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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: tina59

cmon guys after 3 years u are saying that anyone could have done a great job as jassi inplace of mona.(yes tina..any decent actress could have done it......i am not taking away that mona is a good actress...but when she herself is so disloyal to her show and talks ill about it...i repeat..any actress would have been accepted..we accepted mona as jassi in 2003 for the concept..mona as an actress was MEDIOCRE then)


THEN I CAN CLEARLY SAY TNAT SAMIR SONI COULD HAVE DEF DONE A BETTER JOB THAN APURVA AS ARMAN SURI AND HE COULD HAVE TAKEN JJKN TO GREAT HEIGHTS AND LENGHTS .(tina, in fact samir somi was better than apoorva in 2004...apu could not act then....he used to only bark at jassi...samir on the other hand was better than apoorva....take it or leave it..no, i am not swaying..i yet love armaan and not purab......i hate purab but samir was a better actor than apoorva in 2004....its only from 2005 that apu started showing the signs of a good actor👏...if you dont believe me, watch nomi's old videos...apu was bad when jjkn started)

I am sorry for writing in caps but it really hurt me to hear that anyone cld have done well as jassi if played from the beginning.this much hatred for just an interview of hers.(no tina.....we have not discussed about this topic till now..that's why you feel that i am being biased....that's not true...even now i say that mona was not good when jjkn started....her dialogue delivery was not great and her acting too...but now she has improved over the years.....any decent actress(i am not talking abotut he deplorable ones like ss and neha bamb....i am talking about the decent actressess like shama sikander).. with some theatre background and who was willing to shed her glam image and wear the chashma would have done..and in fact we would have even loved that actress)


i am a big arman fan and everyone knows that and i am an even greater fan of apu and mona as a pair but i can never say that anyone cld have done well as jassi.(it is true..any decent actress could have played jassi and she would have improved over 3 years.....i repeat again, any decent actress with some theatre background would have fitted the bill and we would have accepted her...it sounds obnoxious NOW as we are used to seeing mona as jassi.....but if in the beginning, any other actress was roped in, even then we would have watched the show for its concept...and our love for apu n mona as a jodi started only recently after they fell in love and blah blah..initially in 2003, is was the simple middle calss working girl concept that was appealing and not the chemistry..and the show became popular because of the concept)

then even i can say that apurva isnt even least inetersted in JJKN AND as arman coz he never put his foot down when the script was going for a toss ,infact he openly said that he is a yes yes man and he rec money for it and thats all that matters to him.(yes, he at least admits it.....and plus armaan was not a national icon. and there was no stamp released with armaan's pic.....armaan was a philanderer and a flirt and it was jassi who was the mahaan, the alter ego of every middle class girl and the person whom we could relate to....so she she is EXPECTED to stand up and even if the the makers do not agree as this was a morality issue...and armaan was never the mahaan or the role model...so in fact even if apoorva does not oppose to these things, it can be pardoned to some extent(i am not saying that its right, but it can to some extent be pardoned)....but mona's agreeing to the butchering of jassi's moral values and sanskaars was not pardonable as she was a role model....)

atleast mona singh is a lot better and attached to her role coz it hurt her that her role was shaped like this and she did object to certain scenes and plots.(ok, but answer this one Q...if she is soooo attached, why did she agree to enact the pms scene..and who else knows jassi better than mona....if she had stood up then, i would have agreeed that she is attached ...but no...heck, she ddi not even answer a craze fm Q regarding the PMS..and i would not accept it if you say that maybe she objected but the makers did not agree....when she has the mouth to say that "ITS DISHEARTENING TO HEAR THAT JJKN IS NOT ENDING", then she certainly has the guts and the courage to say that "i was against the pre marital sex but i was forced to by the makers".....heck, she did not even apologize to the viewers for the pms..and there was an article saying that ppl feel ditched because jassi stooped to the level of any K heroine)

so i can safely say that apu is the least bit interested in jjkn(dude, just because he doesnt talk, it does not mean that he is not interested, and neither does it mean that he is not unhappy with the script....he does not talk bullshit and he does not contradict his statements....now please dont say that because mona talks crap she loves the show and becuse apu does not talk crap and maintains his dignity, he does not love the show......) and all he does is say "yes" to everything and mona is much better in that atleast she comes out in thein the open with such things(well, he at least says that he is a yes yes man and that he agrees to everything....mona on the other hand says that she is just like jassi and that she loved to be jassi...and answer this Q...if she was so attached to the show, why didnt she talk about the PMS in the interviews....she spoke about the running away but she never spoke even a word about the PMS......why??????at least apoorva never said that he is tired of playing armaan, and that he desperately wants the show to end, and that it was a torture and that he was just like the changed armaan(i repeat, the changed armaan....the good nice lovable armaan).....apoorva never contradicts his staements and as far as his attachment and love for jjkn is concerned, he is as passionate as mona is about jjkn if not more...and he did say at the tellies that he thanks tnd for giving him a role like armaan and the platform and he in every interview says that armaan was what made his career....and that jjkn has sone something that even pardes and subhash ghai could not do.....so lets not say that he is not passionate about jjkn and his work.....)and takes things personally as far as jassi is concerned and wants to show to end on a high note and wants jassi to be known to be good instead of bad and ugly.(well, if she wanted jassi to be known as good and not as bad and ugly, she must NOT HAVE ACCEPTED TO ENACT THE PMS SCENE AND THE RUNNING AWAY, COME WHAT MAY......jjkn is allready reduced to a fraction of its original standards and i dont think that anything worse can happen...and she does not have to repeat 4566556656 times that it must end on a good note as it will end on a good note...tnd wont end it showing armaan die and jassi as a widow....)

no offense but it just hurt and upset me when someone talk like anyone cld have done good as jassi (i yet say this(and this is not out of disappointment that i'm saying but i truly mean it)..any decent looking, decent actress with some theatre background would have done a good job and in the process would have improved on the acting just like how mona did......)

i cant imagine anyone as jassi and arman and i will neer say that anyone else cld have done well as jassi and arman if played form the beginning .NO WAY(in everyway.....dude,we love them because we have been watching them for 3 years...but trust me, even if anyone else had played jassi and armaan from the beginning, we would have yet watched the show for its CONCEPT(lets not forget that it was the different concept that appealed to us and not armaan or apoorva or mona...i am not saying that now all of us will accept(actually even now the mad armaan fans who watch jjkn only for him will continue watching it even if mona is replaced).....but i am saying that any decent actress could have played jassi and we would have loved her no less.....so lets not confuse ourselves not being able to distinguish between the love for jassi and the love for mona...and that's precisely what's happening here)

Edited by Buffie - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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ohh and may i also add that AA has always said that work is work whether on TV or in Bollywood; and yes his career wasn't going all that well when he got JJKN but he wa starting JJKN with a newcomer; whereas he had done PARDES with THE ShahRukh Khan and the reason the show is what it is today;and the reason jassi's character and Mona were both appreciated; and the JandA chemistry is loved is because of a VERY SECURE man called Apoorva Agnihotri who did NOT at all mind his co-star basking in the limelight; and did not go announcing that he was disheartened; and was TIRED and wanted to do Nach Baliye ONLY or whatever else
Edited by legallyblonde21 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: legallyblonde21

and the JandA chemistry is loved is because of a VERY SECURE man called Apoorva Agnihotri who did NOT at all mind his co-star basking in the limelight; and did not go announcing that he was disheartened; and was TIRED and wanted to do Nach Baliye ONLY or whatever else

i completely agree with sheena (not because she's my friend but because there is so much of truth in what she's saying)...if there was anyone who should have cribbed, it was apoorva because his character was butchered and he was never given the centerstage and it was always jassi..........he had all the reasons to feel disheartened as he was portrayed as a characterless flirt.....and these characters do have an impact on the audience and he knew it.......but yet, he never cribbed or complained......infact for the first 1.4 years of the show, armaan did nothing....yet he did not sulk and give interviews bashing the show......and i seriously find no reason as to why mona must feel disheartened as there is no better show than jjkn....and if she wants jjkn to get over because then she can give time to her so called"film committments", if that was what she implied when she made the statement"i am tired and bored", well, lemme tell this that the future of the so called"woman oriented movie with abhi as the lead" looks bleak as only mona seems to talk about it.....and no one else not even the producer......

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Buffie

i completely agree with sheena (not because she's my friend but because there is so much of truth in what she's saying)...if there was anyone who shoudl have cribbed, it was apoorva because his character was butchered and he was never given the centerstage and it was always jassi..........he had all the reasons to feel disheartened as he was portrayed as a characterless flirt.....and these characters do have an impact on the audience and he knew it.......but yet, he never dribbed or complained......infact for the first 1.4 years of the show, armaan did nothing....yet he did not sulk and give interviews bashing the show......and i seriously find no reason as to why mona must feel disheartened as there is no better show than jjkn....and if she wants jjkn to get over because then she can give time to her so called"film committments", if that was how she meant when she made the statement"i am tired and bored", well, lemme tell this that the future of the so called"woman oriented movie with abhi as the lead" looks bleak as only mona seems to talk about it.....and no one else not even the producer......

yes and the producer has not made any announcements; there is no director; dialogue writer; story writer; and Abhi is busy with his pending commitments and the list of directrs wantng to sign him grows by the day(reference to my post on page 4 as I am NOT going to list all the films and directors he has)..and when he has the A-list Bwood actresses DYING to work with him(once again refer to page 4 for the list)..why would he work with Mona Singh; who if the movie flops might say she is disheartened and she didnt like the story, etc etc

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Posted: 19 years ago
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.why would he work with Mona Singh; who if the movie flops might say she was disheartened and she didnt like the story, etc etc

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

yes yes....she'd say"i 'm tired of playign a middle class girl and its boring and its disheartening that the story was not nice and it dragged and blah blah
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Posted: 19 years ago
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ok i have come to the conclusion that whatever debates we have on this ,our perpective on jjkn and mona's interview ae way different.In the end we all love JJKN dearly and thats what i understood from this thread for different reasons

Now i just feel that we both are way diff in our outlook thats all,see, u feel that apu saying yes to everything and not puting his foot down on certain scenes is better (he himself said in his interview that he says yes to everything and he is a sony man and he does it for money)

ok i say mona is better coz she has some passion and attachment to the serial and thats why she puts her foot down on certain scenes like marriage and running away. these are the ones i know abt coz she spoke abt it ,dont know how many more she objected to.So me thinks that she is atleast having some involvement in bbein jassi and cares abt her role

I totally disgeree that samir was a better actor than apu,apu was way way better ,we didnt notice him coz he had grey shades then and samir had a pure white character given to him. It was in 2005 that he started loving jassi and we saw the passionate arman suri and fell in love with him.

I will not wish mona bad luck in movies or serials coz she is a gret actress and she has done full justice to her role .

next point ,ekta may be ruling and her serials may be running long and her heroines may be bigger stars but that doesnt mean they are the best and her serials are the best and the heroines are the best actresses in television industry

the only point which i agree with u is thats he should have said that one statement where she siad that it was dishearteneing that everytime she hears rumours and the serials doesnt end

now for 2 yers she was madde to wear the braces and specs and she herself said in her interview that sony wanted her to look like that and she wasnt allowed to say that she was a model and stuff, so she did that part to the T and enever revealed herself and said she looked like that and stuff .That doesnt mean that she didnt feel bad and she didnt go through pain wearing those braces ,that she found it hard to be discreet wherever she goes.what if she says it now that it was inded a mental torture those 2 years to be like that in pain and being discreet.I can completely understand what she went through.

as a creative person,one always wants to do diff things.Apu works for money and hence says yes for everything.Maybe mona wants something else and wants to even beter creatively and wants to do better roles.she herself admitted that she can never get any role better and bigger than jassi and yet she wanst to do something different than jassi and wants to satisfy herself creatively,is that wrong

moreover she never said she hated being jassi.She always liked being jassi and jassi was clsoe to her heart.All she is saying is that she is tired of doing the same thing for 3 years and wants to do something diff or needs a break.




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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: tina59

ok i have come to the conclusion that whatever debates we have on this ,our perpective on jjkn and mona's interview ae way different.In the end we all love JJKN dearly and thats what i understood from this thread for different reasons well..I have always said i want JJKN to go on because I want to see AA and I will take anything for him;

Now i just feel that we both are way diff in our outlook thats all,see, u feel that apu saying yes to everything and not puting his foot down on certain scenes is better (he himself said in his interview that he says yes to everything and he is a sony man and he does it for money) uhhhh he said he didnt agree with Armaan and Mallika's wedding; he said he was a sony man; he said he is a yes-yes man; BUT he ver said any crap against his own show or said he was disheartened

ok i say mona is better coz she has some passion and attachment to the serial and the poor guy Apoorva has been playing a character for 3 years without any emotions; hasn't he and thats why she puts her foot down on certain scenes like marriage and running away.those scenes STILL happened; and why is she saying this NOW; why NOW; why not give an interview then these are the ones i know abt coz she spoke abt it ,dont know how many more she objected to.So me thinks that she is atleast having some involvement in bbein jassi and cares abt her role yes and the rest of the cast has just been doing it without any attachments; AA doesnt rilli breathe; eat; sleep Armaan Suri; he has no involvement whatsoever😡

I totally disgeree that samir was a better actor than apu,you just said he was a better actor😕;apu was way way better ,we didnt notice him coz he had grey shades then yes and I have always watched this show for the guy from pardes😳and samir had a pure white character given to him. It was in 2005 that he started loving jassi and we saw the passionate arman suri and fell in love with him. well I liked AA from pardes; falling in love is a different matter

I will not wish mona bad luck in movies or serials coz she is a gret actress and she has done full justice to her role . no one said she is a BAD actress; we said her success as Jassi has gone to her head; we said stuff that was factual..THINK about it Why would Ekta hire Mona Singh; why would KJo; Adi' YR films; rohan Sippy; Sanjay Bhansali; etc etc hire MS; why would John or Abhi work with MS when they have all the Bwood actresses waiitng to work with them; when would they work with MS..they are really busy stars..thats is not wishing anyone bad luck..it is just showing someone the REAL picture

next point ,ekta may be ruling and her serials may be running long and her heroines may be bigger stars but that doesnt mean they are the best and her serials are the best and the heroines are the best actresses in television industry Greater TRPs more Balaji shows on most of the Channels; eevryone wanting to work for Balaji; no one said her shows were better; no one said her actresses were better--they JUST do NOT say random crap; or that they are tired or disillusioned;it is a fact that more people know who Ekta Kapoor is vs, TnD--even KJoand Simi have had Ekta on KWK and Simi's show

the only point which i agree with u is thats he should have said that one statement where she siad that it was dishearteneing that everytime she hears rumours and the serials doesnt end YES and that one statement DISAPPOINTED & greatly angered a LOT of her fans;who SAYS that??

now for 2 yers she was madde to wear the braces and specs and she herself said in her interview that sony wanted her to look like that they wanted her to look like that; she knew what she was getting ino before she signed on; she could have turned it DOWN and she wasnt allowed to say that she was a model and stuff watch the AJK Jassi Special; she says there was no contract where she had to say she was Jassi and NOT Mona Singh; watch the video it is still a sticky, so she did that part to the T and enever revealed herself and said she looked like that and stuff .That doesnt mean that she didnt feel bad and she didnt go through pain wearing those braces she knew what she was signing up for before JJKN started ,that she found it hard to be discreet wherever she goes.what if she says it now that it was inded a mental torture those 2 years to be like that in pain and being discreet.well she didnt have to say that she hated it NOW after the make-over; she changed her statements; please refer yoursefl to her previous interview where she has said she looks like that; loves the braces; loves the glasses; is exactly LIKE Jassi and NOW is saying she hates it and is NOT like Jassi; then she says oh she wont mind if she was known as Jassi forever; and then again she says"I am Mona Singh NOT Jassi" contradictions galore!I can completely understand what she went through.

as a creative person,one always wants to do diff things.Apu works for money and hence says yes for everything. i cant believe this..if he actually did work for money he would have accepted whatever other roles came his wayMaybe mona wants something else and wants to even beter creatively yes BUT she is tired and disheartened; unlike most TV stars..don't tell me AA doesnt fully give himself to Armaan Suri's character and wants to do better roles.she herself admitted that she can never get any role better and bigger than jassi and yet she wanst to do something different than jassi and wants to satisfy herself creatively,is that wrong no its NOT but she should nOT be tIRED of the show that gave her the bEST break ever and say all this when the scenes are being filmed and not go onn and onnn and onnnn about a movie that is yet to happen; and she shouldnt contradict herself in all her interviews..

sorry Mona fans; No offense😃

moreover she never said she hated being jassi.She always liked being jassi and jassi was clsoe to her heart.All she is saying is that she is tired of doing the same thing for 3 years and wants to do something diff or needs a break.




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Posted: 19 years ago
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tina, see, i know everyone has got their perspective...but i will defend apu when you say that he is not passionate and that he works for money😭😭😕.....if apu works for money, does mona works for free???????😡...man, if you dont know, mona earns a whopping 36 lakhs a year...apu in fact earns less...mona is paid 28000 per episode whereas apu earns only 25000....so lets not say that apu is not attached to the show and passionate about his work.....



and as i said earlier, no one expects armaan to be rightous and ethical...but jassi being the role model, the alter ego, idol and what not 😡 is expected to be dignified ....so mona was expected and HAD TO OBJECT TO CERTAIN SCENES jassi being an austere woman of unquestionable moral rectitude and integrity, should not have succumbed to the allure and the seduction of her boyfriend(which is what exactly hapened in the studio).......



and plz ...if apoorva works for money, so does mona....if mona claims that she remonstrated, so did apu...he infact said that he was not happy but at the end of the day, they are just mere puppets in the hands of sony and have to do what they are asked to.......mona says the same thing that finally i have to do what they tell me to...so tina, its really ridiculous to say that mona is more passionate and attached to the show than apu



and samir was a better actor👏😛....tina, there was this one scene where purab tells jassi in alibagh that she has a heart of gold and that she she worries about everyone else but herself...he was really good then👏👏....his dialogue delivery was perfect and he portrayed every emotion to perfection👏...but its true that purab's character was butchered just to get jjkn on the BLF track where jassi ends up with armaan....in fact that was the first signs of inanity and if the great mona is so attached to the show, she must have put her foot down then as purab's dumping her was just ridiculous,ungracious,brusque and unbelieveable😕... (though i was the happiest person 😛😃😃because i was always an armaan fan😳😳 but that does not mean that i will be in denial of the fact that samir was better than apoorva in 2004👏👏).....and i am not saying that apoorva was bad in 2003-04 just because he had shades of grey....armaan turned negative overnight even after jassi ran away...and he was terrific then... .....but the fact is that he was not very good in the beginnng..the same fellow who played the grey role in 2005 was mindblowing...but in the beginning, apu was not good 😕


and no one is wishing mona bad luck....no one is such a sadist...no one is so vicious.....but its just a fact that her filmi future does not look too bright as her movie never seens to happen and is getting postponed time and again...and the cast and crew have not been finalised...and she might not find any new role as ekta does not cast the other production houses' finds and neither does sony repeat their actors.....


and no one said that the K heroines are the best..but they do not talk rubbish and its true(sadly) that they are very popular(sadly) despite of the stupid stories and the same cliched crap repeated over and over again


it is nothing wrong to say that playing jassi was a torture...but if it was a torture, then why did she say that i am enjoying it and that i am just like jassi and that i got the role because i wore braces and that I have no problems with this garb and that i never want to shed this image😡......why did she have to talk rubbish then????she was lying then....and isnt that irritating ....why did she have to lie..if she was not really comfortable, she must have sad it.....you say that she is so upright and goody goody...then why did she have to lie???


and lets not say that apu works for money and mona doesnt....let me quote ronit roy here"I've worked 24 hours a day and shot 10 days non-stop, and I still have 30 working days a month. And schedules will remain just as hectic," says TV actor Ronit Roy nonchalantly. Roy does not hold anyone responsible for his busy work schedule. "It's the way things are. If you want to work you have to comply," he adds.


link:

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/nmirror/mmpaper.asp?sectid=17&am p;am p;articleid=25200627289532520062714984

yes, so if one wants to work, one must not crib..and afterall she was the one who chose her profession....

lastly, if she is so attached to the serial, she WOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING WHICH IS BRINGS THE SHOW'S POPULARTIY DOWN.... apu too works for money but he does not say any degreading stuff


we can argue as much as we want till we are blue in the face, but the fact is that many of these stars do not care abt what we feel(because if they so care about the fans, they would not let them down and talk rubbish)...they dont care and they do everything only for their moolah and as long as their bank balance keeps increasing, they do not mind anything...all the rest is crap.....


Edited by Buffie - 19 years ago
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😕 EVERYONE!!! Calm DOWN!!!!!!!!!
Breathe!!!
Exhale!
Inhale..........
Exhale............
Inhale............

Okay, what are we debating about? Mona Singh being selfish or are we mad that she wants to end JJKN?

I have a question:

Do we want JJKN to be a nevverending story with twists and turns like KKusum?
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Originally posted by: mikagurl23

😕 EVERYONE!!! Calm DOWN!!!!!!!!!
Breathe!!!
Exhale!
Inhale..........
Exhale............
Inhale............

Okay, what are we debating about? Mona Singh being selfish or are we mad that she wants to end JJKN?

I have a question:

Do we want JJKN to be a nevverending story with twists and turns like KKusum?

Lol Mika...you know its really funny cause I think this whole thing started with hating Mona for one reason and then it came somewhere where its even hard to distinguish what the hatred is all about. My thing is if I hate someone, I will just admit it and stop playing twisters with the issue...One day she rokkks and then the next day she sucks😕 is never my fortee

And no I personally don't want the show to drag at all...I want it to end it happily and end with Mona & Apu still playing JandA

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