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Posted: 10 years ago
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they are showing ragini as self centered, selfish and a big egoistic, she is the person who doesnot listen to anyone but wants everyone to listen to her, she wanted agam to leave neil and choose her but arav wanted to leave her ,
Today she was not hurt that arav spoke to her rudly but she was more hurt that he chose to stay with his father instead of her .

I think what neil said yesterday was right she is not a good mother or a good wife she is a stubborn women. who is not ready to compromise for anyone even if her loved ones are hurt and suffering because of her ego.

No mother would hurt her son the way she did to agam that too on his birthday, whatever reason she might give it is not acceptable, she badly hurt one son and spoiled his birthday and she is arranging surprise party for another son, what kind of a mom does that. she is a selfish mom

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Her upbringing of her children itself speak volume. Nishi and Aarav are both selfish, egoistic and rude. Its their way or the highway. If it makes you wonder where they got it from, then the answer is RAGINI. I used to sympathise with her, but the makers are killing her character. Her nonsense does not make her a strong woman, but instead it depicts her as a wuss. She ought to focus on her own upbringing and see what her idiotic move of dividing the children did.

She keeps saying her son does not want to live with her hence why she was upset. But what about what she did? Not wanting to live with her other two kids? The manner in which she had spoken to Agam was the seal of the deal for me to stop empathisizing with her. You said so correctly, and she did not feel bad about it either, because if she did she would not have arranged a birthday surprise for the other one nor would she have attended Karan's address knowing Agam was celebrating his birthday there to collect her so called son.

Aarav gave Ragini a taste of her own medecine. I might dislike his behaviour, but it was a lesson well taught to Ragini who cannot see beyond her own ego.



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Posted: 10 years ago
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But well then, Aarav did come back on his own. I was expecting that he would get some gyaan from Neil but thankfully that didn't happen. Aarav came back to his senses and realised that he was wrong in what he did and for hurting his Mother.

Yes, Ragini is at fault for her ego issues. There must have been issues with both Neil and Ragini which led to the separation - we are yet to know the real reasons. It seems like it would take some more time for the past to come in front of us.

Neil had not spared Ragini when he came back, so where's the point of Ragini believing that he loves her madly to let go off all issues?

Further, when kids are angry, it is okay for then to say anything and do anything. But for a Mother, the same thing cannot work out, right? Suhani was quick to point out to Aagam that their Mother might have had some reason for being harsh. Oh I forgot, Neil's manhandling does not count. He is free to do anything - taunt others, ridicule others, laugh at others, be unprofessional etc. but yes all those things cannot work for a woman.

Ragini have had much more difficult time raising up the kids. But well then, the divorce was not surely of her own making.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I dont agree...Ragini is a single mother with tough exterior...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Poetic, sorry dont know your name!

Originally posted by: poetic

Further, when kids are angry, it is okay for then to say anything and do anything. But for a Mother, the same thing cannot work out, right? She had no right to speak to Agam like that. She emotionally ruined him that too on a day when it was meant to be his happiest. Yes Neil was at fault here for making her do what she did, but Ragini is not a baby. She opted to behave in such a despicable manner. For me, a mother who has carried their child for 9 months would rather have their neck chopped than retaliate in such manner. She was the one who wanted the division of the kids in the first place. She even said, I picked the wrong kid, today. What does she mean? Has she no shame? Kids have no rights to BS to their parents no matter what their mental state is at the time, but equally parents too should not BS to their children in the name of I will show my ex husband..blah... Both of these idiotic parents are insecure that their chosen children will end up with the other...and that is just causing severe frustrations to me as a viewer.Being a single parent does not give any parents the right to emotionally ruin a child. This show is meant to be depicting this.


Oh I forgot, Neil's manhandling does not count. He is free to do anything - taunt others, ridicule others, laugh at others, be unprofessional etc. but yes all those things cannot work for a woman.@bold, I do never praised his idiotic behavior nor ever will. I am not a regular on this forum, but Neil was bashed (thats right) left right and centre for that disgusting behavior of his by myself. He is a wuss, he attacks from the back. He never had the guts to stand up to his sister and for him evil is portrayed in a better light than good things. So what can one do?

The funny thing here though is, he did not bring up Agam and Suhani, he only provided them with wealth which was never good enough for them and rightly so. And I guess that taught them the true essence of wanting to be nurtured by their parents, particularly their mother. But the point am trying to make here is, Agam and Suhani turned out fantastically well despite having only venoms around them. How and why? Ragini thinks she showers nothing but good upbringings everywhere she goes, then what went wrong with her children?





Originally posted by: poetic


Ragini have had much more difficult time raising up the kids. But well then, the divorce was not surely of her own making.

Do not get me wrong, both Neil and Ragini are equally at fault when it comes to their separation and the way their kids have turned out. And also its wrong for them to be playing ping pong with those children's lives. It is an EQUAL BLAME. I do not play the am going to drool on the male and bash the female card. I never have done nor intend to do so in the future. I reacted accordingly with what is being shown.

Ragini taunted Neil saying her upbringing is brilliant hence why her son Aarav will always pick her over money, but we know that is a lie. She knows it is a lie too because she saw how he had reacted earlier. But she takes the am blind path. I do not like that.

Neil never emotionally connected with his children, and for me that is one of the traits of a failure of a parent.




@Poetic, apologies for jumping in if your comment was meant for the TM solely.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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No issues -innocent- Do not know your name either 😃 I guess we are all allowed to voice our opinions anywhere.
See from what I see, the CVs are simply not capable of handling multiple character development at the same time. Hence, as part of the story, they will once show Neil as mahaan and once Ragini as mahaan. This is my personal open ion totally.

Generally, any couple will separate and get divorced for a whole lot of reasons. What these two found unbearable, we will only come to know subsequently. But yes, as individuals they have countless faults. But again, both of them will have some inherent and intrinsic qualities, which is deep seated in each other's subs consciousness. probably thats why they have not moved on.

Agree, they should make Ragini a bit more flexible - I was a bit concerned today when I was realising that it seems that she might not know Nachiket well enough to know that maybe he wouldn't be celebrating her failure (of what?) Or maybe bitter experiences have made her bitter?

As for being blind to the weaknesses of one's children, maybe its intrinsic fear of losing a loved one again, and rather believing that the worst is not gonna happen.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic



Neil had not spared Ragini when he came back, so where's the point of Ragini believing that he loves her madly to let go off all issues?

Further, when kids are angry, it is okay for then to say anything and do anything. But for a Mother, the same thing cannot work out, right? Suhani was quick to point out to Aagam that their Mother might have had some reason for being harsh. Oh I forgot, Neil's manhandling does not count. He is free to do anything - taunt others, ridicule others, laugh at others, be unprofessional etc. but yes all those things cannot work for a woman.


Exactly!

Her heartbreak made her a different kind of person.. perhaps a person who has a difficult time separating self-esteem from ego.. but they are both flawed.. that's the beautiful part 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic



Agree, they should make Ragini a bit more flexible - I was a bit concerned today when I was realising that it seems that she might not know Nachiket well enough to know that maybe he wouldn't be celebrating her failure (of what?) Or maybe bitter experiences have made her bitter?


Same here..

Even I am concerned she has misunderstood him so much while he still seems to understand her completely and know exactly where she's coming from - so much so that her unreasonable behaviour in the kitchen and giving up in front of Aarav just threw him off balance..

Ragini is blinded by hate!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic

No issues -innocent- Do not know your name either 😃 I guess we are all allowed to voice our opinions anywhere. True true, but some tend to get itchy witchy nah..am always up for a good discussion.

See from what I see, the CVs are simply not capable of handling multiple character development at the same time. Thats a good point and sadly this quick intro of Nivedita and her influence on Neil is going to come and bite us harder very soon. Hence, as part of the story, they will once show Neil as mahaan and once Ragini as mahaan. This is my personal open ion totally.

Generally, any couple will separate and get divorced for a whole lot of reasons. What these two found unbearable, we will only come to know subsequently. But yes, as individuals they have countless faults. But again, both of them will have some inherent and intrinsic qualities, which is deep seated in each other's subs consciousness. probably thats why they have not moved on.

Agree, they should make Ragini a bit more flexible - I was a bit concerned today when I was realising that it seems that she might not know Nachiket well enough to know that maybe he wouldn't be celebrating her failure (of what?) Or maybe bitter experiences have made her bitter?

As for being blind to the weaknesses of one's children, maybe its intrinsic fear of losing a loved one again, and rather believing that the worst is not gonna happen.

I watched the episode, just now! Ufff my ears are in pain...only pain relief was when he told her to get out of the room.

But the beauty of this show is the fact that neither of them are mahaan nor are portrayed that way. Neil hurts her big time and its all because he thinks she has moved on in her life...And Ragini too pinches him where nobody ever can. Like you reiterated both have flaws. But I want the makers to explore those flaws with due care and attention. I know I shouldn't but Neil and Ragini frustrates the crap out of me sometimes.😆

@Bold, both still love each other very much...and that exact love is clouding their judgement to the point where they both think the other has to be dancing on their grievances. Both do it. For example the point you noted from Ragini and secondly the point Neil made today...he said, shayad Nivedita can give me all those happiness that Ragini could not...* thats BS we know it...Both clearly jumped in their marriage and became baby producing machines, and forgot to love and understand each other with time, and thats where they failed, I think.


...I just dislike the whole mere baache, tere baache as if they are ping pongs. Wasnt this show advertised as a couple can divorce but their love for their children would remain the same or something? Toh phir woh kaha gaya...thats my thoughts in all honesty, which no one but Ekta Maiya can answer.


Like I said I have just watched the episode, I guess Aarav is like his father. In anger he chats loads of nonsense, but soon enough regrets it. Like Neil does.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: poetic

No issues -innocent- Do not know your name either 😃 I guess we are all allowed to voice our opinions anywhere.

See from what I see, the CVs are simply not capable of handling multiple character development at the same time. Hence, as part of the story, they will once show Neil as mahaan and once Ragini as mahaan. This is my personal open ion totally.

Generally, any couple will separate and get divorced for a whole lot of reasons. What these two found unbearable, we will only come to know subsequently. But yes, as individuals they have countless faults. But again, both of them will have some inherent and intrinsic qualities, which is deep seated in each other's subs consciousness. probably thats why they have not moved on.

Agree, they should make Ragini a bit more flexible - I was a bit concerned today when I was realising that it seems that she might not know Nachiket well enough to know that maybe he wouldn't be celebrating her failure (of what?) Or maybe bitter experiences have made her bitter?

As for being blind to the weaknesses of one's children, maybe its intrinsic fear of losing a loved one again, and rather believing that the worst is not gonna happen.


fear of losing the loved ones, mothers don't differeciate love b/w the kids, for the fear of losing arav she cannot hurt agam, so she is ok to lose agam but not ok to lose arav what kind of a mother does that, i am a mother of 2 kids i would rather kill myself before hurting my son to satisfy some stupid deal.

tomorrow if neil comes and blackmail her to kill agam orelse he will take arav with him, will she kill agam

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