VALID RAVISH-VIVIDHA MARRIAGE: Law As It Stands In India - Page 4

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thank u so much for sharing this.

Though I always stick to the point that Ravish And Vividha are married but my understanding was not on basis of law.My understanding was just in general,taking random vows every second day cant get two people married.Thats it and thats not at all enough to get into a discussion with a person who is talking about law.

But anyways,seriously the stuff I get to see here.Second hand embarrassment is the only thing I feel when I realize the confidence is just so hollow and useless.Leave the actors,characters and serials,law hai ke halwa hai ke kuch bhi boldo aur karlo?!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: yogs1

Tfs!

In fact ravish is a real.victim in this..kashyap gang has cheated him for the or own selfish motives.

This was very much needed. u cannot mislead law and believe in the so called vachchans and claim it as marriage. If that was the case many people will randomly promise each other and claim to be married. joke of marriage as an Insituation.

Now its in Ravish's hands ..and I sure he will definitely go ahead with it at the right time!





ViTharv's chants or whatever-that-is (definitely can't call it a marriage) has no significance in the eyes of law. Vividha can never claim coercion as a defence because:

  • firstly, Ravish or his family did not coerce her,
  • secondly, she was under no coercion, when she took the seven pheras with Ravish, and
  • thirdly, even if she claims that she was coerced at the time of marriage, she had an obligation to speak up as soon as she was free from such coercion ( i.e. the coercion had ceased to exist). [Her silence even after knowing from her mother that Atharv is okay, would be taken by the court as her acceptance of her marriage with Ravish].
@bold: Ravish has always done the right thing without any hesitation or fear of consequences.

BTW, I have always admired your posts on Ravish (that you post praising Ravish).
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: determination





@bold: I hope so too.

BTW, you are another person, whose posts about Ravish I enjoy reading a lot.




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetygirl28

Unfortunately Indian serials don't follow law , logic . It's only the trps that matter. It's the fate of viewers to watch whatever they decide to show. May be it's vitharv or may be it's ravidha.

I personally think ravish will not want to stay in a marriage where he knows his wife is not interested in. Coz he has seen the outcome of such marriage .

We vitharv fans want atharv viv to unite. Ravish fans don't want viv for ravish. So I don't see any problem.

Marriage is valid or invalid outcome is the same




@bold: I absolutely agree with you on that point.

@red: I personally have no preference between ViTharv and RaVidha. I absolutely adore both the male leads. In my original post, I only wanted to clarify the legal position in India.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ExcuseMePlz

Thank u so much for sharing this.

Though I always stick to the point that Ravish And Vividha are married but my understanding was not on basis of law.My understanding was just in general,taking random vows every second day cant get two people married.Thats it and thats not at all enough to get into a discussion with a person who is talking about law.

But anyways,seriously the stuff I get to see here.Second hand embarrassment is the only thing I feel when I realize the confidence is just so hollow and useless.Leave the actors,characters and serials,law hai ke halwa hai ke kuch bhi boldo aur karlo?!





You're welcome.

Hope my thread helped to clear the position of law. If you have further queries, do ask; I'll be happy to reply to them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I'm sorry but forced consent obtained under duress is NOT valid according to Hindu Marriage Act. There's no free consent involved. I'm not sure why you're leaving that part out.
PS : Read section 12 of HMA 1955. You'll get what I've been talking about. Vividha can file for annulment. She definitely can.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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She made a deal ? DEAL
how she could makes deals if she was so much forced?🤔

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: 13thwish

Interesting post! Now I am no lawyer, so I can't say I understood everything you posted, but whatever I did understand alarmed me quite a bit.

Let me use another example from the show to explain why.
Uma (Vividha's mother) loved someone else and was forced to marry Kailash. Now Uma (as a character) was too timid to consider stepping out of that marriage, but hypothetically speaking, let's assume she wanted to. From what you are saying, the law would not be on her side even if she tried.
Obviously someone like Kailash would never consent to a divorce. Does that mean poor Uma would have to wait until he abuses her, just so she would have grounds for divorce? 😲

Frankly, if these are the laws of my country, then I am genuinely afraid both as an Indian citizen and as a woman, because clearly it seems like, the law would do absolutely nothing to protect me until it was too late. Guess I should just feel thankful I'm not Uma then and either pray that I'm never in such a situation or consider moving to another country where I will be protected if I ever am.

Thank you TM for enlightening me. Lost whatever little faith I had in the Indian judicial system after this sadly though.




Very good question. Let me try to clarify your doubts.

In Vividha's case, Vividha did give her consent (please refer to my original post as well as the point on coercion that I previously wrote about). Similarly, in your hypothetical case of Uma, if Uma gave her valid consent, then she cannot apply under Section 5 or Section 12 for a remedy. However, Uma would be able to get divorce on the ground of cruelty [Section 13 (1) (ia), which includes even emotional cruelty as was meted out to her by her husband in the show]. Also,if you read all my posts on this thread thoroughly, you'll see that I used the phrase "at this moment" again and again (regarding Vividha having no locus standi to file a petition for divorce). In future, there may arise legal grounds for Vividha to ask for divorce. Also, for people who are really aggrieved, law considers using the "irretrievable breakdown of marriage" clause (though it's a tedious process and very difficult to prove).

Legally speaking what Vividha should have done was to speak up then and there (at the mandap) or immediately after the moment she heard from her mother that Atharv was doing okay.

We are all educated people (like Vividha). If someone is truly forcing us, we approach the police (lodge a complaint) or protest in public, the moment that coercion ceases to operate.

You realize that in India, there are plenty of youths who think themselves to be in love (not saying that that is the case for Vividha). If the courts allow everyone to break marriages on the ground that he/she thought that he/she was in love with another before marriage, then no one would respect the institution of marriage.

I hope this answers your questions and curbs your apprehension. Law would always protect a woman's rights, not her whims and fancies (remember Vividha, post marriage, at one point, believing Atharv to be happy without her, had decided to move on).


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .life_is_fun.

This is something I would like to know as well and since I am also not a lawyer so please consider it as a genuine question out of curiosity... 😊 😊 😊

Suppose due to any reason tomorrow Ravish refuses to divorce Vividha... We all know under what circumstances she got married to him... Forget about whom we favor for a time being so does Vividha has no choice to move out from the marriage ?? That's actually scary...

Omg... Because of JNDSD, I may have to rethink about getting married... 😆 😆




Please refer to my previous post (my reply to the doubts raised by "13thwish").
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: hell_heaven...

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