HAREM' - Page 2

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Riyaa my dear,

It is a pity that Akbar did not get to know of your shock and horror at the sight of his harem, otherwise, he would surely have remodelled it to suit your requirements! You young people are really very funny, you want to reboot history to suit your tastes😉. But alas, that is not the way it works. Plus, as I wrote in my post of last night :

I noted the sense of outrage in parts of this forum about what looked like hundreds of assorted females in the harem. It is uncalled for. It is not appropriate to import contemporary sensibilities into 16^th century India. I am sure they would be just as shocked by same-sex marriages, or the divorce rates in, say, the US!'

The fact is that not just emperors but maharajas as well had hundreds of women in their harems ' wives, concubines and lesser mortals - and this till the 19^th century. Most of these were political unions, others the result of a passing fancy. The king/emperor, who would be an infrequent visitor to the harem ' being often out fighting a war, or surveying his domains ' would probably not be able to recognize half of them, if not more! The way Jalal deals with their importunities was funny and revealing.

Either way, there would be only a small number of senior queens, all of royal lineage, and here I suppose it would be three: Ruqaiya, Salima, and then Jodha. No one minded it, neither the princesses concerned, nor their families. It was the norm, that was all.

It is true that to see so many women have no other aim in life but to catch one man's passing attention is depressing, but this is true even today of the girlfriends or trophy wives of rich and powerful men.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Riyaa my dear,

It is a pity that Akbar did not get to know of your shock and horror at the sight of his harem, otherwise, he would surely have remodelled it to suit your requirements! You young people are really very funny, you want to reboot history to suit your tastes😉. But alas, that is not the way it works. Plus, as I wrote in my post of last night :

I noted the sense of outrage in parts of this forum about what looked like hundreds of assorted females in the harem. It is uncalled for. It is not appropriate to import contemporary sensibilities into 16^th century India. I am sure they would be just as shocked by same-sex marriages, or the divorce rates in, say, the US!'

The fact is that not just emperors but maharajas as well had hundreds of women in their harems ' wives, concubines and lesser mortals - and this till the 19^th century. Most of these were political unions, others the result of a passing fancy. The king/emperor, who would be an infrequent visitor to the harem ' being often out fighting a war, or surveying his domains ' would probably not be able to recognize half of them, if not more! The way Jalal deals with their importunities was funny and revealing.

Either way, there would be only a small number of senior queens, all of royal lineage, and here I suppose it would be three: Ruqaiya, Salima, and then Jodha. No one minded it, neither the princesses concerned, nor their families. It was the norm, that was all.

It is true that to see so many women have no other aim in life but to catch one man's passing attention is depressing, but this is true even today of the girlfriends or trophy wives of rich and powerful men.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: yoga23priya

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Dear no need to worry about Jodha living in Harem. She lived in the separate palace and even Ruqaiya had a separate place for herself outside of the Fatehpur Sikri and here is the proof...</font>

<h1><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Jodha Bai's Palace</font></h1>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Jodha Bai's palace is the largest and most important part of Imperial Harem, having all facilities, provisions and safeguards. The name Jodha Bai palace is a misnomer in itself. It is most widely accepted that the building was for Raniwas or Zenani-Dyodhi. The palace building consists of a rectangular block measuring 231'8"x215' in dimension, with a single magnificent gateway on eastern side, which was protected by guard rooms, having triangular ceiling and other apartments. Several Hindu motifs have been used in the building, which confirms that occupant of the building was a Hindu lady.

Hindu motifs like hams (swan), parrot, elephants, lotus, srivatsa mark, ghant mala etc are decorated in the interior. The colonnaded dalan contains curvilinear square pillars with beautiful moldings and extremely graceful brackets. The western suite, which serves the purpose of temple, contains beautiful curvilinear pillars with brackets. This suite contains vedikas and several Hindu motifs. The super structure of the building is comprises of chhatris, chhaparkhats with eight pillars, semi circular domes and triangular khaprel roofs, The corner domes and khaprel roofs bears traces of arabesque designs in glazed tiles.</font>

Originally posted by: yoga23priya

Dear no need to worry about Jodha living in Harem. She lived in the separate palace and even Ruqaiya had a separate place for herself outside of the Fatehpur Sikri and here is the proof...

Jodha Bai's Palace

Jodha Bai's palace is the largest and most important part of Imperial Harem, having all facilities, provisions and safeguards. The name Jodha Bai palace is a misnomer in itself. It is most widely accepted that the building was for Raniwas or Zenani-Dyodhi. The palace building consists of a rectangular block measuring 231'8"x215' in dimension, with a single magnificent gateway on eastern side, which was protected by guard rooms, having triangular ceiling and other apartments. Several Hindu motifs have been used in the building, which confirms that occupant of the building was a Hindu lady.

Hindu motifs like hams (swan), parrot, elephants, lotus, srivatsa mark, ghant mala etc are decorated in the interior. The colonnaded dalan contains curvilinear square pillars with beautiful moldings and extremely graceful brackets. The western suite, which serves the purpose of temple, contains beautiful curvilinear pillars with brackets. This suite contains vedikas and several Hindu motifs. The super structure of the building is comprises of chhatris, chhaparkhats with eight pillars, semi circular domes and triangular khaprel roofs, The corner domes and khaprel roofs bears traces of arabesque designs in glazed tiles.

Originally posted by: aanchal_c

so was jodhas palace located near ruqaiyas ,and what is jodhas palacacalled now.

Originally posted by: yoga23priya

Dear no need to worry about Jodha living in Harem. She lived in the separate palace and even Ruqaiya had a separate place for herself outside of the Fatehpur Sikri and here is the proof...

Jodha Bai's Palace

Jodha Bai's palace is the largest and most important part of Imperial Harem, having all facilities, provisions and safeguards. The name Jodha Bai palace is a misnomer in itself. It is most widely accepted that the building was for Raniwas or Zenani-Dyodhi. The palace building consists of a rectangular block measuring 231'8"x215' in dimension, with a single magnificent gateway on eastern side, which was protected by guard rooms, having triangular ceiling and other apartments. Several Hindu motifs have been used in the building, which confirms that occupant of the building was a Hindu lady.

Hindu motifs like hams (swan), parrot, elephants, lotus, srivatsa mark, ghant mala etc are decorated in the interior. The colonnaded dalan contains curvilinear square pillars with beautiful moldings and extremely graceful brackets. The western suite, which serves the purpose of temple, contains beautiful curvilinear pillars with brackets. This suite contains vedikas and several Hindu motifs. The super structure of the building is comprises of chhatris, chhaparkhats with eight pillars, semi circular domes and triangular khaprel roofs, The corner domes and khaprel roofs bears traces of arabesque designs in glazed tiles.

Originally posted by: yoga23priya

Jodha's palace is called as Marium Uz Zamani Palace and it is located in Agra. About Ruqaiya's Palace, One is located in Agra and other is in near Jamuna River.😊