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Posted: 11 years ago

Credit Sohara
4:15 AM Couldn't sleep, so I got up and went inside the living room not to disturb John. Put on my television to my DVR and watched IPK the 5/31 episode. That's the one with the hut scene, Khushi finds Arnav finally. So beautifully done. Moved me to see him so vulnerable and letting his guard down to finally show Khushi how he feels about her even to the point of almost consummating their so called marriage.
I also was surfing our thread and watched all the amazing VM's especially the ones where the rituals and customs of the Raizada family are carried out. ASR carrying in Khushi, great video by Telly Tadka. Their expressions were so intense. You can see his hatred and resentment for her so clearly in Barun's eyes. He is a brilliant actor. Kudos for Sanaya as well, noone portrays those sad hurt eyes like she does.
And then the sun came up.
Sunrise, such a gift from the Divine. I walked outside to see and felt so blessed. Another day. What a blessing! Another day of IPK reminicing.
I chuckled a bit, thinking all I really think about in my crazy world is about IPK, this thread and all of you. I truly think I am out of my mind. Love you all!
Edited by cinthiann1758 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

I made this post in the main forum... Thought of sharing it with you all 😊 Just a break from the intense love marriage track...



What an amazing scene it is!!! So emotional!!!

Finally Arnav breaks the ice & initiates the convo... Has he ever shared his feelings like this with anyone before??? NO... He opened his heart only to Khushi... He asked her, 'kya m-meri maa mujhe dekhar khush hai???'... He indirectly asked Khushi's opinion upon him, 'Am I a good guy???'... What an intense scene!!!
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Wait my post is not about that...





This is how (bg) it looks from the window opposite to the pool, right???😕
How come Arshi see Stars?

'baat sach ya joot ki nahin hai, baat viswas ki hai'... So I believe that it was not the living room that moment & the stars were twinkling in the sky ⭐️ Ok with that, go & quickly watch this scene again 😊

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW2LeZEOsjQ

Cool⭐️ No CHAPPALS, NO & NO ANDA plz 😳

Hats off to Barun & Sanaya for conveying these expressions brilliantly👏👏👏 They don't need any object or character around to act... They can convey any emotion brilliantly... I love their brilliant acting...


I agree! I can't receive the video here in the states. 😭
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: cinthiann1758


I agree! I can't receive the video here in the states. 😭



Hope dailymotion works 😊

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xz8ikt_iss-pyar-ko-kya-naam-doon-episode-122_shortfilms
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Posted: 11 years ago

Yes it did! but of course I don't understand but I knew the story line. What was so amazing was their acting ability.
The first part was so funny. He wants to say something to her but is bound by his oath of not speaking to her. Love the pissed off slam of the wall and Khushi's grin hysterical!
I love the fact that Arnav drops the deal and trusts Khushi after seeing his mother's bangles and hearing her written letter about him and actually needs Khushi's opinion of whether his mother would approve of him now. He needs Khushi's approval too. That last are you okay Khushi asks just did me in. Her concern for him too deep. Just love this epi! TFS
Edited by cinthiann1758 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@indi186
Agree too many unresolved issues. Writers shamelessly abused K's character to create the mega drama for the mega twist in mega comfort.
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Posted: 11 years ago
@issk, @wiwi

I have no words, how you keep pouring this poetic brilliance. Each verse, word so apt. Loved the contrasting endings that speak the same. Hmm, you may not want to be free again, bind me in your shackles and I will set you free. Bravo!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52

episode 186
a little note



the episode made me think a lot... it was funny how things piled up on one another and a certain picture of the so called "truth" emerged which the viewer knew was not true at all, yet in the mental and emotional state asr was in he just couldn't sense the lie in it.

right through teh rest of ipk, we all expected that at some point there'd be a huge reveal of shyam's lying... but that never happened. instead a feeling spoke its truth and the man said, i don't care, i believe in khushi... no matter what.

no doubt, in the beginning the writers had envisaged the usual revelation, otherwise they wouldn't have wasted time showing nk filming everything, especially shyam, at awkward telling moments.

but by dumping that route, i felt something more interesting got conveyed.. at least to me. this whole thing of what is "truth" and also how does an emotion sense truth.

long back in communications class we'd studied the famous japanese auteur akira kurosawa's "rashomon". the story was his take in a way on what is truth, is there an absolute truth, or does it always get coloured by the narrator's self interest, he/she a fllter through which truth passes and gets altered.

i can't say i studied the film deeply, but that whole thing of four people narrating the facts visible according to their own needs and personalities was most interesting. kurosawa never did that easy thing of ending on a version that was supposedly the actual truth. it was left to us to surmise. even the one most likely to be truthful played a little mischief, but the ending had a sign of hope, which was kind of nice.

watching shyam creating a truth out of asr's misconception that khushi was part of the deception was really interesting. it was engineered cleverly... no loopholes really. by the end of the spinning of yarn, asr was completely convinced khushi loved shyam and was athreat to his sister.

perhaps in this perception of truth was his personal filter. the one of insecurity, of suspicion, sown at a tender age by a philandering father and the tragedy that brought. he was indeed too easy to convince. that worked for shyam.

later too, when khushi presented her version, i thought she was not being as honest as she should. she had the filter of mahanta... i didn't tell you about all these terrible things that shyam did, only to save your sister. really? was that a good enough reason, i thought... what would have come undone if you had told asr that his sister was married to a cheat? wasn't it only right to do so? and where was the astuteness or decency even in letting a loving honest woman remain married to a lout?

then therew as asr's "chhap gaya hai dimaag mein."

in teh end teh truth was whatever it was, but two people's love made its way through the minefield of deceit and found each other. only to say, it needs nothing else.

i wonder, if khushi actually been in love with shyam at some point, what would have happened to thsi story... ok ok, do not kill me, but i do wonder a lot about love and what it can or cannot do.

the other major thing from the episode that sticks in teh mind is the unreal response of khsuhi.

started in 185, thsi strange response to a lascivious, clearly out of line, abhorrent lech who has dared to touch her.

her first "chhoriye humey," so calm... post that and pre that ;lots of talk about all sorts of things, why? shouldn't she have started running away from the terrace much earlier? i would. and what she said after many things... tehfact that had he been unmarried also she wouldn't have given a damn... shouldn't that ahve been said before?

why all that about, the man who couldn't love a devi like anhjali ji, how would he l;ove someone.

one good thing, she finally realised, anjali needed to be told...again, no pondering the issue, no understanding that keeping quiet teh first tiem was not correct.

and after all that, she doesn't feel the need to rush to a place of comfort... amma or asr. instead she is walking around looking lost, being "good" and hiding her troubles with jiji...

only thinks of asr when payal mentions kash and needing him. even then, no frantic urgency.

she has just been embraced and harrassed by a creep. he has said unspeakable things to her. he even hinted he wouldn't want to hurt her twice (she never asked what was the first time). yet she is just a little perturbed, not going bananas.

i know how i'd react if that happened.

the problem is i guess khushi was written by a man/bunch of men, who never quite understood women... certainly not khushi. and khushi was never conceived as a character on her own... always vis a vis asr. she was manipulated at will to reveal asr's inner self... rarely was she given equal status. she served a purpose. that's all.

story of our lives in a world that is intrinsically patriarchal. a really interesting woman cannot be conceived, created and nurtured here.

of course, the acting by barun was superb once again.

main dekh chika hoon... main sun chuka hoon. a shattered, man, trying to bring order back. then the devil goes into his terrible dance... khushi ji hamari... whatever.

i'll be back to chat about it a bit and alos put in some edits. see ya.😳




Indi🤗

I am so happy and actually waiting for you to see and feel the same what I was before reaching to 187,honestly and I so agreed with @viv
to make myself calm .There will be and are loop holes in this story
and we can focus on those which make sense.

Khushi's unnatural act in these two epis 185 and 186 is unbearable for some reason and as you said it was written by a MAN who never can reach to the emotions of a woman.

But here is my question,TV and media has so much to deliver to grasp these emotions ,especially if you see Hollywood some serious outstanding movies ,even though written by a man but research of a character through many lenses brings some brilliant pieces and these are professional ppl not just simple writers then how come they slip through these .They did excellent or not or it was just BARUN who pulled off ASR character all the way very end...Khushi was ruined ...I don't know purposely or what but it really hurt me while I was watching.

You will be surprised I am stuck on this and can't move on as I always see through different angle, so was trying to understand why, or may be there is a reason for that, or whatever but i didn't get anything.

Thnx Indi for sharing this, making me feel better😊

Edited by ArshiHamesha - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Arshidiehardfan

<div align="center"><font color="#6600FF" face="Comic Sans MS, Times, serif" size="2">I made this post in the main forum... Thought of sharing it with you all 😊 Just a break from the intense love marriage track...





What an amazing scene it is!!! So emotional!!!



Finally Arnav breaks the ice & initiates the convo... Has he ever
shared his feelings like this with anyone before??? NO... He opened his
heart only to Khushi... He asked her, <font color="#FF0066">'kya m-meri maa mujhe dekhar khush hai???'</font>... He indirectly asked Khushi's opinion upon him, 'Am I a good guy???'... What an intense scene!!!

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Wait my post is not about that...











This is how (bg) it looks from the window opposite to the pool, right???😕

How come Arshi see Stars?



<font color="#FF0066">'baat sach ya joot ki nahin hai, baat viswas ki hai'... </font>So I believe that it was not the living room that moment & the stars were twinkling in the sky ⭐️ Ok with that, go & quickly watch this scene again😊



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW2LeZEOsjQ



Cool⭐️
No CHAPPALS, NO

& NO ANDA plz 😳



Hats off to Barun & Sanaya for conveying these expressions brilliantly👏👏👏
They don't need any object or character around to act... They can
convey any emotion brilliantly... I love their brilliant acting...

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All I see is a distracting back musculature.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chalhov

Khushi's raising eyebrows😉



@Chalhov: Ha ha this is amazing 😆 You should share it in the main forum di... And Kat said beautifully the scene raised our acidity😳

Originally posted by: chalhov

Arshi hidden feelings Ek duje ke vaste(for each other)



Very nice 👏



I don't like men with beard But Barun is an exception😳 Another nice edit👏 tfs di...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

Omg, I'm dead after seeing this pic.

Uff my man is looking so cute and hot.
Barun is looking so fresh and young. I'm faintwa and deadwa to see my hotwa.



Superb pic... Don't know if it is a new one or an old one... But just look at his hair, his eyes, his smile & his style 🤢 I have not seen Barun (not ASR) in black shirts... He really looks good in every color😳

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