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Posted: 14 years ago
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Although it was a good performance with nice choreography and beautiful movements, it was not a finale performance. It did not bring anything new to the table nor did it seem challenging for Sushant and Shampa. These two have given better and more challenging performances in the past. Chang and Yana's performances were more challenging and had a higher level of difficulty, not to mention they brought something new to the table! Shampa is an excellent choreographer, and I think she should have really blown us away today, but she didn't.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: *Woh Ajnabee*

Although it was a good performance with nice choreography and beautiful movements, it was not a finale performance. It did not bring anything new to the table nor did it seem challenging for Sushant and Shampa. These two have given better and more challenging performances in the past. Chang and Yana's performances were more challenging and had a higher level of difficulty, not to mention they brought something new to the table! Shampa is an excellent choreographer, and I think she should have really blown us away today, but she didn't.


Good point. That's what I thought too. However, I'd like to say that while Sushant and Shampa's performance looked easy/nothing new etc. on the surface level, viewing the performance closely I realized it was anything but. For me this was still the best performance of the night. I can see why the judges didn't give these guys a perfect score this time, based on what you're saying. But the thing is, that these two made the performance look really easy. It actually consisted of difficult and original choreography. I think we've also seen so many romantic acts this season with lifts etc. thanks to Salman and Yaana's team, so the romantic concept itself doesn't seem new. But if you look closely, you will see all the little moments Shampa put into the choreography. I find the judges in general were looking for obvious/in your face type of originality. Sushant and Shampa's performance however, showed various layers through their performance. It wasn't simply a romantic act...there were many moments in between and layers of innocence, passion, that 'freedom' of love and full expression of love. That's what their performance was. No other romantic act so far has been able to show these specific moments through dance.

I also liked things like the way Shampa choreographed each beat/moment in the song. It's hard to do for a slow song like this. Esp. moments like when Shampa slowly falls to the ground. And the part where Sushant lifts her up and there's a pause in the lift. Just the way the music breaks and beats were used in the performance was really awesome. Most importantly, these guys more than anyone else on the show, have shown us true ART through their performances. The thing about dance or literature/movies...or any art form a such is that it should be able to absorb you completely into that world. And Sushant and Shampa's performances do that. You're just sucked into that world. Plus the performances are soul touching, they have layers, many emotions and moments within them. That's what for me, sets their performances apart from everyone else's.

Coming to the other two performances. I disagree with you about Chang's performance actually. I thought the steps were pretty easy in this performance. The choreography when compared to the other two performances...wasn't that challenging. Also the emotion of the music was toned down by remixing. It was made more hip-hop and with more distinct beats which makes it easier to dance on. The original song is more aggressive in emotion which this performance didn't bring out exactly. It was more abstract than aggressively impactful in my opinion. So in my opinion, this performance was more along the lines of easier choreography etc. It was just that on surface level the music is aggressive so it gives the impression that the dancing is also just as powerful which in my opinion it wasn't. That's not to say that it wasn't a great performance otherwise though..but not a 10 score worthy either in my opinion.

About Yaana and Salman's performance, there were timing/coordination errors in that performance. Also just because you are using cables to perform, doesn't mean that the DANCING itself is something different. The dance poses/moves were all seen before in their performance. The whole act seemed to me more of a 'show off' of being able to use cables. It was more an OBVIOUS attempt to show something different not a subtle one. My biggest problem with this act though was that the emotion of the SONG wasn't fulfilled. Not ONCE through Salman and Yaana's movements did I feel those bittersweet/nostalgic/memories type of emotions the song demands. It was all Salman and Yaana being romantic/smiley as usual. Nothing different at all in my opinion. Where was the emotion of the song? How was it portrayed AT ALL through their DANCE? Keeping the coordination/timing errors aside, this performance didn't even convey the proper emotion it was supposed to according to me. There wasn't a lot of thought put into the performance if you think about it.

So in that perspective, I do think that Sushant and Shampa's performance was the most innovative...and had the most thoughtful choreography. The layers, emotions and soul put into that performance was on a different level from the other two. It was much deeper, more profound and more layered than the other two performances for sure. Too bad the judges didn't look at it that way though. They were looking for more obvious/in your face differences instead of subtle ones.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: cute2stay

About Yaana and Salman's performance, there were timing/coordination errors in that performance. Also just because you are using cables to perform, doesn't mean that the DANCING itself is something different. The dance poses/moves were all seen before in their performance. The whole act seemed to me more of a 'show off' of being able to use cables. It was more an OBVIOUS attempt to show something different not a subtle one. My biggest problem with this act though was that the emotion of the SONG wasn't fulfilled. Not ONCE through Salman and Yaana's movements did I feel those bittersweet/nostalgic/memories type of emotions the song demands. It was all Salman and Yaana being romantic/smiley as usual. Nothing different at all in my opinion. Where was the emotion of the song? How was it portrayed AT ALL through their DANCE? Keeping the coordination/timing errors aside, this performance didn't even convey the proper emotion it was supposed to according to me. There wasn't a lot of thought put into the performance if you think about it.


So true!! I totally agree with you👍🏼

I was wondering about Remo's thought behind his perfect score to Yaana😕 He is a sensible person and I always regarded him for his unbiased opinion.... 😕 There was no cordination in the performance....looked like two people are hanging randomly In finale people always prepare for the best.... but looked Yaana and Salman deliberately wanted to use bungees to increase the wow factor in the performance instead to trying to perform what they can do best! There was no emotion in the performance that could be connected to the song! Last episode's marking system by judges compelled be to think that the marks were a deliberate attempt to put Sushant/Shampa out of the finale competition😕

Even in solos, I don't think that the three contestants were at per level 😕 I think Sushant's performance was way better than Yaana and Chang🤔 Last episode's marking system was such a joke!🤢 It seemed that the judges predecided the scores😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sushant's performance was not really amazing. I'm so used to seeing concepts in his dances that any performance without it bores me to death.

Some of the steps were pretty awkward, like that one on the table, when Sushant stretches one leg on the chair. I was like, LOL, why the hell would anyone do that on a date yaar!

But as Remo pointed out, the lifts were nice.
@cute2stay: which steps were difficult in Sushant's dance? I thought they did not challenge themselves one bit. Must've been child's play for both.

Salman Yana were simply gorgeous. I felt they deserved 30. Of course there were some minor co-ordination problems, but that is pretty much acceptable when you're doing something so tough. Kudos to them for not choosing the safer options even in the finale, and to Yana for being so brave!

Chang was pretty good. He danced really well and their co-ordination was spot on. And I'm horrendously biased towards him, so no point in doing the typical "I'm not saying this coz I'm a fan but...." and then praising him no end. LOL.
I thought he was amazing, second only to Yana, but then I always think he's too good!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Its_Sash

Last episode's marking system was such a joke!🤢 It seemed that the judges predecided the scores😕

Their marking system always look a joke to me I agree none of them were perfect yesterday to get a 30 and those dimwitted judges were selling 30's like they were on sale Confused
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Posted: 14 years ago
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wow im glad salman & yaana showed off what they'r capable of and its one of da best finale acts i'v seen on jdj. they rocked and it ws a treat to watch them showin off their talents... 😍 😍

after all jdj is all abt showing off da talents and they nailed it 🥳 salman & yaana, u guys are my rock stars!!!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@EatPrayLove: Fair enough, that's your opinion. Dance is pretty interpretive so obviously we cannot all see the performances the same way. For me, the most important thing is the essence of the music. I think maybe it's me, but I interpret the song, "pyaar ke pal" that Yaana and Salman danced on to be a bittersweet song in emotion. There's happiness in reminiscing moments, but there's also a little sadness. That happiness was definitely portrayed beautifully by Salman and Yaana but the sadness wasn't quite there you know what I mean?

But when I saw that performance again on tv in high quality, I did like it alot more. It was definitely very challenging and a very beautiful performance. I guess Salman interpreted the song as more on the positive side. Their performance would've had a lot more depth to it, had they captured the little hints of sadness in the song also. But on second viewing, I do agree that this performance was actually really amazing and beautiful in itself.

I think for me personally, that song itself is SO beautiful you know? A dance performance on this song should make me smile and tear up at the same time. THAT should be the effect of a performance on this song because that is the effect of listening to the song alone! So that I didn't quite feel with Salman and Yaana's performance and that's my only problem with it really.

About Chang and Marisha, I love Chang's energy and I enjoyed the performance overall. But I really don't think it was at the same level of difficulty as Yaana's and Sushant's. I guess we can just agree to disagree on that point.

As for Sushant's performance, I do agree that the concept wasn't anything new as we're used to seeing with Sushant's dances. But the steps/lifts were challenging. It was just easy on the eye and Sushant and Shampa made it look very easy which is what a good dance performance should be also. But yes I do understand where people are coming from when they say that since this was the finale, Sushant and Shampa could've used the opportunity to show us something really different. I personally loved the performance. The romance, movements, lifts were really beautiful to watch for me. :)



Originally posted by: Its_Sash

So true!! I totally agree with you👍🏼

I was wondering about Remo's thought behind his perfect score to Yaana😕 He is a sensible person and I always regarded him for his unbiased opinion.... 😕 There was no cordination in the performance....looked like two people are hanging randomly In finale people always prepare for the best.... but looked Yaana and Salman deliberately wanted to use bungees to increase the wow factor in the performance instead to trying to perform what they can do best! There was no emotion in the performance that could be connected to the song! Last episode's marking system by judges compelled be to think that the marks were a deliberate attempt to put Sushant/Shampa out of the finale competition😕

Even in solos, I don't think that the three contestants were at per level 😕 I think Sushant's performance was way better than Yaana and Chang🤔 Last episode's marking system was such a joke!🤢 It seemed that the judges predecided the scores😕


Oh yeah, I agree with you about the solos too. I didn't think the three solos were equally good for sure. Sushant was def. the best one for me too. His performance was very strong both in emotion and dance movements. Yaana I thought had energy but she totally missed the right expressions and grace. She was really un-graceful with the hands especially. And Chang's performance wasn't really competition level I thought. It was more of an awards show performance. Chang was really entertaining and awesome to watch, but the choreography wasn't that challenging.

I felt like what the judges reduced with Sushant's scoring in the duet round...in terms of not being anything new, they should've compensated for in the solo round since he was much better than the other two contestants. Anyways, I guess the judges were trying to play it safe mostly.

On another note, I found it hilarious when Anu Malik made up that little poem about Sushant being dhamaal, Yaana having taal, but Chang taking the maal! 🤣 Something along those lines...but seriously I'm thinking this might be true after all! 😆😆 I found that hilarious! 😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't know how easy or difficult the choreography for Sushant-Shampa was in the finale duet but I feel they should have added a concept.....honestly given the fact that they've been SUPERLATIVE throughout the season ESPECIALLY with concepts, I was expecting more.....the finale is the time to bring the A game to the table....and while this duet was quiet nice.....to me it wasn't to the level that they've shown before.....Overall also the finale just bored me.....it's funny how it happens with most of these dance shows......the best performances/concepts usually happen early or middle of the season.....by the end everyone seems to fizzle out a bit......lol

Another example would be Shakti-Amar from DID2.....they could never again manage to match their first "Khuda Jaane" performance which became iconic overnight. They did well otherwise, yes......but THAT level was ultimate....nothing matched that again.

And with Sushant-Shampa, I'd say I've been the most impressed with some of their earliest acts.....the horror one, the folk round with the Mrityunjay act (those were like WOW)....the trio act, O re piya, the maa act.....they brought something extra to the table always......

The finale act felt surprisingly simple....atleast what I managed to watch of it....lol
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Posted: 14 years ago
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okay,
regarding the duet performances:
1) sushant: nothing new, but as cute2stay said there were a lot of subtle movements. the normal emotions of a date, were brought out by a the dancing interpretatively. i thought it was an engaging watch.
some say its easy to do, but i dont think it was. the whole act seemed like "old wine in a new bottle" but the dancing was hard.

2) yana: i loved it. there posture, the body language was amazing. i knew they were going to do contempary with LOTS of lifts.they did that in the air, which was a nice twist to their usual style. so i liked that, thy stuck to their strengths and yet brought something new to the floor. i would have given them, a 29 as well

3) chang: i have a hard time remembering his act. so for me thats not a good thing. i felt marischa wanted to make sure chang did a flawless performance in terms of technicality and thus didnt take risks. also, in the finale round, it kinda showed that though chang has improved a LOT, he just wasnt in the same league as them, yesterday. (not in the whole, just yesterday). i would have said 27 was fair.

SOLOs:
1) sushant rocked it. his dip in the duet was made up by the the FAB performance in the solo. the whole act was powerful, enegertic and left a LASTING impression on the audience. a 30 worthy

2) yana: again i loved her flamenco dance with the drapes holding her and the emphasis was on her footwork. shows that she was confident of them and she did a beautiful job. she LOOKED the part of a flamenco dancer and from the 1st minute to the end was fab. the footwork was clean, crisp.
i wish yana did more of these dances THAN hip-hop and contempary in the previous weeks. then people (including me) would have a diff. perception of her.

3) chang: again, on the basis of performances only.. he didnt bring it at all. he was too safe with his style. nothing special. when sush and yana set the bar so high with their solos, chang was a let down.

on the whole i wish we got to see MORE solos in the previous weeks. it really helps ascertain who has improved and can dance. in the solos, there is no relying on partners , no lifts, just dancing.. so then audiences might have a different pereception.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#20
I think all three deserved a 30 and Sushant's performance was definitely worth a 30 and so was SalYana and Chang's. I especially loved SalYana😃, Loved it🤗.

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