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Posted: 16 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: rupalip

Thanks Rajnish ...
Thanks for all description...


yes Angels waiting for ur post

Thank u Rupali. very sweet of u! 😳 Thanks!
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Posted: 16 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

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Garg Samhita:--
I am sorry I am not able to post the skand and shloka since my scriptures arent with me right now. If u wud like to know the whole shloka and everything then u can reply here and I ll write that as well. I am just giving in brief here since I get limited time for my net. Its here where we get know there are many Lord Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha 😳
Once Brahmaji in his heart got this thought that he is supreme. He himself along with Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesha are supreme. He went to Vishnu bhagvan and said the same to him that all three of us are supreme.
Then Lord Vishnu said that we are not supreme. Supreme is someone else. Brahmaji asked "Who?" Vishnu bhagvan told him that, that who is supreme has his lok above ours. Brahmaji asked him, "Who is that?" So Vishnu bhagvan said to him that "Come, let me take you for his darshan."
Vishnu, Brahma, Mahesha have flown from their Lok. After reaching very high, they saw that on this particular Lotus plant, there is a very beautiful Lok based. Brahmaji asked bhagvan Vishnu that "Which Lok is this?" He told, its
GOLOK.
All three of them entered GolokDham. Upon entering they saw that there is a very beautiful river called Virja on which MANY BRAHMAN(planets) are floating in and out. Brahmaji asked Vishnu bhagvan as to what this is?
Vishnu bhagvan told him that the kind of Brahman we live in, all these are similar to that. He further told that "Today is a very special since the "
karta-karya" and the one who rules all these and our brahman has come here." Ahead Bhagvan Vishnu has taken Brahma-Mahesha in a big Rajsabha. As they have entered, they got shocked.
Because MANY Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha were standing there.
Brahmaji asked Vishnu Bhagvan about "Who all these ppl are who look just like us?"
Vishnu bhagvan said:-- All these are Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha. Each Brahman has its own one Brahma, Vishnu, Mahehsa who are given their posts by Bhagvan Sri Krishna. All of us Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha are his Sevak and as he orders, that way we speculate and rule our own Brahmans.


Thanks angel, i remember reading ur this post in KHMK forum😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
#13
hehe! I remember u tooo....I think we both keep reading each other but hvent ever talked properly! Some connection na =) And I think u post fantabolousss stuff. Just the other day I was reading about the 27 types of Narga etc. and I write everythingg in my laptop in my notepads and I wanted to write that also but theres just so much writting and thanks to uuu I got it. Thanks alot Rajnish! :)
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sita11

& do clear out the confusion abt many brahmas,vishu & mahesh in every universe 😕😊


OK sita di, i will try to explain all these 😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

😊😊
Garg Samhita:--
I am sorry I am not able to post the skand and shloka since my scriptures arent with me right now. If u wud like to know the whole shloka and everything then u can reply here and I ll write that as well. I am just giving in brief here since I get limited time for my net. Its here where we get know there are many Lord Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha 😳
Once Brahmaji in his heart got this thought that he is supreme. He himself along with Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesha are supreme. He went to Vishnu bhagvan and said the same to him that all three of us are supreme.
Then Lord Vishnu said that we are not supreme. Supreme is someone else. Brahmaji asked "Who?" Vishnu bhagvan told him that, that who is supreme has his lok above ours. Brahmaji asked him, "Who is that?" So Vishnu bhagvan said to him that "Come, let me take you for his darshan."
Vishnu, Brahma, Mahesha have flown from their Lok. After reaching very high, they saw that on this particular Lotus plant, there is a very beautiful Lok based. Brahmaji asked bhagvan Vishnu that "Which Lok is this?" He told, its
GOLOK.
All three of them entered GolokDham. Upon entering they saw that there is a very beautiful river called Virja on which MANY BRAHMAN(planets) are floating in and out. Brahmaji asked Vishnu bhagvan as to what this is?
Vishnu bhagvan told him that the kind of Brahman we live in, all these are similar to that. He further told that "Today is a very special since the "
karta-karya" and the one who rules all these and our brahman has come here." Ahead Bhagvan Vishnu has taken Brahma-Mahesha in a big Rajsabha. As they have entered, they got shocked.
Because MANY Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha were standing there.
Brahmaji asked Vishnu Bhagvan about "Who all these ppl are who look just like us?"
Vishnu bhagvan said:-- All these are Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha. Each Brahman has its own one Brahma, Vishnu, Mahehsa who are given their posts by Bhagvan Sri Krishna. All of us Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha are his Sevak and as he orders, that way we speculate and rule our own Brahmans.

angelz it will b great if u explain all this in a simple way without the difficult shlokas
thanks for the simple & great explanation
wud love to read simple explanations just like the way u hv posted this one
thanks for this story !!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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First we need to understand the meaning of word avtara. When the Lord manifests Himself in the material world, the form which He displays is called "avatara", or "descent", that which descends from the world beyond. These avataras are classified under several categories in accordance with Their purpose. These are
(1) Lila-avatara (pastime descents),(2) Purusa-avatara (descent for creation),(3) Guna-avatara (descents for controlling the modes of nature),(4) Saktyavesa-avatara (descents endowed with potency),(5) Manvantara-avatara (descents for the era of Manu) and (6) Yuga-avatara (descents for the age)
I will not go in detail of all of these form of avtara but here i will write only about Purusha-avtara. In according to this there are three form of Lord particularly meant for the maintenance of the cosmic manifestation. They are (1) Karanodakasayi Vishnu who manifests all the universes, (2) Garbhodakasayi Vishnu who presides in each universe, and (3) Ksirodakasayi Vishnu, who presides in the hearts of all living entities, and is also known as the Paramatma. All these three form is menisfestation of sri Krishna.
Sri Krishna is the origin of the purusa-avatara is described in the following prayer of Lord Brahma (Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.14.14):

"O Lord Krihsna, Narayana refers to one whose abode is in the

water born from Nara (Garbhodakasayi Visnu) and that Narayana is Your plenary portion."

The word Narayana is also explained in these words:

"Manifested from Lord Garbhodakasayi Vishnu (Nara), the inert material elements are called 'nara'. Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the ultimate resting place (ayana) of these material elements (nara), He is known as Narayana." These words, then, mean "O Lord, Narayana is a portion of Your body." That Sri Krishna is the origin of the purusa-avatara, a portion of whom creates, maintains and destroys the universes is also confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (10.42), where Lord Krishna declares:

"With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe."

So following paragraph gives us picture of Sri krishna as being supreame and Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, Karanodakasayi Vishnu and Ksirodakasayi Vishnu is manifestation of him. Sri krishna resides eternally in Golok which is above all lokas. below which is Causal Ocean (karana-jala) where mahavishnu or Karanodakshayi and Karanavasayi Vishnu lies down. Tens and tens of mlllions of universes are generated from the pores of Maha-Visnu. These floating universes are scattered all over the Causal Ocean.In each and every universal globe the same Maha-Visnu enters again as Garbodhakasayi Visnu and lies there on the Garbha Ocean on the serpentine Sesa incarnation with lakshmi. Maha vishnu further expands Himself as Ksirodakasayi Visnu, and enters everything--even into the minute atom.

So each universe has Garbodhak ocean which is insides each universe is at the bottom of universe and Garbhodakshayi Vishnu who resides there is also called Lord Laghu Virat who lives there on Sheshnag and with Laxmi.

Beside there is Ksheer Sagar (ocean of milk) where Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu lives with Laxmi on Shesh Nag. When gods go to pray to Him, then they do so from the shore of the ocean or from an island called Shvet Dvip inside this ocean. Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu comes out of the ocean on hearing their prayers.

Like wise each Universe has his own Brahma and Mahesh. According to the Guna-avatara of sri krishna (descents for controlling the modes of nature): There are three forms of the Lord meant for controlling each of the three modes of nature, namely goodness, passion and ignorance. (1) Brahma, who is generally an empowered living entity, is in charge of the mode of passion, and takes care of creation. (2) Vishnu is in charge of the mode of goodness, and takes care of maintenance. (3) Shiva, who is a transformed form of the Lord, is in charge of the mode of ignorance, and takes care of destruction. each universe has its own brahma vishnu (Garbhodakshayi) and shiva.



Edited by Rajnish_Kumar - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

hehe! I remember u tooo....I think we both keep reading each other but hvent ever talked properly! Some connection na =) And I think u post fantabolousss stuff. Just the other day I was reading about the 27 types of Narga etc. and I write everythingg in my laptop in my notepads and I wanted to write that also but theres just so much writting and thanks to uuu I got it. Thanks alot Rajnish! :)


:) thanks a lot, yeah i read ur post in ramayan and KHMK forum but i was inactive both the time so din't replied.😊
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Posted: 16 years ago
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thanks rajnish for all the infos
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Thanks rajnish and angel for these info.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rajnish_Kumar

First we need to understand the meaning of word avtara. When the Lord manifests Himself in the material world, the form which He displays is called "avatara", or "descent", that which descends from the world beyond. These avataras are classified under several categories in accordance with Their purpose. These are
(1) Lila-avatara (pastime descents),(2) Purusa-avatara (descent for creation),(3) Guna-avatara (descents for controlling the modes of nature),(4) Saktyavesa-avatara (descents endowed with potency),(5) Manvantara-avatara (descents for the era of Manu) and (6) Yuga-avatara (descents for the age)
I will not go in detail of all of these form of avtara but here i will write only about Purusha-avtara. In according to this there are three form of Lord particularly meant for the maintenance of the cosmic manifestation. They are (1) Karanodakasayi Vishnu who manifests all the universes, (2) Garbhodakasayi Vishnu who presides in each universe, and (3) Ksirodakasayi Vishnu, who presides in the hearts of all living entities, and is also known as the Paramatma. All these three form is menisfestation of sri Krishna.
Sri Krishna is the origin of the purusa-avatara is described in the following prayer of Lord Brahma (Srimad-Bhagavatam 10.14.14):

"O Lord Krihsna, Narayana refers to one whose abode is in the

water born from Nara (Garbhodakasayi Visnu) and that Narayana is Your plenary portion."

The word Narayana is also explained in these words:

"Manifested from Lord Garbhodakasayi Vishnu (Nara), the inert material elements are called 'nara'. Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead is the ultimate resting place (ayana) of these material elements (nara), He is known as Narayana." These words, then, mean "O Lord, Narayana is a portion of Your body." That Sri Krishna is the origin of the purusa-avatara, a portion of whom creates, maintains and destroys the universes is also confirmed in Bhagavad-gita (10.42), where Lord Krishna declares:

"With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe."

So following paragraph gives us picture of Sri krishna as being supreame and Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, Karanodakasayi Vishnu and Ksirodakasayi Vishnu is manifestation of him. Sri krishna resides eternally in Golok which is above all lokas. below which is Causal Ocean (karana-jala) where mahavishnu or Karanodakshayi and Karanavasayi Vishnu lies down. Tens and tens of mlllions of universes are generated from the pores of Maha-Visnu. These floating universes are scattered all over the Causal Ocean.In each and every universal globe the same Maha-Visnu enters again as Garbodhakasayi Visnu and lies there on the Garbha Ocean on the serpentine Sesa incarnation with lakshmi. Maha vishnu further expands Himself as Ksirodakasayi Visnu, and enters everything--even into the minute atom.

So each universe has Garbodhak ocean which is insides each universe is at the bottom of universe and Garbhodakshayi Vishnu who resides there is also called Lord Laghu Virat who lives there on Sheshnag and with Laxmi.

Beside there is Ksheer Sagar (ocean of milk) where Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu lives with Laxmi on Shesh Nag. When gods go to pray to Him, then they do so from the shore of the ocean or from an island called Shvet Dvip inside this ocean. Lord Kshirodakshayi Vishnu comes out of the ocean on hearing their prayers.

Like wise each Universe has his own Brahma and Mahesh. According to the Guna-avatara of sri krishna (descents for controlling the modes of nature): There are three forms of the Lord meant for controlling each of the three modes of nature, namely goodness, passion and ignorance. (1) Brahma, who is generally an empowered living entity, is in charge of the mode of passion, and takes care of creation. (2) Vishnu is in charge of the mode of goodness, and takes care of maintenance. (3) Shiva, who is a transformed form of the Lord, is in charge of the mode of ignorance, and takes care of destruction. each universe has its own brahma vishnu (Garbhodakshayi) and shiva.



thanks rajnish for informing abt the different form of avatras
BRAHMAJI defined LORD NARAYAN so beautifully
i hv gone thru half of this para
i will comment later after reading this whole para
very beautiful description !!!!
Edited by sita11 - 16 years ago

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